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Topic: isthere a such thing as true love??
1Cynderella's photo
Mon 04/29/13 03:40 PM

True love does exist.Met my true love forty nine years ago,she passed away fourteen years ago .i still love her,Ive thanked the lord many times for bringing this beautifull loving woman into my life to share her love with me.you will know when the right person comes along so hang in there friends,Tez.
Awww! :heart: Sounds like you've lost more than most ever have. flowerforyou

aillily's photo
Tue 04/30/13 08:56 PM
i believe it does exist. just matter of time till u meet your really one so b patient:)

ArtGurl's photo
Wed 05/01/13 02:17 AM
The thing with love is that it is one of those words that means something different to nearly everyone. Perhaps if you got more specific about what is is you are choosing, you will be less disappointed.

Choose respect, trust, honour ... Those will drive the behaviour far more predictably than love ever will.

Chilly007's photo
Wed 05/01/13 07:40 AM
Edited by Chilly007 on Wed 05/01/13 07:48 AM
Da luv of God! Relationship wise.....hmmmm can't find it any where & frankly I'm tied of waiting & taking them dreadful chances

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Wed 05/01/13 06:34 PM
The more you think about it, the more it'll drive you insane. What happened to just living in the moment and not thinking too much? People just need to chill. Stop trying to fast-forward ;)

Mirage4279's photo
Wed 05/01/13 07:44 PM

The more you think about it, the more it'll drive you insane. What happened to just living in the moment and not thinking too much? People just need to chill. Stop trying to fast-forward ;)


What kind of talk is that rawr girl... heres a frying pan...expect to see you married by morning...

1Cynderella's photo
Wed 05/01/13 08:53 PM

The thing with love is that it is one of those words that means something different to nearly everyone. Perhaps if you got more specific about what is is you are choosing, you will be less disappointed.

Choose respect, trust, honour ... Those will drive the behaviour far more predictably than love ever will.
Nice ArtGurl. flowerforyou

May I predict that respect, trust and honor lead to smitten ?

Jennerling's photo
Wed 05/01/13 08:57 PM
Fu*k no

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Wed 05/01/13 09:07 PM

true love does really happen. hang in there you'll find yours


well look who shows up outta the blue....like my tree?:wink: waving

no photo
Wed 05/01/13 09:10 PM
yes it exists but a lot of folk have too many requirements, too much ego, to allow love to take over and exist in it's purer forms

(myself included...it's hard to accept that love exists on it's own terms and not ours)

Mirage4279's photo
Wed 05/01/13 09:52 PM

yes it exists but a lot of folk have too many requirements, too much ego, to allow love to take over and exist in it's purer forms

(myself included...it's hard to accept that love exists on it's own terms and not ours)


Pretty insightful from a tree holding a watch.indifferent

ArtGurl's photo
Wed 05/01/13 10:13 PM
Edited by ArtGurl on Wed 05/01/13 10:17 PM


The thing with love is that it is one of those words that means something different to nearly everyone. Perhaps if you got more specific about what is is you are choosing, you will be less disappointed.

Choose respect, trust, honour ... Those will drive the behaviour far more predictably than love ever will.
Nice ArtGurl. flowerforyou

May I predict that respect, trust and honor lead to smitten ?



Sure it can. flowerforyou

But I can chose to be love regardless. It isn't something to find as much as something to be in my world. If i were to make it dependent upon the actions of another, I diminish it by bringing into the lower plane of polarity.

I can totally love someone but not respect them and not want a relationship with them. To really love you is to love be in total caring and acceptance...not to love you because ________________...or to love you when _______________.

To be in total allowance for how you show up. And to be completely free to choose for myself if I want to be with you without either of us needing to change.

Love is romanticized here...if people truly loved their partner, there wouldn't be so much hate when the relationship ends. There wouldn't be the controlling to make them behave in a way that meets your approval. There would just be total caring, vulnerability, intimacy, and honour of one another.

Love is one of those wonderful sounding ideals that gets misused and actually locks people up into the most limitation. If i decide that i feel better and more like me when I am with them i have begun the process of divorcing me to be with them. If I decide that i feel better when I am with him, I have to make sure he stays around. If I am vested in him staying around, I have to adjust my behaviour to try to control that. If I need to control that, I have lost touch with me. ...and on the cycle goes...

It is subtle and completely played out in the subconscious while the cute cognitive mind finds nice sounding justifications and rationalizations. Most people function with that as their reality. It just isn't the only reality.

When most people fall in love they go into conclusion about the relationship. They map out their lives some distance into the future. where you go into conclusion, you limit the possibility of creating something greater. There is this expectation that if he loves me, he will stay with me forever. Or if I love him, I must stay with him forever. Where is the choice and possibility in that? Where we go into conclusion we inadvertently begin destroying the very thing we are creating. When we remain in choice we create expansion. There is a huge difference between I made a promise to be with you til death do us part ... And I am so excited that I lived another day so I have the joy of choosing you again today.

