Topic: Electromagnetic Event: Magnetic Pole Shift Could Be In Progr
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Sat 01/05/13 03:56 PM
There are two dangers presented in this video: 1) The Electromagnetic Event; and 2) The Mega Solar Flare & CME - Music: Instrumental "Soul Survivor" by Akon & Young Jeezy


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI10tKuLtFU&feature=youtu.be

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Sat 01/05/13 04:47 PM
Very possible.

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Sat 01/05/13 05:33 PM
First of all the Mega Solar flare is a joke. Granted it is a reality but as far as it being an extinction event bear this in mind, the Earth is shielded by one hell of an electromagnetic barrier. It isn't that it cannot be collapsed but the solar flare would have to be damn near a NOVA explosion to completely overwhelm the Magnetic field that shields us. I would NOT want to be in the vicinity of the poles at all if this happened though. The magnetic fields deflect and the poles ionize giving us the Aurora and Corona Borealis. The poles become a very dangerous place to be much like getting caught in a giant bug zapper.

There is a "Theory" (And I pile poop on this one) that the reason many Dinosaur skeletons are so hot with radiation is that the extinction event was a solar flare. The dinosaur skeletons are so radioactive that they are coated with a special lead paint. They say that a massive solar event radiated the planet. Problem is the isotopes present in the Dinosaur bones are only found as the byproduct of a nuclear weapon. SOOOOOOOO what killed the dinosaurs really may be more of an eye brow raiser than you might expect in that it is POSSIBLE they were nuked off of the planet, cough, by aliens.

Now with a polar shift. Think global warming causes climate shifts? if the poles are switching like they do all those GPS gadgets and magnometers are in BIG trouble! And here is the thing. It is possible that not only does the shift happen very fast as in it is all over withing a hand full of days, the Earth's spin increases slightly and also makes gravity seem stronger! If it does happen I can't wait to see how humanity deals with that! Classically with the S pole not the N that makes the planet strangely warmer. the only reason the southern hemisphere never freezes in an ice age is becasue the S hemisphere is the closest part of the planet to the sun all the time.

Volcanism is actually more of a threat along with huge releases of Hydrated Methane!

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Sat 01/05/13 05:52 PM
I have heard that the CME's are more dangerous than the solar flares.

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Sat 01/05/13 06:58 PM

I have heard that the CME's are more dangerous than the solar flares.



Again it would have to be MASSIVE to harm us directly! we are talking an almost self destructively powerful blast. Our magnetosphere is affected but can never be shut off. The mechanism that makes it is not like a man made device that can easily be shorted out. A CME big enough to short out our magnetosphere would probably blow this planet up instead or burn it to ash. In all reality the only real hazard is to electronics and navigation.

I would hate like hell to be the astronaut caught in one though! They guys their balls glow blue at night. The gals, your nipples turn into navigation lights.

Not good!

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Sat 01/05/13 07:05 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 01/05/13 07:06 PM


I have heard that the CME's are more dangerous than the solar flares.



Again it would have to be MASSIVE to harm us directly! we are talking an almost self destructively powerful blast. Our magnetosphere is affected but can never be shut off. The mechanism that makes it is not like a man made device that can easily be shorted out. A CME big enough to short out our magnetosphere would probably blow this planet up instead or burn it to ash. In all reality the only real hazard is to electronics and navigation.

I would hate like hell to be the astronaut caught in one though! They guys their balls glow blue at night. The gals, your nipples turn into navigation lights.

Not good!


Haven't you heard? Our protective magnetosphere is very weak currently and getting weaker.

If it destroys our grid, that would not be good. It has done this in the past and set telegraph lines on fire. That is when we did not have so much dependence on electricity.


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Sat 01/05/13 07:09 PM
Although a "kill shot" is highly unlikely, it is possible and we are very dependent on electricity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0KJ_dxp170

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Sat 01/05/13 08:02 PM
our infrastructure is so far behind the times. And I find it hard to believe the magnetic field around earth has significantly weakened. A polar shift will cause it to flux but not die out or weaken significantly. If it collapsed the ambient radiation of the sun would wipe us clean long before the magnetosphere corrected itself.

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Sat 01/05/13 08:47 PM
The Carrington Effect is real. It happened in 1859 and if it were to happen today, it would be a much more devastating.

We rely too much on technology. Best bet is to live in a small rural town, store lots of food and water and have plenty of ammo.

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Sat 01/05/13 10:03 PM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Sat 01/05/13 10:09 PM
I think we all have GREAT cause for concern regarding the likelihood of a major solar flare making a direct hit. For one thing, we probably didn't have this problems for the Carrington Event of 1859 that melted some telegraph wires (the only wiring we had at the time):

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/16dec_giantbreach/

If we get a flare without a magnetosphere to protect us...LOOK OUT!

It could easily break down a large chunk of the global power grid (as in ALL of North America?).

If that happens, we will be thrust back to the dark ages overnight.:...No running water...no food (store only have a few days inventory at best and with commerce at a standstill, existing stock will be gone in a day)...no money (atms & banks will all be "out")...etc.

This won't be for a few days, or weeks...It could easily drag on for many months or even into years. As unappetizing as it may sound, there will be nothing to eat but your fat neighbours, who may well be looking at you and salivating.

