Topic: Chicago: 5 Dead, 18 Wounded In Weekend Violence
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Mon 05/20/13 07:05 PM
No I will not fire them damit now stop shooting people crazyyy Fxxxers

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Thu 05/23/13 03:37 PM

Did it ever occur to anyone that the gun laws have been implemented in an effort to limit violence in a city with a long history of it? If so, how can the efficiency of the legislation be determined? To claim the city still has gun violence, therefore gun control doesn't work is somewhat partisan to say the least. Indeed the NRA's propaganda on Chicago is a perfect example of a 'false equivalence'.



Well it that were true, then what have we learned? We have learned that their 'efforts' failed and that gun control only made it worse.

The city not only still has gun violence, Chicago has more gun violence than all other cities. Facts are facts. Gun control and the police state situation in Chicago DOES NOT LIMIT AND HAS NO LIMITED GUN VIOLENCE.

Chicago has a history of violence, yes. Did gun control solve the problem? NO.




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Thu 05/23/13 03:37 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 05/23/13 03:38 PM

Did it ever occur to anyone that the gun laws have been implemented in an effort to limit violence in a city with a long history of it? If so, how can the efficiency of the legislation be determined? To claim the city still has gun violence, therefore gun control doesn't work is somewhat partisan to say the least. Indeed the NRA's propaganda on Chicago is a perfect example of a 'false equivalence'.



Well if that were true, then what have we learned? We have learned that their 'efforts' failed and that gun control laws only made it worse.

The city not only still has gun violence, Chicago has more gun violence than all other cities. Facts are facts. Gun control and the police state situation in Chicago DOES NOT LIMIT AND HAS NOT LIMITED GUN VIOLENCE.

Chicago has a history of violence, yes. Did gun control laws solve the problem? NO.




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Thu 05/23/13 03:44 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Thu 05/23/13 03:52 PM

Did it ever occur to anyone that the gun laws have been implemented in an effort to limit violence in a city with a long history of it? If so, how can the efficiency of the legislation be determined? To claim the city still has gun violence, therefore gun control doesn't work is somewhat partisan to say the least. Indeed the NRA's propaganda on Chicago is a perfect example of a 'false equivalence'.



Well if that were true, then what have we learned? We have learned that their 'efforts' failed and that gun control laws only made it worse.


The city not only still has gun violence, Chicago has more gun violence than all other cities. Facts are facts. Gun control and the police state situation in Chicago DOES NOT LIMIT AND HAS NOT LIMITED GUN VIOLENCE.

Chicago has a history of violence, yes. Did gun control laws solve the problem? NO.


Missed the point, huh?





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Thu 05/23/13 03:51 PM
If you want to kill someone,or commit a Crime,you'll find a Weapon!
The killing of that Soldier in London proves that!
The Criminals in Chi-Town have never given a Rat's Arse about Weapons-Laws!
The only ones abiding by Laws are the lawabiding Citizens,who in the long run are getting the crappy end of the Stick!
Guncontrol-Laws are good for one thing!
To make the Politician feel good and pretending he is doing something for the People,when in reality he is putting the lives of lawabiding Citizens in danger!

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Thu 05/23/13 04:48 PM


Did it ever occur to anyone that the gun laws have been implemented in an effort to limit violence in a city with a long history of it? If so, how can the efficiency of the legislation be determined? To claim the city still has gun violence, therefore gun control doesn't work is somewhat partisan to say the least. Indeed the NRA's propaganda on Chicago is a perfect example of a 'false equivalence'.



Well if that were true, then what have we learned? We have learned that their 'efforts' failed and that gun control laws only made it worse.

The city not only still has gun violence, Chicago has more gun violence than all other cities. Facts are facts. Gun control and the police state situation in Chicago DOES NOT LIMIT AND HAS NOT LIMITED GUN VIOLENCE.

Chicago has a history of violence, yes. Did gun control laws solve the problem? NO.


Missed the point, huh?



No I didn't miss your point. I ignored it.
You first assume that the laws were implemented "in an effort to limit violence in a city with a long history of it."

That of course was the battle cry of the politicians. It is more likely that the police were tired of being out gunned by the citizens or "criminals." But can anyone be certain that the police are not corrupt an on the take, therefore criminals themselves? No.

The efficiency of the legislation is determined by the failure to solve the problem.

The conclusion is that Gun legislation may not have made the problem worse, but neither did it solve the problem.

It appears to have had little if any effect.