...but most people see the former as 'real' love......





1Cynderella's photo
Wed 05/01/13 10:38 PM
Edited by 1Cynderella on Wed 05/01/13 10:39 PM



The thing with love is that it is one of those words that means something different to nearly everyone. Perhaps if you got more specific about what is is you are choosing, you will be less disappointed.

Choose respect, trust, honour ... Those will drive the behaviour far more predictably than love ever will.
Nice ArtGurl. flowerforyou

May I predict that respect, trust and honor lead to smitten ?



Sure it can. flowerforyou

But I can chose to be love regardless. It isn't something to find as much as something to be in my world. If i were to make it dependent upon the actions of another, I diminish it by bringing into the lower plane of polarity.

I can totally love someone but not respect them and not want a relationship with them. To really love you is to love be in total caring and acceptance...not to love you because ________________...or to love you when _______________.

To be in total allowance for how you show up. And to be completely free to choose for myself if I want to be with you without either of us needing to change.

Love is romanticized here...if people truly loved their partner, there wouldn't be so much hate when the relationship ends. There wouldn't be the controlling to make them behave in a way that meets your approval. There would just be total caring, vulnerability, intimacy, and honour of one another.

Love is one of those wonderful sounding ideals that gets misused and actually locks people up into the most limitation. If i decide that i feel better and more like me when I am with them i have begun the process of divorcing me to be with them. If I decide that i feel better when I am with him, I have to make sure he stays around. If I am vested in him staying around, I have to adjust my behaviour to try to control that. If I need to control that, I have lost touch with me. ...and on the cycle goes...

It is subtle and completely played out in the subconscious while the cute cognitive mind finds nice sounding justifications and rationalizations. Most people function with that as their reality. It just isn't the only reality.

When most people fall in love they go into conclusion about the relationship. They map out their lives some distance into the future. where you go into conclusion, you limit the possibility of creating something greater. There is this expectation that if he loves me, he will stay with me forever. Or if I love him, I must stay with him forever. Where is the choice and possibility in that? Where we go into conclusion we inadvertently begin destroying the very thing we are creating. When we remain in choice we create expansion. There is a huge difference between I made a promise to be with you til death do us part ... And I am so excited that I lived another day so I have the joy of choosing you again today.

...but most people see the former as 'real' love......





Love the way you think ArtGurl! The later part of your statement is the very reason I don't consider marriage as the end game so many do. I want it to be a conscience choice every day and not simply staying with the status quo out of obligation to a commitment. I think people can have that in a marriage too, but they would really have to be on the same page of thought.

I can't say I've ever tried it, but personally don't believe I can love, not romantically anyway, without respect, trust and honor. I can feel any or all of these things for someone without loving them, but have never been in love with someone who did not inspire that particular threesome as well as reflecting them back to me.


ArtGurl's photo
Wed 05/01/13 11:14 PM




The thing with love is that it is one of those words that means something different to nearly everyone. Perhaps if you got more specific about what is is you are choosing, you will be less disappointed.

Choose respect, trust, honour ... Those will drive the behaviour far more predictably than love ever will.
Nice ArtGurl. flowerforyou

May I predict that respect, trust and honor lead to smitten ?



Sure it can. flowerforyou

But I can chose to be love regardless. It isn't something to find as much as something to be in my world. If i were to make it dependent upon the actions of another, I diminish it by bringing into the lower plane of polarity.

I can totally love someone but not respect them and not want a relationship with them. To really love you is to love be in total caring and acceptance...not to love you because ________________...or to love you when _______________.

To be in total allowance for how you show up. And to be completely free to choose for myself if I want to be with you without either of us needing to change.

Love is romanticized here...if people truly loved their partner, there wouldn't be so much hate when the relationship ends. There wouldn't be the controlling to make them behave in a way that meets your approval. There would just be total caring, vulnerability, intimacy, and honour of one another.

Love is one of those wonderful sounding ideals that gets misused and actually locks people up into the most limitation. If i decide that i feel better and more like me when I am with them i have begun the process of divorcing me to be with them. If I decide that i feel better when I am with him, I have to make sure he stays around. If I am vested in him staying around, I have to adjust my behaviour to try to control that. If I need to control that, I have lost touch with me. ...and on the cycle goes...

It is subtle and completely played out in the subconscious while the cute cognitive mind finds nice sounding justifications and rationalizations. Most people function with that as their reality. It just isn't the only reality.

When most people fall in love they go into conclusion about the relationship. They map out their lives some distance into the future. where you go into conclusion, you limit the possibility of creating something greater. There is this expectation that if he loves me, he will stay with me forever. Or if I love him, I must stay with him forever. Where is the choice and possibility in that? Where we go into conclusion we inadvertently begin destroying the very thing we are creating. When we remain in choice we create expansion. There is a huge difference between I made a promise to be with you til death do us part ... And I am so excited that I lived another day so I have the joy of choosing you again today.

