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Unless you have inherited weapons, casual purchase or illegally gotten weapons...most of us with guns HAVE registered guns. Even from gun shows - not just dealers/retailers. What do you think they do with that paperwork/background check stuff when you go to make a purchase? ie, that is not registration. Technically that is true...but you can't convince me it's not a form of minor registration. Every day guns are tracked down through purchase records, per my friends who are licensed dealers. I am a 2nd Amendment supporter, by the way. |
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This is slightly off topic but completely related...
The Sunday after the Sandy Hook Shooting, there was an interesting discussion on several major news channels. Comparing all the recent shootings, they discussed that the biggest influence on ALL the recent shooters was the previous event...that is, they wanted to "out do" the last shooter/assailant. It wasn't the influence of video games, or drugs, or even a psychotic episode in common...it was the desire to do more/bigger/better. Well let's think about how they get all the gory details, the supposition, the 24/7 coverage of the event??? THE NEWS! SOCIAL MEDIA! THE INTERNET! That's all protected by free speech you say? Why yes it is...but if that is the real common factor, why aren't we discussing the FIRST AMENDMENT in equal measure??? Do we need to register the words that stir up tragedy? Think about it...then leave the Constitution alone. It's a very slippery slope, IMO. |
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No offense intended if it so happens....
Figures someone would want to limit the knowledge of the carnage that gun crazies cause with their guns.... 
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Edited by
willowdraga
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Thu 01/10/13 12:34 PM
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Oh I see, Bush wants a full and utter back to grade school break down of the fact that 200 years ago things were much different than they are today. So naturally things that applied then will not apply now So some of us, have to take our thinking outside the box of what a 200 year old man would do today and make the changes to make it right for today. Today. Yea. See, when you consistently apply logic and it leads to absurd results it shows you the logic is faulty. What is even more interesting is that no supreme court ruling has EVER agreed with you. I imagine that logic is better understood by them . . . The contradiction you create here has absolutely no bearing on the fact the 2nd amendment no longer applies to today. Regardless to how you want to spin it. So until it has bearing there is nothing to address is there? RIIIGHT cause its ok to say that future technology is covered by one amendment and not another arbitrarily with nothing from the actual document or even other historical documents to support such a conclusion!!!!!!!!! Actually to a logical non gun crazy mind the two are not comparable at any level The day words come out so fast they kill from the current technology developed will be the day of comparison. Until, not a valid comparison. |
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No offense intended if it so happens.... Figures someone would want to limit the knowledge of the carnage that gun crazies cause with their guns....
No offense taken... I'm merely suggesting that if we, as a nation in an understandably reactive mode, should look at the WHOLE PICTURE. |
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Most gun toters weapons are more likely to kill an innocent person than ever kill a perpetrator of a crime against said gun toter.
Gun toters, never, NEVER save the day at any of these mass shootings or any other major event that is lied about by them and the NRA and they are there at most of them. All you have to do to confuse a gun crazy is not have their same fear of life and of the gun that they have.... they just can't comprehend it...ie all of my posts and the answers to them.... 
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No offense intended if it so happens.... Figures someone would want to limit the knowledge of the carnage that gun crazies cause with their guns....
No offense taken... I'm merely suggesting that if we, as a nation in an understandably reactive mode, should look at the WHOLE PICTURE. The whole picture is that the 2nd amendment was created at a time when the weapons of all involved were the same. It was created when the masses could overthrow their little bity government because all weapons were the same and took 15 minutes to load. A well armed militia means squat to us now. Our children are being mowed down in less than a minute in their school houses 20 at time. And the gun fanaticism has become a mental illness in this country. False beliefs of power, false senses of security, etc... And I am not anti gun but I will be damned if I will sit idly by and watch the gun crazies make it worse than it already is because of them, not as they tell it, in spite of them. And just for clarification gun crazies are those who believe falsely their gun gives them more power. |
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Most gun toters weapons are more likely to kill an innocent person than ever kill a perpetrator of a crime against said gun toter. It takes a second grade education to realize with napkin math this cant be true.
