Topic: The substance of the universe is consciousness
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Wed 06/26/13 09:02 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 06/26/13 09:03 PM

I believe ourselves and everything else in the cosmos is aspects of the creator made manifest in order to experience, create grow and expand. We are god, the universe has always existed and will always exist. I believe science has It backwards, the immaterial(Soul, spirit, spark of life what ever you may call it) came before the material. :banana:



I somewhat agree. Except I do not think that the universe of matter, energy and spacetime has always existed. I used to believe that, but not any more.

The Spirit did come before the material universe and IT has always existed. But the material universe was born and will die.

Consciousness = Spirit = the Prime source.


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Sat 08/03/13 01:21 AM


Are you proposing that the universe itself is alive?


Are you alive?

If you are... then yes.






We co-create the universe by observing it and experiencing it?

I have watched alot of abraham Hicks videos on youtube..I wondered for many yrs what all the coincidences were all about until I found a name for it "Law Of Attration" I see this happening dayly..so many times I am thinkung something and it happens "Instant Manisfestation"

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Sat 08/03/13 12:37 PM

Dodo_David

I am consciousness. I don't need a parachute to jump out of a plane.
I am everywhere. I am not in the plane.

We are consciousness.

I'm sure you don't understand that.



who does besides you?

we share a reality... you have your reality similar to everyone elses, and the same with them... just because you don't perceive the train about to hit you, doesn't mean it won't...

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Sat 08/03/13 02:32 PM
When I say "I am everywhere" what that means is that consciousness is everywhere.

I am consciousness. (we are consciousness

Yes we share a similar reality. We also share consciousness.




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Sat 08/03/13 06:06 PM
so is consciousness the observer ?

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Sun 08/04/13 09:50 AM

so is consciousness the observer ?


Yes.


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Sun 08/04/13 07:00 PM
guess i have to dream i see more positive in the world

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Sun 08/04/13 08:32 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 08/04/13 08:34 PM

guess i have to dream i see more positive in the world



It is helpful to keep ones thoughts and attention on good things, and things that you enjoy, like, want, desire etc. It is helpful to think about what you want and look at what you want and go in the direction of the things you want.

It is helpful to be thankful and feel gratitude for the things you have created that you like rather than to focus on the things you don't like and on complaining about the reality you have created that you don't like.

Do not focus on the ugly things.

If all of consciousness withdraws attention from a thing, that thing ceases to exist.



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Mon 08/05/13 08:05 AM
Edited by ShiningArmour on Mon 08/05/13 08:06 AM


Matter does not exist


huh Oh really?

Then try jumping out of a flying airplane without a parachute.

Since matter doesn't exist, the ground doesn't exist either.
Thus, it should be completely safe for you to jump without a parachute.

Come on! Test your idea.

If you can't find an airplane to jump out of, then try jumping off the top of a tall building. If matter doesn't exist, then the ground won't exist, right? Thus, there will be no danger of you being killed.




Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it and believe it exists.


Things only exist because I BELIEVE they do? Hmmmm. I know nothing of quantum physics and skipped the part where you explained it...therefor...this thread is only here because I BELIEVE it is! making it hallucination! and therefor...nonsense! I just disproved your theory! laugh

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Mon 08/05/13 08:17 AM



Matter does not exist


huh Oh really?

Then try jumping out of a flying airplane without a parachute.

Since matter doesn't exist, the ground doesn't exist either.
Thus, it should be completely safe for you to jump without a parachute.

Come on! Test your idea.

If you can't find an airplane to jump out of, then try jumping off the top of a tall building. If matter doesn't exist, then the ground won't exist, right? Thus, there will be no danger of you being killed.




Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it and believe it exists.


Things only exist because I BELIEVE they do? Hmmmm. I know nothing of quantum physics and skipped the part where you explained it...therefor...this thread is only here because I BELIEVE it is! making it hallucination! and therefor...nonsense! I just disproved your theory! laugh


"theory" is kind of a strong word there... "fantasy" fits a little better...

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Mon 08/05/13 11:20 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 08/05/13 11:20 AM



Matter does not exist


huh Oh really?

Then try jumping out of a flying airplane without a parachute.

