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Edited by
JustDukkyMkII
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Mon 02/04/13 02:11 PM
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I was merely shining some light upon what will undoubtedly be a number of folk who've forgotten or chose to forget what the policies of the Reagan administration were, and will subsequently refuse or neglect to connect the dots. I'm hoping that some of our friendly neighborhood liberal members of the press will soon remember. However, I've not see that yet. It's going to be a long wait, because your history isn't so. Governor Reagan cut mental health services, after the majority of the involuntarily committed people had been released. He closed hospitals, it's true, but he didn't kick out any patients. As president, he repealed a law passed by President Carter that would have nationalized mental healthcare. He felt it should be left up to the states. So what is there to blame President Reagan for? He didn't kick any patients out of beds and he was dead right about Washington DC not having the right to run national mental healthcare. Get over it friend and find someone alive to blame for the problem. If what Reagan did was such a tragedy, why didn't Obama take over mental healthcare when he pushed through Obamacare? Maybe it's because people don't think folks with autism, depression, homosexuals, conspiracy theorists and like shouldn't be locked up against their will?  Capital idea!...Why don't we lock up the guys who propagated the first and least believable conspiracy theory...the guys in government...Quite obviously, they are mentally ill and incompetent if they expect anyone who doesn't need regular watering to believe their bull$hit story. |
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Edited by
creativesoul
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Mon 02/04/13 06:59 PM
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It's going to be a long wait, because your history isn't so. I'll bite. Governor Reagan cut mental health services, after the majority of the involuntarily committed people had been released. What you've set out is but a beginning and as such it needs a little more light shed upon it, for as it is written it creates an unwitting reader whose left a bit in the shadows regarding what was going on at the time. The reformation of the mental health system in the U.S. was already in process prior to Reagan's presidency. When he cut mental health funding as a governor, there was already significant turmoil on the different sides of the issue at the federal(lobbying) level of which he was already in the midst, albeit on the state level. As president, he used this crisis in mental health as one of several key leverage points which allowed him to garner enough support to meet his bigger agenda:To change the overall political climate of the country. This bit we're discussing is just one facet of that. Interesting in it's own right, but just one sliver of a much larger chunk. So, as I was saying... In the early sixties, there were several initiatives passed in order to reform the mental health system. These reforms included the release of patients not deemed a danger to themselves and/or to society. However, the grounds and/or conditions of their release is equally as important. <-----That is important to consider, especially regarding how it diffuses a few of the rhetorical devices contained in your reply. On the federal level, in 1961, the Joint Commission on Mental Illness released Action for Mental Health, calling for the integration of the mentally ill into the general public with the aid of Community Mental Health Centers. The problem was that the centers were not fully funded as a result of financial woes such as Vietnam and the over-all economy of the 70's. The point is that many patients were being released into society according to conditions that were not being fulfilled. As a result, the patients were not getting the necessary treatment. There was no place for them to go in order to do so. This created all sorts of problems, both social and socio-economical. There is a virtual library of peer-reviewed papers shedding light on this very aspect. As president, he repealed a law passed by President Carter that would have nationalized mental healthcare. He felt it should be left up to the states. Not exactly, but close. The bit about what "he felt should be left up to the states" is a thin veneer over a substantial substrate of things that he felt should be left up to the states. Carter inherited the mess touched upon in my preceding paragraph, and aimed to fix it by offering the financial support that was already supposed to be there in order for the deinstitutionalization to take effect in a manner that was both economically smart, humane, and societally safe. Reagan repealed that. Are we in agreement thus far? |
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