That may be true but any dating site, free or not, still needs an active local user base and where I live, no one seems to use any of them. eHarmony might match me up with the perfect women for me, but if she lives on the other side of the globe it doesn't do me much good

I've heard many get the same results for pay sites and free sites. Paying isn't going to guarantee anything.

Hookers are the exception here

You're looking for hookers on dating sites?

My point was that if you pay for a hooker it's pretty much guaranteed which goes against your statement that "Paying isn't going to guarantee anything". I've never met a prostitute before or enjoyed her services. I don't think dating sites would be the best way to hook up with one

I was discussing dating sites, which was the topic of this thread. That's what "paying isn't going to guarantee anything" was talking about.

I do agree. eHarmony or Match.com require you to pay but it's the same song and dance. You get the same results from mingle2, pof, and okcupid............... they're free and don't profit from your failure

Same old complaints about dating sites. You dont eat a nice food in a hurry, you take time to savour its taste and let it tantalize your taste buds. Getting a good relationship on the internet takes time, patience and wisdom. However, not everyone is destined to find their heart-throb on a dating site.

When you expect something to happen and wait for it...that is when it doesn't happen.
Why not just enjoy yourself and meet great people along the way?

True, but when you haven't eaten anything for thirteen years, you are not going to sit down and savour the srcumpt.

You instead gobble downt he goosenecks as fast as you can, AND it tastes fantastic that way, too.

If food can be nice like you said, I should data a nice fromboise de lacqueree frisson, avec fromage de poisson bleu.

You know how many things did not happen to me when I wasn't expecting them? Millions. Literally. Or perhaps trillions.

Your argument is valid, but the counter argument is even more valid.

Quo valid.

And you, meine gnaedige Frau, I enjoy your brimming optimism and bright smile.

Reading between the lines; only read that if you know that the guy is good in writing between the lines.

And most people babble, and say nothing of descriptive value, so I just look a the pictures and build a character and lifestyle around the person on the pic, taking into consideration their demeanor, pose, setting, upper arms (I am BIG on bare upper arms), how organized their looks is, or their houses, etc.

You can learn a lot from pictures, more than from profiles of up to a thousands words in length.

For a picture speaks better than a thousand words, but not so good as one thousand and one words, plus up.

True some people do not know themselves very well and say sometheing in their profile that more or less sounds rogjt and not exactly right... Not always easy to be exactly right though

I think it's very difficult. A lot of patience and just waiting for the right person to come around.

well, I tried to look for the "soulmate" in many places you just name it bars, clubs, school, beach I mean every place except the north and south pole haha. anyway, I didn't find any, i just came here and this is my first profile in a dating website. but reading your post really makes me feel negative about this.

Don't get me wrong. I never said it couldn't work. It has for many couples. Just depends on your circumstances. It could very well work for you. I was just ranting about my personal experience with dating sites

Bars. I try to avoid because I either end up:
A.**** face (See: I'm there to meet someone and as the hours tick-tock away I get drunker and drunker on account of not meeting any women.)

B.Broke (It ain't cheap that hooch where I live)

C.With cuts and bruises(maybe I fell got in a fight) don't remember because...

D. Blackouts (might not be a bad thing)

So I tend to tell my self:

"Being single is better than rushing into a sh!tty relationship."

That's why I'm giving this a shot. But from reading around these post it looks like I'm gonna need all the luck I can get.

Sadly not. Internet dating is a luck of the draw game. I do mean game. Some seem to treat it as such instead of taking it seriously. I get the feeling you aren't as social as some people are. You're shy, an introvert. Like me. We don't campaign ourselves that much and this is what we get in return: slim odds. Mostly just odd people in my world. Maybe you should post a fyler or something. "Want a date, you interested?" As unorthodox as that sounds, it could lift your spirits. I get the feeling you personally don't take chances when good things come your way. Just a vibe I'm getting. And your main problem is quite frankly you are limiting yourself to JUST your surroundings. Where's the fun in that? What if someone you've been searching for all your life lives in the states? Or even Oregon? California? New York? Don't limit yourself, only people who wish to be alone do this. Doesn't sound like you wanna be alone. Good luck, cause that's all it is.

You probably know me more than anyone else on this site and yes, I am an introvert which doesn't help when trying to meet someone. I think I could be a great companion to the right woman, I just haven't found her yet, and dating sites don't seem to bring me any closer. I want someone local which I've explained to you many times

Well, it depends on your standards and your expectations.

If you don`t demand of yourself to be exactly right, then you are exaclty right, according to the expectations, even when you are less than exactly right.