Topic: So...where do we go when we die?
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Thu 11/01/12 02:18 PM
Psalms 13:3 Consider and hear me, O God my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death;

The Bible refers to death as sleep. During this dreamless sleep, "his thoughts perish," so, is it possible to affect the lives of others or carry on normal day to day activities in normal sleep? I think not. In the book of John we find a situation where Jesus Himself refers to the dead as being asleep.

John 11:11-14 ...Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Then said his disciples, God, if he sleep, he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

The disciples thought when Jesus said Lazarus was sleeping that he would be ok. So Jesus had to plainly say "Lazarus is dead.

"It is because He knows that everyone will awaken one day out of there graves at the last day. Some will awaken to receive eternal life, and others will awaken to be destroyed in eternal damnation.

John 5:28-29, "Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the {graves} shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."

John 11:23,24 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at {the last day).

Martha, the sister of Lazarus understood the inspired biblical truth about the state of the dead. She knew Lazarus wasn't going to awaken until the last day when Jesus splits that eastern sky at His final appearance. The book of Job also mentions the length of sleep for the dead.

Job 14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.

Notice the word till in that verse of job. This means the dead will not, or cannot awaken until the last day as Martha calls it in the previous verse above the vs of job 14:...

Job says that, had he been stillborn, he would be with all other that has fallen asleep including those of kings, counselors, princes, prisoners, masters and servants; and there’s no more earthly trouble in that place ( the grave ) (Job 3:11-19).


As many are aware, today we see the majority are proclaiming that prayers to the dead are acceptable and should be done often if the dead are in fact considered a saint. Most teach that when a person dies they go to a spirit world where they can be contacted by us in prayer, or by a psychic or spirit guide in a séance. Some also teach re-incarnation where the soul goes from one life to the next Then there are those that teach the spirit of the deceased can actually haunt people if the deceased had been wronged in some major way in their mortal life, And finally, some teach that dead saints are allowed to come back physically appear unto us and warn us of mortal dangers if we don't heed their Heavenly warnings and follow their advice, some even go so far as to claim that the mother of Jesus Christ Himself appears from time to time to relay messages from heaven well before making a judgment about which is correct, if any. go to the Bible and see what the Bible has to say about where we go when we die... If we were investigating something someone told us about how to properly tune an engine we would go to the mechanics manual of that particular engine to find out if what was being said or done was correct and acceptable for that engine...

Psalms 6:3-5 My soul is also sore vexed: but thou, O God, how long? Return, O God, deliver my soul: oh save me for thy mercies' sake. For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?


The Psalmist is praying for deliverance to arrive before death here because he knows he won't have the ability to remember anything from the grave, nor can he give thanks from the grave

Psalms 115:17 The dead praise not the God, neither any that go down into silence


Psalms 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish

Ecclesiastes 9:5,6 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun

In Isaiah we see that king Hezekia was sick and Isaiah told him he was about to die. The king turned his face to the wall and prayed. In his prayer he says the following...

Isaiah 38:18-19, "For the grave cannot praise thee, death can not celebrate thee: they that go down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth. The living, the living, he shall praise thee, as I do this day: the father to the children shall make known thy truth.


It appears rather plain "The dead seem to be just that"...DEAD!


They can't remember, they can't thank anyone, they can't praise God, they can't think, they can't even dream because the verse says, "his thoughts perish." All their abilities have perished, "the dead know not any thing

Acts 2:29,34 "Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. For David is not ascended into the heavens"







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Thu 11/01/12 03:06 PM
Hi,after death there is eternal life for those who proclaim Jesus as their Lord and savior,,for those that reject Jesus,they will be judged at the end in whats called the white throne judgment ,you dont want to be in on that one,,,you have a good day and I will behappy to spend time with anyone seriously looking for bible answers ,,,,George

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Thu 11/01/12 04:54 PM
people do not enter heaven upon death; there are no dead in christ. there is no immediate internal life after death.

God can not lie.. he wrote of the last day the last day is when the dead shall be raise from the graves alllll when the heavens shall be no more.

Acts 2:29,34 "Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, {that he is both dead and buried}, and his sepulchre is with us {unto this day}. For {David is NOT ascended into the heavens):..."

Keep in mind this verse is penned AFTER the death and resurrection and ascension of our God Jesus Christ. Many preach that everyone that was in the graves are in Heaven after the resurrection of Christ because they think He brought them all out of Gehenna (Hell) the grave when He was dead. Yet, this verse proves that they are indeed in error. It seems even the early believers thought David was already in Heaven. But Peter made it plain that the passage they were questioning ( which was Psalm 16:10) in regards to not allowing His soul to stay in hell or His body to rot. The passage was indeed speaking of Jesus Christ ascending to Heaven, not David.



Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again {in the resurrection} at the last day.



Job 14:12 So man lieth down, and {riseth not}: {till) the heavens be no more} (look outside the heavens are still here ), they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep

PSALM 89:48 What man [is he that] liveth, and shall not see death? shall he deliver his soul from the hand of the grave?

If you want to know the the truth go to your holy bible, Gods love letter is the same to all of his children.




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Thu 11/01/12 04:54 PM
Edited by estell on Thu 11/01/12 04:56 PM