Topic: More on the 2nd Amendment.....
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 12/24/12 04:23 PM

Ben Swann of Reality Check....

http://www.fox19.com/story/20399062/the-very-politically-incorrect-truth-about-the-second-amendment


One of the posters below in comments added this, not an assumption, but rather an interpretation of its language!

I'd rather read what they wrote about it themselves:

"The power of the sword, say the minority..., is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for The powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but where, I trust in God, it will always remain, in the hands of the people."
The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Mon 12/24/12 10:34 PM
The following was a response to a debate I was having with someone on another forum on another site. (The thread was "too controversial and got pulled, so my response was never posted) I just posted the Christmas part of it to another thread on this site, but rather regretted not posting the whole response.

This thread appears to be the correct place to post it, as it pertains to the Second Amendment and why you should not give an inch when the government wants to restrict the firepower of the people.


The primary reason for the second amendment was to give the people the means to protect themselves from ALL enemies, both foreign AND domestic. The greatest danger the founding fathers foresaw was the danger of a standing army and so they wrote the second amendment to ensure by law that the American people would always have the means to oppose any army, whether a foreign invader, or government troops. This concern was so great that the government wrote the Insurrection Act in 1807 to keep the hierarchy of power going from the people down to the federal government. The flow of power was reversed to go the other way in about 1860, the year that Lincoln created the Union in order to prevent the country from breaking in two. In order to have a standing army, the government wrote the Posse Comitatus Act to ensure that the army could not be used against the people, but only for them by a now powerful (but hopefully benevolent) federal government. Please note that both the Insurrection Act and the Posse Comitatus Act have been nothing but toilet paper for the last few years (owing to changes made after 2001), so there is NOTHING standing in the way of government tyranny but the few meagre firearms you have left…and now they are coming for the more "worrisome" of those too.

If you guys can't see the connections between 9/11, the Patriot Act, the recent perversions of the Insurrection & Posse Comitatus Acts, the recent agreements to allow armed foreign troops on your soil to "restore order" in the event of "social upheaval", and the NDAA, then I feel sorry for you all…You are truly blind and helpless before a monstrous beast that will soon trample you as it has almost every other country in the world.

Whether you see it or not, the fact is, the American people have already surrendered their liberty for "safety." If you surrender any of your guns, you have surrendered your last vestige of a chance to restore it, or to at least have some chance of standing against the oppression and debt slavery that would be imposed on you for generations to come.

Stick to your guns (and get more & better ones if you can) or The Tree of Liberty will certainly die.


You might wonder why someone who doesn't even live in the US is so concerned about what the US does regarding gun laws. It's really simple. 200+ years ago, the founding fathers of your nation wrote a document called the Declaration of Independence. Most people think it is just an old & dated document, written by the colonists to King George III, but they are sadly mistaken; it was written by all men, everywhere, and for all time. The words in it are the call to action of every soul that longs for freedom from tyranny. They have been inscribed on the human heart since the dawn of time and will remain there until the last heart stops beating.

I once wrote a post somewhere about a coming global revolution where everyone around the world would scream as in a single thunderous voice, "ENOUGH!!", and the world would suddenly stop, and be still and quiet such that a dropping pin could be heard for miles, as all the Earth awaited our next order. That order would never be forthcoming, as the Peace on Earth we now enjoyed was all we ever wanted, and the order was already being obeyed without ever having been uttered.

My Christmas (my Eternal) wish for you and for us all, is for Peace on Earth.

We will eventually have peace. Whether it is the peace on Earth we all dream of, the peace of the grave, or the peace of a plantation is entirely your choice. I suggest to you however, that even the second choice is to be preferred over the last.

Stick to your guns and hang on to the Second Amendment.