Topic: 2 explosions at the boston marathon finish line, dozens hurt
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Mon 04/15/13 11:47 PM

And here's your smoking gun, anyone wanna try and debate this?

http://www.facebook.com/BostonBombing1542013

This was made 8 hours ago, long before the bombings......it's been changed now to reflect a difference but it was there!


Someone who owns a facebook page can alter it at will.

If I started a facebook page for selling Avon but made very few or no sales, I can change it to something else at will.

All that you had proven is that someone started a facebook page earlier in the day and then changed it after the news.

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Tue 04/16/13 12:21 AM
Edited by Kleisto on Tue 04/16/13 12:40 AM


And here's your smoking gun, anyone wanna try and debate this?

http://www.facebook.com/BostonBombing1542013

This was made 8 hours ago, long before the bombings......it's been changed now to reflect a difference but it was there!


Someone who owns a facebook page can alter it at will.

If I started a facebook page for selling Avon but made very few or no sales, I can change it to something else at will.

All that you had proven is that someone started a facebook page earlier in the day and then changed it after the news.


Still suspicious, saw the same damn thing going on after Sandy Hook. Not to mention the several changes in dates as to when it was made, which some people were commenting on. Just doesn't sit right.

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Tue 04/16/13 12:22 AM
Edited by Kleisto on Tue 04/16/13 12:25 AM




Two words: FALSE FLAG. That is all.


Seem that someone listens to too much Alex Jones.


No, just someone who has seen these games enough times to know it's going on. Kinda surprised as aware as you are of how they operate you of all people ought to be able to recognize it too.


Do I believe that the Government will take advantage of this to Push an Agenda; yes I do.

Do I believe that the Government did this; why would they when they can just sit back and wait?


Why wait if you can create the terror yourself though? More control over the game no?

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Tue 04/16/13 12:28 AM
Edited by oldhippie1952 on Tue 04/16/13 12:36 AM
Just like the 4th (5th?) grader with the note scrawling how he would give up some of his rights to feel safer...(it's in a thread in politics forum, don't know how to post a link to it).


people will give up some of their rights now to feel safer. Keep an eye on Congress and what bills they pass.



EDIT: Just saying someone will use it to push some agenda...not necessarily a conspiracy theory, time will tell.

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Tue 04/16/13 12:38 AM

Just like the 4th (5th?) grader with the note scrawling how he would give up some of his rights to feel safer...(it's in a thread in politics forum, don't know how to post a link to it).


people will give up some of their rights now to feel safer. Keep an eye on Congress and what bills they pass.



EDIT: Just saying someone will use it to push some agenda...not necessarily a conspiracy theory, time will tell.


How to post a link you hit [ followed by url and then ], to close you do a [ + / + url and then close it with another ]

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Tue 04/16/13 12:40 AM
I don't know how to post a link to a forum thread, what do I put in-between the urls?

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Tue 04/16/13 12:43 AM
The link to the topic lol. Here I'll do it:

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/351919

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Tue 04/16/13 12:50 AM





Two words: FALSE FLAG. That is all.


Seem that someone listens to too much Alex Jones.


No, just someone who has seen these games enough times to know it's going on. Kinda surprised as aware as you are of how they operate you of all people ought to be able to recognize it too.


Do I believe that the Government will take advantage of this to Push an Agenda; yes I do.

Do I believe that the Government did this; why would they when they can just sit back and wait?


Why wait if you can create the terror yourself though? More control over the game no?



The Biggest Reason that the Government couldn't carry out such a thing, People like to Talk.

Take the number of people that would be needed to pull off Sandy Hook, from the First Responders, to Hospital Staff, to Everyone Else to make it "Credible"; multiply that by the people they know, family, friends, so on.

You'd have to argue that the Government is Competent; of all the things I'm willing to accuse the Government of, Competence isn't one of them.

"A Secret known by more than one person is already compromised" A Short Victorious War by David Webber.

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Tue 04/16/13 01:07 AM
Edited by Kleisto on Tue 04/16/13 01:09 AM






Two words: FALSE FLAG. That is all.


Seem that someone listens to too much Alex Jones.