The good news is that for about $400 million, resisters could be put in that could largely protect the grid from solar flares. The bad news is that even though they've known about this crap since about 2006, not one cent has gone toward protecting the grid...not the civilian one anyway...The military has been busy as hell protecting all their stuff and spending untold billions to do it, too. I guess human beings don't count...We don't come very high on their list of priorities.

On the other hand, FEMA has built a lot of camps that they would love to fill, if only to justify the investment (much more than $400 mil I'm sure). I'm sure they would probably be able to provide people with some sort of food (probably Monsanto GMO swill) & (fluoridated) water as long as they were willing to work like dogs to "earn their keep."

Actually it sounds like a perfect scenario to a banker...it gets the useless eaters off the street...ensures a huge pool of cheap, expendable labour, and leaves a lot more free land for those who can afford & appreciate it, since they'll save on the "fumigation" costs of the people who aren't so "lucky" as to find a place in a FEMA camp.

Sounds like a banker's dream! I wonder if that isn't why they haven't put a nickel into saving the power grid. What do you think?

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Sun 01/06/13 09:12 AM
Dough! I knew this was going to happen.slaphead

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Sun 01/06/13 09:15 AM

I think we all have GREAT cause for concern regarding the likelihood of a major solar flare making a direct hit. For one thing, we probably didn't have this problems for the Carrington Event of 1859 that melted some telegraph wires (the only wiring we had at the time):

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/16dec_giantbreach/

If we get a flare without a magnetosphere to protect us...LOOK OUT!

It could easily break down a large chunk of the global power grid (as in ALL of North America?).

If that happens, we will be thrust back to the dark ages overnight.:...No running water...no food (store only have a few days inventory at best and with commerce at a standstill, existing stock will be gone in a day)...no money (atms & banks will all be "out")...etc.

This won't be for a few days, or weeks...It could easily drag on for many months or even into years. As unappetizing as it may sound, there will be nothing to eat but your fat neighbours, who may well be looking at you and salivating.

The good news is that for about $400 million, resisters could be put in that could largely protect the grid from solar flares. The bad news is that even though they've known about this crap since about 2006, not one cent has gone toward protecting the grid...not the civilian one anyway...The military has been busy as hell protecting all their stuff and spending untold billions to do it, too. I guess human beings don't count...We don't come very high on their list of priorities.

On the other hand, FEMA has built a lot of camps that they would love to fill, if only to justify the investment (much more than $400 mil I'm sure). I'm sure they would probably be able to provide people with some sort of food (probably Monsanto GMO swill) & (fluoridated) water as long as they were willing to work like dogs to "earn their keep."

Actually it sounds like a perfect scenario to a banker...it gets the useless eaters off the street...ensures a huge pool of cheap, expendable labour, and leaves a lot more free land for those who can afford & appreciate it, since they'll save on the "fumigation" costs of the people who aren't so "lucky" as to find a place in a FEMA camp.

Sounds like a banker's dream! I wonder if that isn't why they haven't put a nickel into saving the power grid. What do you think?


You would not even be safe underground! The Neutron emissions alone would wipe us good not to mention Gamma Irradiation! No Magnetosphere = no life. I doubt there is a single exoform that could survive such a horrendous blast of energy. Besides, a solar flare technically is not an extinction event unless you are a robot!

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Sun 01/06/13 09:21 AM
Edited by mightymoe on Sun 01/06/13 09:21 AM

I have heard that the CME's are more dangerous than the solar flares.



huh, in 4 billion years, a CME hasn't done it yet... they are really not that strong, maybe strong enough to cause a little discomfort... and the magnetic pole shift has happened thousands of times in the past and is always in a state of movement. last i heard, it[magnetic north pole] was somewhere in russia right now

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Sun 01/06/13 09:28 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 01/06/13 09:36 AM
I am glad to hear that we don't have anything like that to worry about. I would like to live for 30 more years. I am 63 now, so that would make me 93.

After that, good luck folks...bigsmile

Its cold outside and I'm going out to walk my dogs.




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Sun 01/06/13 10:26 AM

I am glad to hear that we don't have anything like that to worry about. I would like to live for 30 more years. I am 63 now, so that would make me 93.

After that, good luck folks...bigsmile

Its cold outside and I'm going out to walk my dogs.





Must really be cold there. Watch out for the drones and reptillians.
:wink:

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Sun 01/06/13 11:11 AM


I am glad to hear that we don't have anything like that to worry about. I would like to live for 30 more years. I am 63 now, so that would make me 93.

After that, good luck folks...bigsmile

Its cold outside and I'm going out to walk my dogs.





Must really be cold there. Watch out for the drones and reptillians.
:wink:


Reptilians don't like the cold. Drones have no viable targets.

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Mon 01/07/13 09:10 PM



I am glad to hear that we don't have anything like that to worry about. I would like to live for 30 more years. I am 63 now, so that would make me 93.

After that, good luck folks...bigsmile

Its cold outside and I'm going out to walk my dogs.





Must really be cold there. Watch out for the drones and reptillians.
:wink:


Reptilians don't like the cold. Drones have no viable targets.


the global warning lie...scared