you dont ''believe'' boy has sexual feeling here,YET you are confused about his sexually leaning actions??????

Ok,
I bow out!

Well, I'm 99 percent sure the heat is not only for your daughter. I'm 98 percent sure that your feelings have grown a little in that direction too. May be difficult to admit but there is something coming through your words that say this.

We tell ourselves a lot of things to get us to believe that it's not fire when it really is. If it wasn't the talk would have already happened.

I'm not saying it's a good thing or a bad thing, only that it's a thing and your part of it.

My concern is that nobody (too late) gets bearnt by this flame. Your relationships have already been changed due to this and your looking (to me anyway) like your trying to talk herself into believing one way when it has already gone another.

Lets cut out the booze talk, there's something going on that is making both your daughter and ex feel like there is something going on. Maybe it hasn't gone to the next level, but if they can sense it you can pretty much take it to the bank.

Here's what I recommend. Remove yourself from these posts you have writen and look at them as if you were someone reading this as a third party. What do you think this person writing these posts is saying? I can tell you that I (maybe most of us) are seeing some feelings in the mix. We're not judging those feelings just letting you know we're seeing them. At least I do.

Hope all this works out without some real damage. My thought is to face it head on one way or another and make it right with all involved.

Hi Anilou

Lines of relationships and lines in relationships is what makes or breaks true loyality. One thing he needs for sure is for a man (maybe a friend of yours) to sit him down and tell him that he is and has stepped over one of these lines knowingly or not. You would not have started this thread if this was not the case. Someone needs to help him understand that this is a potential loaded gun. This thing is more black and white than you think.

One thing you need to realize though is that him touching you and kissing you, is just that, and is not him thinking he is touching your daughter.

Keep this in mind, sons don't cop a feel from their mom, unless they have issues. If you and him have this mom
/son relationship and he is doing this with you it is not truly a mom and son relationship. He has issues.

If this statement "I do genuinely love him as a person and a friend and like a son" is true then certainly you should have no problem getting this straightened out.

"hey, I love you like a son, stop touching me that way cause sons don't do that"

Did you like it when he did this? Tell him, that's what friends do.

That's not so hard to say you know. Stop! If I love someone, think of them as a friend and a son, there would be no stopping me from being straight to the point about crossing this line he has.

Want me to call him LOL. Honestly though this is not that tough.

had to edit this at the end cause I said touch instead of tough

see now you got me thinking about touching someone lol

Just remember that you are the adult and he is still in learning mode, teach him.

Now watch we'll be reading about you and him having a famous affair on the news. Great, and they'll put my post up as someone who talked to you about it. Wait, I hear the news team outside the door now.

Sorry, just making light of something I know you can handle without it turning bad. good luck