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Thu 05/23/13 05:15 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Thu 05/23/13 05:18 PM



Did it ever occur to anyone that the gun laws have been implemented in an effort to limit violence in a city with a long history of it? If so, how can the efficiency of the legislation be determined? To claim the city still has gun violence, therefore gun control doesn't work is somewhat partisan to say the least. Indeed the NRA's propaganda on Chicago is a perfect example of a 'false equivalence'.



Well if that were true, then what have we learned? We have learned that their 'efforts' failed and that gun control laws only made it worse.

The city not only still has gun violence, Chicago has more gun violence than all other cities. Facts are facts. Gun control and the police state situation in Chicago DOES NOT LIMIT AND HAS NOT LIMITED GUN VIOLENCE.

Chicago has a history of violence, yes. Did gun control laws solve the problem? NO.


Missed the point, huh?



No I didn't miss your point. I ignored it.
You first assume that the laws were implemented "in an effort to limit violence in a city with a long history of it."

That of course was the battle cry of the politicians. It is more likely that the police were tired of being out gunned by the citizens or "criminals." But can anyone be certain that the police are not corrupt an on the take, therefore criminals themselves? No.

The efficiency of the legislation is determined by the failure to solve the problem.

The conclusion is that Gun legislation may not have made the problem worse, but neither did it solve the problem.

It appears to have had little if any effect.



Double post.

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Thu 05/23/13 05:18 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Thu 05/23/13 05:28 PM



Did it ever occur to anyone that the gun laws have been implemented in an effort to limit violence in a city with a long history of it? If so, how can the efficiency of the legislation be determined? To claim the city still has gun violence, therefore gun control doesn't work is somewhat partisan to say the least. Indeed the NRA's propaganda on Chicago is a perfect example of a 'false equivalence'.



Well if that were true, then what have we learned? We have learned that their 'efforts' failed and that gun control laws only made it worse.

The city not only still has gun violence, Chicago has more gun violence than all other cities. Facts are facts. Gun control and the police state situation in Chicago DOES NOT LIMIT AND HAS NOT LIMITED GUN VIOLENCE.

Chicago has a history of violence, yes. Did gun control laws solve the problem? NO.


Missed the point, huh?



No I didn't miss your point. I ignored it.
You first assume that the laws were implemented "in an effort to limit violence in a city with a long history of it."

That of course was the battle cry of the politicians. It is more likely that the police were tired of being out gunned by the citizens or "criminals." But can anyone be certain that the police are not corrupt an on the take, therefore criminals themselves? No.

The efficiency of the legislation is determined by the failure to solve the problem.

The conclusion is that Gun legislation may not have made the problem worse, but neither did it solve the problem.

It appears to have had little if any effect.



So, in effect, that response indicates that the concept went over your head, got it.



I'd elaborate further, but I'm not that interested.

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Thu 05/23/13 08:29 PM
I'd elaborate further, but I'm not that interested.


If you are not interested in elaborating further, and if you cannot make your point clear, then just stop posting. I am not interested in your extreme nasty rudeness.

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Thu 05/23/13 09:00 PM
Ever wonder what cities like D.C, Chicago, LA, Detroit, Philadelphia all have in common? Gun violence is off the charts in these places whereas states like Arizona for example have lower violent crime rates (excluding the drug cartels and their runners) than these cities and Arizona you can carry open or concealed without needing a stupid permit.

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Fri 05/24/13 03:34 PM

Ever wonder what cities like D.C, Chicago, LA, Detroit, Philadelphia all have in common? Gun violence is off the charts in these places whereas states like Arizona for example have lower violent crime rates (excluding the drug cartels and their runners) than these cities and Arizona you can carry open or concealed without needing a stupid permit.


Maybe its the police who are doing the shooting in these cities.

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Sun 05/26/13 03:48 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 05/26/13 04:05 PM

I'd elaborate further, but I'm not that interested.


If you are not interested in elaborating further, and if you cannot make your point clear, then just stop posting. I am not interested in your extreme nasty rudeness.


And if you respond claiming to ignore my point while ranting irrelevancies, why should I pay you any attention? That's just trolling and I ignore trolls.

slaphead

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Sun 05/26/13 04:29 PM


Did it ever occur to anyone that the gun laws have been implemented in an effort to limit violence in a city with a long history of it? If so, how can the efficiency of the legislation be determined? To claim the city still has gun violence, therefore gun control doesn't work is somewhat partisan to say the least. Indeed the NRA's propaganda on Chicago is a perfect example of a 'false equivalence'.