157 million gun owners did not have an accident yesterday. The studies with the most lowest numbers regarding defensive use place it at 80 thousand per year, the greatest at more than 1 million. 1 in 14 Floridians have a carry permit. 1 in 5 in Utah. If your statement were true that carrying a gun was more likely to kill an innocent than fulfill its intended purpose the data would look very different. The facts are you cannot justify your statements with actual data from anywhere at all what so ever. |
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Oh I see, Bush wants a full and utter back to grade school break down of the fact that 200 years ago things were much different than they are today. So naturally things that applied then will not apply now So some of us, have to take our thinking outside the box of what a 200 year old man would do today and make the changes to make it right for today. Today. Yea. Using that argument I could tell you that anything written in a 2000 year old book (The Bible) does not apply now. |
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Considering the 2nd amendment was written when it took 15 minutes to load a weapon and the military had the same weapons as the people, it doesn't even apply today. But logic usually doesn't work well for those who are stuck mentally at a certain place they were taught to be, eh? It isn't the government who is fighting about this it is citizens like me sending mail to the whitehouse, petitions, contacting local government, etc... I will not stop until something is done that does not include armed teachers and military at our schools. Things will be done that will not include more guns. I guess you haven't yet figured out that you live in a republic eh? Let me explain the difference between a republic and a democracy... In a democracy, you have what is called the tyranny of the majority. The majority can vote away the rights of the minority. (It doesn't mean they have lost their rights, only that their rights aren't recognized...That's why democracy is called "mob rule" and the tyranny of the majority. In a republic, the RULE OF LAW is the highest rule and the votes of millions can't take away a single right of a single individual. (e.g.)...A democracy is two cannibals and a vegetarian voting on dinner... ...A republic is the cannibals going hungry if they only eat people. And? I and others will still fight for the children not to be slaughtered in less than one minute in their school in this country, call it what you want. There will not be armed teachers and there will not be military guards at the schools to make sure our children can live past 6. If you are seriously concerned for the kids' safety, then you'll be lobbying AGAINST gun free zones and FOR armed teachers. To do the opposite will be working against your stated goals of child safety; you will be working to help ensure that such massacres will continue. If your work and lobbying were to prove successful (it won't be, not lawfully so at any rate) you would then have to accept your own moral responsibility for every kid's death or maiming that could have been prevented by a child's armed school staffer. That will be YOUR cross to bear. Not, because I am not a lunatic.... I cannot take my mind back to a less intelligent point of being so I can entertain barbaric stupidity...Sorry I WILL continue to fight for sanity to prevail eventually in this country. Willowdraga this country is run by lunatics and criminals. I understand the problem here is that you are not convinced of that. You have handed over your life and the responsibility of your own safety to the government and the rule of law no longer exists in tis world for the Elite. Sanity will and cannot prevail if you allow this corrupt Elite mafia faction to have its way and take all of our rights and freedoms. You are wearing blinders and rose colored glasses. You really need to wake up. |
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And just for clarification gun crazies are those who believe falsely their gun gives them more power. Wow...then I guess I'm crazy because when the criminal is breaking in my door I can say: 1) Take anything you want but don't hurt me, or) 2) Take anything you want but if you cross the threshold of my bedroom door I will shoot to kill. One certainly SEEMS more powerful... |
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No offense intended if it so happens.... Figures someone would want to limit the knowledge of the carnage that gun crazies cause with their guns....