Since matter doesn't exist, the ground doesn't exist either.
Thus, it should be completely safe for you to jump without a parachute.

Come on! Test your idea.

If you can't find an airplane to jump out of, then try jumping off the top of a tall building. If matter doesn't exist, then the ground won't exist, right? Thus, there will be no danger of you being killed.




Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it and believe it exists.


Things only exist because I BELIEVE they do? Hmmmm. I know nothing of quantum physics and skipped the part where you explained it...therefor...this thread is only here because I BELIEVE it is! making it hallucination! and therefor...nonsense! I just disproved your theory! laugh


Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it.

Your 'logic' is flawed.

An hallucination involves a disagreement.
A "fact" must have agreement to be a fact.

I'm sorry you don't understand this, but I don't think I can help you.




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Mon 08/05/13 04:24 PM




Matter does not exist


huh Oh really?

Then try jumping out of a flying airplane without a parachute.

Since matter doesn't exist, the ground doesn't exist either.
Thus, it should be completely safe for you to jump without a parachute.

Come on! Test your idea.

If you can't find an airplane to jump out of, then try jumping off the top of a tall building. If matter doesn't exist, then the ground won't exist, right? Thus, there will be no danger of you being killed.




Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it and believe it exists.


Things only exist because I BELIEVE they do? Hmmmm. I know nothing of quantum physics and skipped the part where you explained it...therefor...this thread is only here because I BELIEVE it is! making it hallucination! and therefor...nonsense! I just disproved your theory! laugh


Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it.

Your 'logic' is flawed.

An hallucination involves a disagreement.
A "fact" must have agreement to be a fact.

I'm sorry you don't understand this, but I don't think I can help you.


How about gettin hit the head with a meteorite? Matter? or not matter?

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Mon 08/05/13 07:19 PM





Matter does not exist


huh Oh really?

Then try jumping out of a flying airplane without a parachute.

Since matter doesn't exist, the ground doesn't exist either.
Thus, it should be completely safe for you to jump without a parachute.

Come on! Test your idea.

If you can't find an airplane to jump out of, then try jumping off the top of a tall building. If matter doesn't exist, then the ground won't exist, right? Thus, there will be no danger of you being killed.




Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it and believe it exists.


Things only exist because I BELIEVE they do? Hmmmm. I know nothing of quantum physics and skipped the part where you explained it...therefor...this thread is only here because I BELIEVE it is! making it hallucination! and therefor...nonsense! I just disproved your theory! laugh


Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it.

Your 'logic' is flawed.

An hallucination involves a disagreement.
A "fact" must have agreement to be a fact.

I'm sorry you don't understand this, but I don't think I can help you.


How about gettin hit the head with a meteorite? Matter? or not matter?


Well let's see..... we observed it didn't we?

We (consciousness) even gave it a name. Meteorite.

Therefore it exists.


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Tue 08/06/13 08:38 AM






Matter does not exist


huh Oh really?

Then try jumping out of a flying airplane without a parachute.

Since matter doesn't exist, the ground doesn't exist either.
Thus, it should be completely safe for you to jump without a parachute.

Come on! Test your idea.

If you can't find an airplane to jump out of, then try jumping off the top of a tall building. If matter doesn't exist, then the ground won't exist, right? Thus, there will be no danger of you being killed.




Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it and believe it exists.


Things only exist because I BELIEVE they do? Hmmmm. I know nothing of quantum physics and skipped the part where you explained it...therefor...this thread is only here because I BELIEVE it is! making it hallucination! and therefor...nonsense! I just disproved your theory! laugh


Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it.

Your 'logic' is flawed.

An hallucination involves a disagreement.
A "fact" must have agreement to be a fact.

I'm sorry you don't understand this, but I don't think I can help you.


How about gettin hit the head with a meteorite? Matter? or not matter?


Well let's see..... we observed it didn't we?

We (consciousness) even gave it a name. Meteorite.

Therefore it exists.




whoa

hint: it was around way before any human saw it, conceived it,or named it...

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Tue 08/06/13 11:00 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 08/06/13 11:00 AM







Matter does not exist


huh Oh really?

Then try jumping out of a flying airplane without a parachute.

Since matter doesn't exist, the ground doesn't exist either.
Thus, it should be completely safe for you to jump without a parachute.

