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Topic: Giraldi: Why I Dislike Israel
willing2's photo
Thu 10/04/12 10:31 AM

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The Article is to do with Israel Interfering in American electoral politics.

Could we get back to the topic please.

Has more to do with hating on Jews.
Do I see prejudiced?
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Optomistic69's photo
Thu 10/04/12 10:33 AM


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The Article is to do with Israel Interfering in American electoral politics.

Could we get back to the topic please.

Has more to do with hating on Jews.
Do I see prejudiced?
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I bet you didn't read the article.

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Thu 10/04/12 11:01 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 10/04/12 11:29 AM


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The Article is to do with Israel Interfering in American electoral politics.

Could we get back to the topic please.

Has more to do with hating on Jews.
Do I see prejudiced?
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only need to look at the Sites the Guy is writing for!
Known anti-semitic and Conspiracy-Theory-Sites!laugh
He is a blooming anti-Semite himself!
Writes for this Rag,among quite a number of other Racist Publications!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Free_Press

So it surprises me less and less why he's been quoted!

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/former-cia-agent-and-ron-paul-adviser-writes-on-antisemitic-website-attacking-counter-jihadists.html

He is a sad Character!
Utter Trash!

http://frum.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTM2NmQ4MzU5MGM0NzhlYjdlYTcyYWQzODdlZWZiYjY=

Optomistic69's photo
Thu 10/04/12 11:21 AM
Hate speech posing as free speech


I will deliberately avoid belaboring another Israel Firster Pamela Geller and her New York subway posters calling Palestinians savages and Israelis civilized, as I am sure the point has been made about how any lie that can serve the cause of Israel will be aggressively defended as “free speech.” A poster excoriating Jews or blacks in similar terms as “savages” would not have seen the light of day in New York City, another indication of the power of the Lobby and its friends to control the debate about the Middle East and game the system.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 10/04/12 11:25 AM

Hate speech posing as free speech


I will deliberately avoid belaboring another Israel Firster Pamela Geller and her New York subway posters calling Palestinians savages and Israelis civilized, as I am sure the point has been made about how any lie that can serve the cause of Israel will be aggressively defended as “free speech.” A poster excoriating Jews or blacks in similar terms as “savages” would not have seen the light of day in New York City, another indication of the power of the Lobby and its friends to control the debate about the Middle East and game the system.
whatever they might say,they can't outdo your Boy!
He's another Unique Hater!

msharmony's photo
Thu 10/04/12 11:27 AM
opinion pieces can never escape some bias

plenty of biased sources quoted here in these political forums,,,

its the nature of the game

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Thu 10/04/12 01:08 PM

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The Article is to do with Israel Interfering in American electoral politics.

Could we get back to the topic please.


OK - There is no evidence of Israel interfering in American electoral
politics....so that is going to be a very short discussion.

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In fact, I guess we are done.

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Optomistic69's photo
Thu 10/04/12 01:26 PM


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The Article is to do with Israel Interfering in American electoral politics.

Could we get back to the topic please.


OK - There is no evidence of Israel interfering in American electoral
politics....so that is going to be a very short discussion.

laugh

In fact, I guess we are done.

laugh


There are none so blind than those that will not seebigsmile



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Thu 10/04/12 01:31 PM



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The Article is to do with Israel Interfering in American electoral politics.

Could we get back to the topic please.


OK - There is no evidence of Israel interfering in American electoral
politics....so that is going to be a very short discussion.

laugh

In fact, I guess we are done.

laugh


There are none so blind than those that will not seebigsmile


glad to hear that you may be discovering the weak points in your
arguments!

drinker

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Thu 10/04/12 01:46 PM
Pushing us into war


And why is Benjamin Netanyahu in such a lather? It is because President Barack Obama will not concede to him a "red line" that would automatically trigger a U.S. attack on Iran. Consider for a moment the hubris of Netanyahu in demanding that Washington meet his conditions for going to war with Iran, a nation that for all its frequently described faults has not
Netanyahu and his bomb diagram at the UN
attacked anyone, has not threatened to attack anyone, and has not made the political decision to acquire a nuclear weapon in spite of what one reads in the U.S. press. At the U.N., Netanyahu's chart showing a cartoon bomb with a sputtering fuse reminiscent of something that might have been employed by an anarchist in the 1870s failed to pass any credibility test even for the inevitable cheerleaders in the U.S. media. If the U.S. is to go to war based on a Netanyahu cartoon then it deserves everything it gets when the venture turns sour, most likely Iraq Redux, only 10 times worse.