Well if that were true, then what have we learned? We have learned that their 'efforts' failed and that gun control laws only made it worse.

The city not only still has gun violence, Chicago has more gun violence than all other cities. Facts are facts. Gun control and the police state situation in Chicago DOES NOT LIMIT AND HAS NOT LIMITED GUN VIOLENCE.

Chicago has a history of violence, yes. Did gun control laws solve the problem? NO.






not exactly factual, ,chicago does not have more gun related violence than other cities,,,,,

and people are able to get guns from other areas of illinois with laxer laws, as well as surrounding states,,,

so its never really as siimple as the gun law in a city,,,,

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Sun 05/26/13 04:34 PM



Did it ever occur to anyone that the gun laws have been implemented in an effort to limit violence in a city with a long history of it? If so, how can the efficiency of the legislation be determined? To claim the city still has gun violence, therefore gun control doesn't work is somewhat partisan to say the least. Indeed the NRA's propaganda on Chicago is a perfect example of a 'false equivalence'.



Well if that were true, then what have we learned? We have learned that their 'efforts' failed and that gun control laws only made it worse.

The city not only still has gun violence, Chicago has more gun violence than all other cities. Facts are facts. Gun control and the police state situation in Chicago DOES NOT LIMIT AND HAS NOT LIMITED GUN VIOLENCE.

Chicago has a history of violence, yes. Did gun control laws solve the problem? NO.






not exactly factual, ,chicago does not have more gun related violence than other cities,,,,,

and people are able to get guns from other areas of illinois with laxer laws, as well as surrounding states,,,

so its never really as siimple as the gun law in a city,,,,
OMG,how did you figure this one?

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Sun 05/26/13 04:35 PM
Edited by alleoops on Sun 05/26/13 04:36 PM
so where is Fairycon when his people are killing each other in the streets of Chicago. He has no sympathy or direction for them only hatred for the white one's he calls satins devils.

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Sun 05/26/13 04:38 PM

so where is Fairycon when his people are killing each other in the streets of Chicago. He has no sympathy or direction for them only hatred for the white one's he calls satins devils.



noi members are out in force in plenty of crime ridden cities around this country trying to do peacekeeping and educating,, but Im somehow not convinced that the question was anything but rhetorical,,,,

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Sun 05/26/13 04:41 PM




Did it ever occur to anyone that the gun laws have been implemented in an effort to limit violence in a city with a long history of it? If so, how can the efficiency of the legislation be determined? To claim the city still has gun violence, therefore gun control doesn't work is somewhat partisan to say the least. Indeed the NRA's propaganda on Chicago is a perfect example of a 'false equivalence'.



Well if that were true, then what have we learned? We have learned that their 'efforts' failed and that gun control laws only made it worse.

The city not only still has gun violence, Chicago has more gun violence than all other cities. Facts are facts. Gun control and the police state situation in Chicago DOES NOT LIMIT AND HAS NOT LIMITED GUN VIOLENCE.

Chicago has a history of violence, yes. Did gun control laws solve the problem? NO.






not exactly factual, ,chicago does not have more gun related violence than other cities,,,,,

and people are able to get guns from other areas of illinois with laxer laws, as well as surrounding states,,,

so its never really as siimple as the gun law in a city,,,,
OMG,how did you figure this one?



its not hard to do , just look it up,,,,

here is a link Im providing at random,, many more available on your favorite search engine


http://www.takepart.com/photos/gun-homicides#

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Sun 05/26/13 04:43 PM
rhetorical or not, he has been and is not a figure that has helped his community in the past or in the future. He speaks only hate and does nothing to help his "brothers".

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Sun 05/26/13 04:45 PM

rhetorical or not, he has been and is not a figure that has helped his community in the past or in the future. He speaks only hate and does nothing to help his "brothers".


how do you know this? have you checked his schedule or his travel agenda? been in on his phone calls? traveled or spoken to noi members in different cities?



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Sun 05/26/13 04:55 PM
Edited by alleoops on Sun 05/26/13 04:56 PM


rhetorical or not, he has been and is not a figure that has helped his community in the past or in the future. He speaks only hate and does nothing to help his "brothers".


how do you know this? have you checked his schedule or his travel agenda? been in on his phone calls? traveled or spoken to noi members in different cities?


Proof is in the puddin baby. Blacks keep killing blacks.
Show me how he has helped ??