Joust a lot of Straw Men with a Red Herring lately? Again you attempt to reinforce an argument with this kind of insubstantial rhetoric? Again YOU assume most people are irresponsible. How many people are in YOUR opinion are responsible vs. irresponsible? 1 in 10? 1 in 100? I would say depending on the subject at hand and education levels globally in America I would say that at least 200 out of every 10,000 people are truly stupid while about 10 people of that number are just flat out not all there. But this number to me is just a hypothetical premise of mine based on personal observation. So I will not qualify it as factual. But Stupid and Responsible are not the same thing, are they? And then there is what constitutes being stupid? please, your arrogance reminds me of someone familiar! |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 01/10/13 03:15 PM
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Most gun toters weapons are more likely to kill an innocent person than ever kill a perpetrator of a crime against said gun toter. Gun toters, never, NEVER save the day at any of these mass shootings or any other major event that is lied about by them and the NRA and they are there at most of them. Willowdraga that last statement makes no sense. If a "gun toter" saved the day at a "potential mass shooting" then it would not have ended up being a "mass shooting" hense it would not receive the attention of the Media whores. The media is not interested in anything but shock and awe and mass shootings. They want headlines and ratings. I would be willing to bet every night, without fail, you are parked in a chair watching the news. |
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All of the responses again are full of fear and angst that a gun has falsely lead to a false sense of security and power that isn't real.
Your gun does nothing for you or for the rest of us except put you and us in more danger. Of which as long as you kill yourself with it, I have no issues but when an innocent child gets killed by it, that is a big issue. There is no guarantee that your weapon will not kill an innocent person by accident or by you losing your mind or someone stealing from you or one of your family members borrowing it or the dog stepping on it or etc.... All the false defenses used are false. There is not one legitimate one. It cannot stop your government It cannot stop the police It cannot stop a smart criminal And Hell no I don't fear the government or the aliens or whoever the newest paranoia is today... A gun won't help you against that paranoia either... |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 01/10/13 03:33 PM
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All of the responses again are full of fear and angst that a gun has falsely lead to a false sense of security and power that isn't real. Your gun does nothing for you or for the rest of us except put you and us in more danger. Of which as long as you kill yourself with it, I have no issues but when an innocent child gets killed by it, that is a big issue. There is no guarantee that your weapon will not kill an innocent person by accident or by you losing your mind or someone stealing from you or one of your family members borrowing it or the dog stepping on it or etc.... All the false defenses used are false. There is not one legitimate one. It cannot stop your government It cannot stop the police It cannot stop a smart criminal And Hell no I don't fear the government or the aliens or whoever the newest paranoia is today... A gun won't help you against that paranoia either... You are the one who is full of fear. (and That is crystal clear.) You are entitled to your opinions and you are entitled to never carry a gun, but you are NOT entitled to tell other people they can't. And you are not going to convince anyone. http://mingle2.com/topic/show/343896 |
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Edited by
galendgirl
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Thu 01/10/13 03:36 PM
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And Hell no I don't fear the government or the aliens or whoever the newest paranoia is today... A gun won't help you against that paranoia either... Everybody knows that requires a tin foil hat! 
And on that note what I WILL register is a sincere apology to the OP for making what (I think) is a funny comment in a thread about a very serious topic. Not trying to hijack your thread...hopefully we can all view it as a little comic relief... Best regards to all! |
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Because so many people have reacted (REACTED) to children being killed by an unknown for unknown reasons.... and all this legislation was waiting in the wings to be filed regulating guns... and all this media talk and rhetoric is all over the place, the powers that be who are behind the push to get these laws passed are going to notice that killing children is very good for their cause.
and guess what? More children will be killed.... by design. So please stop exploiting the children. |
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And Hell no I don't fear the government or the aliens or whoever the newest paranoia is today...
A gun won't help you against that paranoia either... You fear something or else you would not be wanting to disarm the public. I suspect you don't fear the government because you are part of the government. I suspect also that if you were in public office spouting this kind of anti-gun B.S. rhetoric all over the media you would probably have armed guards surrounding you. |
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And Hell no I don't fear the government or the aliens or whoever the newest paranoia is today... A gun won't help you against that paranoia either... Everybody knows that requires a tin foil hat!
And on that note what I WILL register is a sincere apology to the OP for making what (I think) is a funny comment in a thread about a very serious topic. Not trying to hijack your thread...hopefully we can all view it as a little comic relief... Best regards to all! Actually it is the metal of the guns that seems to register this insanity... so maybe put a gun on their head for it to come across correctly....
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