No, just someone who has seen these games enough times to know it's going on. Kinda surprised as aware as you are of how they operate you of all people ought to be able to recognize it too.


Do I believe that the Government will take advantage of this to Push an Agenda; yes I do.

Do I believe that the Government did this; why would they when they can just sit back and wait?


Why wait if you can create the terror yourself though? More control over the game no?



The Biggest Reason that the Government couldn't carry out such a thing, People like to Talk.

Take the number of people that would be needed to pull off Sandy Hook, from the First Responders, to Hospital Staff, to Everyone Else to make it "Credible"; multiply that by the people they know, family, friends, so on.

You'd have to argue that the Government is Competent; of all the things I'm willing to accuse the Government of, Competence isn't one of them.


Well there's an easy answer to that, someone talks, you either kill em or make them look crazy so the masses won't believe them (like labeling them nutjobs, conspiracy theorists, truthers and the like for example). And those in power have been known to do both many times over.

I wouldn't underestimate these people.....they may look incompetent like they don't know what they're doing, but I think they know EXACTLY what they're doing.

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Tue 04/16/13 01:08 AM

The link to the topic lol. Here I'll do it:

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/351919


Thanks.

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Tue 04/16/13 01:10 AM







Two words: FALSE FLAG. That is all.


Seem that someone listens to too much Alex Jones.


No, just someone who has seen these games enough times to know it's going on. Kinda surprised as aware as you are of how they operate you of all people ought to be able to recognize it too.


Do I believe that the Government will take advantage of this to Push an Agenda; yes I do.

Do I believe that the Government did this; why would they when they can just sit back and wait?


Why wait if you can create the terror yourself though? More control over the game no?



The Biggest Reason that the Government couldn't carry out such a thing, People like to Talk.

Take the number of people that would be needed to pull off Sandy Hook, from the First Responders, to Hospital Staff, to Everyone Else to make it "Credible"; multiply that by the people they know, family, friends, so on.

You'd have to argue that the Government is Competent; of all the things I'm willing to accuse the Government of, Competence isn't one of them.


Well there's an easy answer to that, someone talks, you either kill em or make them look crazy so the masses won't believe them (like labeling them nutjobs, conspiracy theorists, truthers, and the like for example). And those in power have been known to do both many times over.

I wouldn't underestimate these people.....they may look incompetent like they don't know what they're doing, but I think they know EXACTLY what they're doing.


Remember Watergate and Nixon....why the govt would never spy on it's people, right?

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Tue 04/16/13 01:19 AM
Edited by Kleisto on Tue 04/16/13 01:20 AM








Two words: FALSE FLAG. That is all.


Seem that someone listens to too much Alex Jones.


No, just someone who has seen these games enough times to know it's going on. Kinda surprised as aware as you are of how they operate you of all people ought to be able to recognize it too.


Do I believe that the Government will take advantage of this to Push an Agenda; yes I do.

Do I believe that the Government did this; why would they when they can just sit back and wait?


Why wait if you can create the terror yourself though? More control over the game no?



The Biggest Reason that the Government couldn't carry out such a thing, People like to Talk.

Take the number of people that would be needed to pull off Sandy Hook, from the First Responders, to Hospital Staff, to Everyone Else to make it "Credible"; multiply that by the people they know, family, friends, so on.

You'd have to argue that the Government is Competent; of all the things I'm willing to accuse the Government of, Competence isn't one of them.


Well there's an easy answer to that, someone talks, you either kill em or make them look crazy so the masses won't believe them (like labeling them nutjobs, conspiracy theorists, truthers, and the like for example). And those in power have been known to do both many times over.

I wouldn't underestimate these people.....they may look incompetent like they don't know what they're doing, but I think they know EXACTLY what they're doing.


Remember Watergate and Nixon....why the govt would never spy on it's people, right?


That's precisely what they want people to think, by having that blind faith in effect that they would never do things like this, it makes it easier for them to pull things off. I do think more people are beginning to become wise to it though now in the internet age where less can be hidden away as compared to even 10-15 years ago, but there's still a decent chunk of the population that will go along with these events, and it's those people that really allow them all this power they wield now.

