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Topic: Would You?
4evababy's photo
Fri 05/03/13 09:50 PM
i've been in domestic violence and would not board a plane if i knew there was a violent man on it

PacificStar48's photo
Fri 05/03/13 10:54 PM

Would you want a pilot who was arrested for domestic violence involving a gun to fly the plane you are on? Would you be comfortable if he could carry a fire arm on board?


While I feel sorry for anyone who finds themself in the mess of a domestic situation involveing a gun someone that has poor enough coping skills to be arrested for domestic violence is not someone I want flying my plane until the investigation has been resolved to the affirmative. If that means a piolet has to be grounded then so be it.

Pilots generally are extreamly bright people and should be perceptive enough to avoid or evacuate themselves from a domestic situation or seek the available resources to resove their stress.

That said I think the flying public needs to be more aware of the work related stresses that pilots and their families endure when they are often forced to work dangerous long hours, work ill, call outs with little notice, uncompensated lay overs, extream stress on the job, and the threat of lay offs and marginal accomodations. And the pay is not and benifits are not anywhere close to what they used to be or commiserate to the qualifications and responsibilities required.

FearandLoathing's photo
Sat 05/04/13 12:24 AM

I deactivated my account because the response to this is disturbing. I suppose one has to have a gun pointed to the face to understand the fear.
I am glad you don't know what that feels like.


That is an irrational rationalization.

msharmony's photo
Sat 05/04/13 12:39 AM


I deactivated my account because the response to this is disturbing. I suppose one has to have a gun pointed to the face to understand the fear.
I am glad you don't know what that feels like.


That is an irrational rationalization.



most of us would probably not respond to a disturbing or disagreeable thread by deactivating the account,,,as opposed to choosing a different thread to participate in


but, that being said, I do understand that one might be offended at some of the 'gung ho' 'id prefer someone quick to use a gun in case something were to happen on the plane' responses

you gotta be able to take the good with the bad to be a match for mingle


FearandLoathing's photo
Sat 05/04/13 01:22 AM



I deactivated my account because the response to this is disturbing. I suppose one has to have a gun pointed to the face to understand the fear.
I am glad you don't know what that feels like.


That is an irrational rationalization.



most of us would probably not respond to a disturbing or disagreeable thread by deactivating the account,,,as opposed to choosing a different thread to participate in


but, that being said, I do understand that one might be offended at some of the 'gung ho' 'id prefer someone quick to use a gun in case something were to happen on the plane' responses

you gotta be able to take the good with the bad to be a match for mingle




I was talking about the second sentence.

no photo
Sat 05/04/13 08:32 AM


I deactivated my account because the response to this is disturbing. I suppose one has to have a gun pointed to the face to understand the fear.
I am glad you don't know what that feels like.


That is an irrational rationalization.


is there such a thing as a rational rationalization?

msharmony's photo
Sat 05/04/13 09:15 AM




I deactivated my account because the response to this is disturbing. I suppose one has to have a gun pointed to the face to understand the fear.
I am glad you don't know what that feels like.


That is an irrational rationalization.



most of us would probably not respond to a disturbing or disagreeable thread by deactivating the account,,,as opposed to choosing a different thread to participate in


but, that being said, I do understand that one might be offended at some of the 'gung ho' 'id prefer someone quick to use a gun in case something were to happen on the plane' responses

you gotta be able to take the good with the bad to be a match for mingle




I was talking about the second sentence.


I just think it was an opinion, I have heard it in many forms

people who have lost children , for instance, have said that others wouldn't be able to understand how it felt

its just the notion that unless something happens to us, we cant truly understand what that SPECIFIC something really 'feels' like when it happens,,,,which I happen to believe is true



however, we can empathize, imagine, or even understand what similar situations feel like if we have been through them

I have always felt death is death, and when people lose loved ones,, in whatever manner, they are still grieving just the same,,,,so I can relate as someone who has lost a loved one to that pain, even if I don't know EXACTLY what one feels when the death is violent vs natural,,,a child vs an adult,,,etc,,,,

krupa's photo
Sat 05/04/13 09:23 AM

Would you want a pilot who was arrested for domestic violence involving a gun to fly the plane you are on? Would you be comfortable if he could carry a fire arm on board?


Quite possibly...If the flight is from Texas....I would hope everyone got a gun....Or at least a baseball bat...it would definitely level the field.

As far as the "domestic violence" thang...he ain't gotta beat her if she just does what she is told the first time.

(That is a joke....at this point...women just cut off penises and throw them into garbage disposals)

Dodo_David's photo
Sat 05/04/13 09:35 AM





I deactivated my account because the response to this is disturbing. I suppose one has to have a gun pointed to the face to understand the fear.
I am glad you don't know what that feels like.


That is an irrational rationalization.



most of us would probably not respond to a disturbing or disagreeable thread by deactivating the account,,,as opposed to choosing a different thread to participate in


but, that being said, I do understand that one might be offended at some of the 'gung ho' 'id prefer someone quick to use a gun in case something were to happen on the plane' responses

you gotta be able to take the good with the bad to be a match for mingle




I was talking about the second sentence.


I just think it was an opinion, I have heard it in many forms

people who have lost children , for instance, have said that others wouldn't be able to understand how it felt

its just the notion that unless something happens to us, we cant truly understand what that SPECIFIC something really 'feels' like when it happens,,,,which I happen to believe is true



however, we can empathize, imagine, or even understand what similar situations feel like if we have been through them

I have always felt death is death, and when people lose loved ones,, in whatever manner, they are still grieving just the same,,,,so I can relate as someone who has lost a loved one to that pain, even if I don't know EXACTLY what one feels when the death is violent vs natural,,,a child vs an adult,,,etc,,,,


Are we supposed to base a decision for the common good on an individual's feelings or on logic and reason?

msharmony's photo
Sat 05/04/13 09:39 AM






I deactivated my account because the response to this is disturbing. I suppose one has to have a gun pointed to the face to understand the fear.
I am glad you don't know what that feels like.


That is an irrational rationalization.



most of us would probably not respond to a disturbing or disagreeable thread by deactivating the account,,,as opposed to choosing a different thread to participate in


but, that being said, I do understand that one might be offended at some of the 'gung ho' 'id prefer someone quick to use a gun in case something were to happen on the plane' responses

you gotta be able to take the good with the bad to be a match for mingle




I was talking about the second sentence.


I just think it was an opinion, I have heard it in many forms

people who have lost children , for instance, have said that others wouldn't be able to understand how it felt

its just the notion that unless something happens to us, we cant truly understand what that SPECIFIC something really 'feels' like when it happens,,,,which I happen to believe is true



however, we can empathize, imagine, or even understand what similar situations feel like if we have been through them

I have always felt death is death, and when people lose loved ones,, in whatever manner, they are still grieving just the same,,,,so I can relate as someone who has lost a loved one to that pain, even if I don't know EXACTLY what one feels when the death is violent vs natural,,,a child vs an adult,,,etc,,,,


Are we supposed to base a decision for the common good on an individual's feelings or on logic and reason?



I don't know what decision you are referring to,,,,

the question was whether people would want their pilot armed if they knew they had an arrest for domestic violence

its a subjective issue that seems to be about how people feel, I was paraphrasing what I got from one of the responses,,,

krupa's photo
Sat 05/04/13 09:41 AM
Hell....You can't order a pizza that will please 5 people....

Ain't no answer you can give to this question that will do any better.

It is just a less than subtle way of looking for a fight.

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