Come on! Test your idea.

If you can't find an airplane to jump out of, then try jumping off the top of a tall building. If matter doesn't exist, then the ground won't exist, right? Thus, there will be no danger of you being killed.




Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it and believe it exists.


Things only exist because I BELIEVE they do? Hmmmm. I know nothing of quantum physics and skipped the part where you explained it...therefor...this thread is only here because I BELIEVE it is! making it hallucination! and therefor...nonsense! I just disproved your theory! laugh


Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it.

Your 'logic' is flawed.

An hallucination involves a disagreement.
A "fact" must have agreement to be a fact.

I'm sorry you don't understand this, but I don't think I can help you.


How about gettin hit the head with a meteorite? Matter? or not matter?


Well let's see..... we observed it didn't we?

We (consciousness) even gave it a name. Meteorite.

Therefore it exists.




whoa

hint: it was around way before any human saw it, conceived it,or named it...



Hint: Humans are not the only creatures in the universe who have consciousness.

Consciousness IS the substance of the entire universe.

Consciousness is the observer.

How arrogant of you humans to think you are the only conscious things in the universe. surprised

Oh well, I can see you are not conscious enough comprehend any of this.

Keep trying.


mightymoe's photo
Tue 08/06/13 11:42 AM








Matter does not exist


huh Oh really?

Then try jumping out of a flying airplane without a parachute.

Since matter doesn't exist, the ground doesn't exist either.
Thus, it should be completely safe for you to jump without a parachute.

Come on! Test your idea.

If you can't find an airplane to jump out of, then try jumping off the top of a tall building. If matter doesn't exist, then the ground won't exist, right? Thus, there will be no danger of you being killed.




Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it and believe it exists.


Things only exist because I BELIEVE they do? Hmmmm. I know nothing of quantum physics and skipped the part where you explained it...therefor...this thread is only here because I BELIEVE it is! making it hallucination! and therefor...nonsense! I just disproved your theory! laugh


Matter exists only because we (consciousness) observe it.

Your 'logic' is flawed.

An hallucination involves a disagreement.
A "fact" must have agreement to be a fact.

I'm sorry you don't understand this, but I don't think I can help you.


How about gettin hit the head with a meteorite? Matter? or not matter?


Well let's see..... we observed it didn't we?

We (consciousness) even gave it a name. Meteorite.

Therefore it exists.




whoa

hint: it was around way before any human saw it, conceived it,or named it...



Hint: Humans are not the only creatures in the universe who have consciousness.

Consciousness IS the substance of the entire universe.

Consciousness is the observer.

How arrogant of you humans to think you are the only conscious things in the universe. surprised

Oh well, I can see you are not conscious enough comprehend any of this.

Keep trying.




not conscious enough? no, not insane enough...

lol, keep trying... to what, be insane?
laugh laugh laugh

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Tue 08/06/13 12:49 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 08/06/13 12:50 PM
Everything that exists has some degree of consciousness in order to exist.

Keep trying... to comprehend. Keep trying... to be more aware.

More conscious.

The substance of the universe is consciousness.


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Tue 08/06/13 12:56 PM

Everything that exists has some degree of consciousness in order to exist.

Keep trying... to comprehend. Keep trying... to be more aware.

More conscious.

The substance of the universe is consciousness.





Are you sure JB? I thought it was lust? laugh

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Tue 08/06/13 12:58 PM


Everything that exists has some degree of consciousness in order to exist.

Keep trying... to comprehend. Keep trying... to be more aware.

More conscious.

The substance of the universe is consciousness.





Are you sure JB? I thought it was lust? laugh



That's in there somewhere, I'm sure.

It's a lust for life.


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Tue 08/06/13 01:03 PM

Everything that exists has some degree of consciousness in order to exist.

Keep trying... to comprehend. Keep trying... to be more aware.

More conscious.

The substance of the universe is consciousness.



whatever helps you sleep at night... i guess this packet of soy sauce I'm holding here is conscious? ... doesn't say anything about it on the ingredients list... just says water, salt and soy.... but if i don't look at it, it doesn't exist anymore? ... no, it's still in my hand... but on a good note... it does say "NO MSG"...