Racism does not have to involve hatred. Racism can simply be the belief that one race is somehow superior or inferior to another race.

I agree, I guess the majority of Mormans voting for Romney are racist lol. A woman voting for Hilary Clinton over Obama in the primary would make you a sexist lol.

If I recall correctly, during the 2008 Democratic Primaries, there were women who voted for Clinton because she is a woman.

That is my point. It is very empowering for black people to actually vote for a candidate who looks like them. A Woman to vote for the first woman president is very empowering. A Mormon to vote for the first Mormon president is very empowering. It has nothing to do with racism just favoritism.

there is no way NOT to factor in a persons race, if you aknowledge it, it becomes a factor

but whether or not that factor has RELEVANCE is another issue

I factor in that Obama is married, but Im certainly not voting for him because he is married

I am likewise not voting for him because he is black anymore than I voted for Clinton because he is white

but I did factor in their TOTAL package, in which race is included

Racism is a form of favoritism. It is favoritism based on race.

Acknowledging a person's race isn't the same thing as factoring in that person's race when deciding whether or not to vote for that person.

true , but not every factor in a decision is the factor that is FAVORED,,,,


if one is solely voting upon race, than race is what they are using to FAVOR one candidate over another, and that is racist

if one is looking at race, experience, intelligence, demeanor and other factors, and the experience and intelligence and demeanor are the factors which are FAVORED in the decision than that decision was not racist

One shouldn't be looking at race in the first place because it is irrelevant. Looking at a candidate's race is like looking at the person's height or hair color. It is trivia.

Let's cut to the chase. The AP story that I mention in the OP pertains to an elephant in the room . . . an act of racism committed by people who are African-Americans. The fact that some African-Americans don't participate in such racism doesn't eliminate the fact that there are plenty of African-Americans who do. Refusing to talk about the elephant won't make it go away.

Racism,like hate is a trait(emotion) all humans have within us. Like hate, we must control it so that it doesn't effect our actions. So that is why I'm going to vote for the white guy.

What racism that is. You should be voting for the Melmacian instead.

okay, if you say so.

As I see it, if you are going to insist that people talk about an elephant in the room (such as a lingering effect of institutional racism), then I'm going to insist that people talk about every elephant in the herd, which is why I started this thread. I saw another elephant in the room, in the form of racism being committed by some African-American voters. I refuse to dismiss such racism as being no big deal.

If you want to have an honest discussion about race, then you have to talk about all forms of racism.

Of course there can be racism, bigotry in all races/cultures/societal cliques. The difference is who is in control and how much racism is in the controlling race. That is where Americas problem comes in at. Having been a country created by white racists and controlled completely by white racist idealism but less more recently. That is where the problem becomes a massive issue of monumental proportions.

Blacks are not a large enough group to alone sway the pendulum of white racists yet in this country. But one day all non whites will be the majority and when that happens hopefully they do not treat whites as badly as whites have treated them.

So you hear the fearmongerers "Whites are going to be a minority"? I always ask "Why you worried, dipshyte, do minorities get treated badly?"

There are blacks who do not approve of President Obama's job, not because they are Republican but because they forgot the civic lesson in school, just like the disallusioned whites. Presidents power is only as good as his congress is. This one sucked big time.

Too bad Bush didn't have this congress, the illegal war wouldn't have happened.

Im lost on exactly what the point is,,,,

respectfully this elephant seems irrelevant only because it was asked and answered,, people of all races can be racist, and racists will let race affect their personal decisions

seems like there is more of an interest in pinpointing one race or another,, and based on the history of presidential elections, I dont think that pail holds much water,,,,

Just a reminder!

Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors.

Racism claims that the content of a man’s mind (not his cognitive apparatus, but its content) is inherited; that a man’s convictions, values and character are determined before he is born, by physical factors beyond his control. This is the caveman’s version of the doctrine of innate ideas—or of inherited knowledge—which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science. Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men.

Like every form of determinism, racism invalidates the specific attribute which distinguishes man from all other living species: his rational faculty. Racism negates two aspects of man’s life: reason and choice, or mind and morality, replacing them with chemical predestination.


Like every other form of collectivism, racism is a quest for the unearned. It is a quest for automatic knowledge—for an automatic evaluation of men’s characters that bypasses the responsibility of exercising rational or moral judgment—and, above all, a quest for an automatic self-esteem (or pseudo-self-esteem).

A genius is a genius, regardless of the number of morons who belong to the same race—and a moron is a moron, regardless of the number of geniuses who share his racial origin.

Today, racism is regarded as a crime if practiced by a majority—but as an inalienable right if practiced by a minority. The notion that one’s culture is superior to all others solely because it represents the traditions of one’s ancestors, is regarded as chauvinism if claimed by a majority—but as “ethnic” pride if claimed by a minority. Resistance to change and progress is regarded as reactionary if demonstrated by a majority—but retrogression to a Balkan village, to an Indian tepee or to the jungle is hailed if demonstrated by a minority.

http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/racism.html

Don't forget about the dead who miraculously rise from the grave to vote for Obama.