...but most people see the former as 'real' love......





Love the way you think ArtGurl! The later part of your statement is the very reason I don't consider marriage as the end game so many do. I want it to be a conscience choice every day and not simply staying with the status quo out of obligation to a commitment. I think people can have that in a marriage too, but they would really have to be on the same page of thought.

I can't say I've ever tried it, but personally don't believe I can love, not romantically anyway, without respect, trust and honor. I can feel any or all of these things for someone without loving them, but have never been in love with someone who did not inspire that particular threesome as well as reflecting them back to me.





It is definitely possible to create a conscious marriage ... And yes, I agree, that cannot happen without the other pieces. I would never be in a romantic relationship without trust, respect, honour, intimacy and caring.

But I can also love my aunt and honour her without respecting her, without trusting her and without feeling obligated to spend any time around her. I have too much care for me than to place myself in the path of abuse. I can't change her nor would I require that of her. We are all amazing beings in choice. She just doesn't realize that she has another choice. i can still love her and not be in judgment of her.

Nice to 'virtually' meet you Cynderella. flowerforyou

1Cynderella's photo
Thu 05/02/13 08:58 AM





The thing with love is that it is one of those words that means something different to nearly everyone. Perhaps if you got more specific about what is is you are choosing, you will be less disappointed.

Choose respect, trust, honour ... Those will drive the behaviour far more predictably than love ever will.
Nice ArtGurl. flowerforyou

May I predict that respect, trust and honor lead to smitten ?



Sure it can. flowerforyou

But I can chose to be love regardless. It isn't something to find as much as something to be in my world. If i were to make it dependent upon the actions of another, I diminish it by bringing into the lower plane of polarity.

I can totally love someone but not respect them and not want a relationship with them. To really love you is to love be in total caring and acceptance...not to love you because ________________...or to love you when _______________.

To be in total allowance for how you show up. And to be completely free to choose for myself if I want to be with you without either of us needing to change.

Love is romanticized here...if people truly loved their partner, there wouldn't be so much hate when the relationship ends. There wouldn't be the controlling to make them behave in a way that meets your approval. There would just be total caring, vulnerability, intimacy, and honour of one another.

Love is one of those wonderful sounding ideals that gets misused and actually locks people up into the most limitation. If i decide that i feel better and more like me when I am with them i have begun the process of divorcing me to be with them. If I decide that i feel better when I am with him, I have to make sure he stays around. If I am vested in him staying around, I have to adjust my behaviour to try to control that. If I need to control that, I have lost touch with me. ...and on the cycle goes...

It is subtle and completely played out in the subconscious while the cute cognitive mind finds nice sounding justifications and rationalizations. Most people function with that as their reality. It just isn't the only reality.

When most people fall in love they go into conclusion about the relationship. They map out their lives some distance into the future. where you go into conclusion, you limit the possibility of creating something greater. There is this expectation that if he loves me, he will stay with me forever. Or if I love him, I must stay with him forever. Where is the choice and possibility in that? Where we go into conclusion we inadvertently begin destroying the very thing we are creating. When we remain in choice we create expansion. There is a huge difference between I made a promise to be with you til death do us part ... And I am so excited that I lived another day so I have the joy of choosing you again today.

...but most people see the former as 'real' love......





Love the way you think ArtGurl! The later part of your statement is the very reason I don't consider marriage as the end game so many do. I want it to be a conscience choice every day and not simply staying with the status quo out of obligation to a commitment. I think people can have that in a marriage too, but they would really have to be on the same page of thought.

I can't say I've ever tried it, but personally don't believe I can love, not romantically anyway, without respect, trust and honor. I can feel any or all of these things for someone without loving them, but have never been in love with someone who did not inspire that particular threesome as well as reflecting them back to me.





It is definitely possible to create a conscious marriage ... And yes, I agree, that cannot happen without the other pieces. I would never be in a romantic relationship without trust, respect, honour, intimacy and caring.

But I can also love my aunt and honour her without respecting her, without trusting her and without feeling obligated to spend any time around her. I have too much care for me than to place myself in the path of abuse. I can't change her nor would I require that of her. We are all amazing beings in choice. She just doesn't realize that she has another choice. i can still love her and not be in judgment of her.I
Nice to 'virtually' meet you Cynderella. flowerforyou
It's a pleasure to meet you too ArtGurl. I've enjoyed your thought provoking threads and insightful postings in the forums.

I laughed at your Aunt example above, as I actually have just that type of relationship with one of mine. And, of course you are spot on. I love her dearly, but would not leave a gold fish in her charge. laugh

Yes, romantic invovements are constructed quite differently, if not just in that they are of our choosing. flowerforyou

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Thu 05/02/13 08:32 PM


yes it exists but a lot of folk have too many requirements, too much ego, to allow love to take over and exist in it's purer forms

(myself included...it's hard to accept that love exists on it's own terms and not ours)


Pretty insightful from a tree holding a watch.indifferent


thank you.

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