I mean we collectively could bring everything to a screeching halt in a hurry if enough of us banded together and quit playing the game anymore, but as it is there remains a large enough section of the populace willing to buy what they're selling to keep their power fairly strong. How much longer that lasts I'm not sure, but for now at least it's enough to let this go on.

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Tue 04/16/13 01:38 AM
The ba$tard$ responsible - COWARDS all - will beidentified, and hunted down.
Since no known"radical" nor"fundamentalist" group has yet 'claimed responsibility', I'd venture that some warped, demented, DOMESTIC group, with some kind of"percieved injustice agenda" may be behind this tragedy.
I sincerely doubt thiswas the work of AQ. Too unprofeshional.
This is going to hurta lot more people, though.

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Tue 04/16/13 01:42 AM

The ba$tard$ responsible - COWARDS all - will beidentified, and hunted down.
Since no known"radical" nor"fundamentalist" group has yet 'claimed responsibility', I'd venture that some warped, demented, DOMESTIC group, with some kind of"percieved injustice agenda" may be behind this tragedy.


And there's the OTHER rub here......a false flag of this magnitude can easily be spun towards "anti-government" types and in fact was already......

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/04/15/Russert-Waco-Boston-bombing

There is much that one could gain from an event like this politically speaking.......

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Tue 04/16/13 01:42 AM
The person questioned in the hospital was a Saudi national, who was report­edly tackled and held by a­bystander after he was seen running from near the scene of the explosion, said a law enforce­ment source who spoke with someone involved inthe FBI’s investigation. The Saudi man, believed to be a university student in Boston, is cooperating with the FBI and told agents that he was not involved in the explosions, and that he ran only because he was frightened. Investigators did notcharacterize the manas a suspect. No one had been arrested orcharged as of late Monday night.
Hospital officials latelast night said tests showed no radiationor biological agents on the victims, and although many people were wounded by flying shrapnel, it did not appear the bombs had been packed with nails or other fragments to increase the injuries.
Twitter and the Internet overflowed with rumors in the aftermath of the blast, some of which were later debunked. Law enforcement and city officials disputedpublished ­reports that investigators had discovered one or more bombs that had failed to explode.

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Tue 04/16/13 01:49 AM
couldn't keep a BJ in the Oval Office quiet,yet are involved in some vast Conspiracies,with tens of thousands people involved,yet no one talks!slaphead

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Tue 04/16/13 01:52 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 04/16/13 02:03 AM

And here's your smoking gun, anyone wanna try and debate this?

http://www.facebook.com/BostonBombing1542013

This was made 8 hours ago, long before the bombings......it's been changed now to reflect a difference but it was there!
yep,they are intelligent enough to pull of Grand Conspiracies,then goof on a Timestamp on FB!
Go tell that to the Ferryman!
Further,make the same Mistake for the second time in a few months!
laugh

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Tue 04/16/13 01:55 AM

couldn't keep a BJ in the Oval Office quiet,yet are involved in some vast Conspiracies,with tens of thousands people involved,yet no one talks!slaphead


BJ was a distraction if you ask me......and like I said easy solution if someone talks, kill em and make it look like you didn't, or just discredit the hell out of em. They do both routinely.

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Tue 04/16/13 02:07 AM


couldn't keep a BJ in the Oval Office quiet,yet are involved in some vast Conspiracies,with tens of thousands people involved,yet no one talks!slaphead


BJ was a distraction if you ask me......and like I said easy solution if someone talks, kill em and make it look like you didn't, or just discredit the hell out of em. They do both routinely.
you sure live in a malevolent Byronic Universe!shocked

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Tue 04/16/13 02:15 AM



couldn't keep a BJ in the Oval Office quiet,yet are involved in some vast Conspiracies,with tens of thousands people involved,yet no one talks!slaphead


BJ was a distraction if you ask me......and like I said easy solution if someone talks, kill em and make it look like you didn't, or just discredit the hell out of em. They do both routinely.
you sure live in a malevolent Byronic Universe!shocked


Nah I live in reality, join me sometime, you might learn something.