Even more outrageous, and a lot less reported in the media, were the comments made by Patrick Clawson, director of research for the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), an organization founded by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). WINEP is widely viewed as a major component of the Israel Lobby in Washington and is closely tied to the Israeli government, with which it communicates on a regular basis. Clawson heads WINEP's Iran Security Initiative. At a briefing on Sept. 24 he said, "I frankly think that crisis initiation is really tough, and it's very hard for me to see how the United States … uh … president can get us to war with Iran.… The traditional way America gets to war is what would be best for U.S. interests."

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Thu 10/04/12 01:51 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 10/04/12 01:56 PM

Pushing us into war


And why is Benjamin Netanyahu in such a lather? It is because President Barack Obama will not concede to him a "red line" that would automatically trigger a U.S. attack on Iran. Consider for a moment the hubris of Netanyahu in demanding that Washington meet his conditions for going to war with Iran, a nation that for all its frequently described faults has not
Netanyahu and his bomb diagram at the UN
attacked anyone, has not threatened to attack anyone, and has not made the political decision to acquire a nuclear weapon in spite of what one reads in the U.S. press. At the U.N., Netanyahu's chart showing a cartoon bomb with a sputtering fuse reminiscent of something that might have been employed by an anarchist in the 1870s failed to pass any credibility test even for the inevitable cheerleaders in the U.S. media. If the U.S. is to go to war based on a Netanyahu cartoon then it deserves everything it gets when the venture turns sour, most likely Iraq Redux, only 10 times worse.

Even more outrageous, and a lot less reported in the media, were the comments made by Patrick Clawson, director of research for the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), an organization founded by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). WINEP is widely viewed as a major component of the Israel Lobby in Washington and is closely tied to the Israeli government, with which it communicates on a regular basis. Clawson heads WINEP's Iran Security Initiative. At a briefing on Sept. 24 he said, "I frankly think that crisis initiation is really tough, and it's very hard for me to see how the United States … uh … president can get us to war with Iran.… The traditional way America gets to war is what would be best for U.S. interests."

yep,Clawson is the Official Spokesman for Israel!laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
Besides,what's Clawson got to do with that Giraldi-Thing?

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Thu 10/04/12 01:58 PM
No one speaks more eloquently on this subject than Philip Giraldi. Americans should be outraged, and there are some signs that an increasing number of us are. It's as if they are slowly being deprogrammed out of a cult- because make no mistake, the Israel Lobby's control over Americans, their media and the US Congress is cult-like. Mearsheimer & Walt's landmark tome, "The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy" made it OK to criticize Israel without automatically being branded an anti-Semite, although the tag is still being used as a weapon. Giraldi goes further, challenging our errant moral compasses, our "selective outrage."

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 10/04/12 02:05 PM

No one speaks more eloquently on this subject than Philip Giraldi. Americans should be outraged, and there are some signs that an increasing number of us are. It's as if they are slowly being deprogrammed out of a cult- because make no mistake, the Israel Lobby's control over Americans, their media and the US Congress is cult-like. Mearsheimer & Walt's landmark tome, "The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy" made it OK to criticize Israel without automatically being branded an anti-Semite, although the tag is still being used as a weapon. Giraldi goes further, challenging our errant moral compasses, our "selective outrage."
His own writings,and where he publishes them brand him as an anti-Semite!
He acquired that label all by himself!

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Thu 10/04/12 02:06 PM
Spying


And then there are the reasons to dislike Israel and what it represents that go way back. In 1952's Lavon Affair, the Israelis were prepared to blow up a U.S. Information Center in Alexandria and blame it on the Egyptians. In 1967, the Israelis attacked and nearly sank the USS Liberty, killing 34 crewmen, and then used their power over President Lyndon Johnson to block an investigation into what had occurred. In 1987, Jonathan Pollard was convicted of spying for Israel with investigators determining that he had been the most damaging spy in the history of the United States. In the 1960s, Israelis stole uranium from a lab in Pennsylvania to construct a secret nuclear arsenal. And the spying and theft of U.S. technology continues. Israel is the most active "friendly nation" when it comes to stealing U.S. secrets, and when its spies are caught, they are either sent home or, if they are Americans, receive a slap on the wrist.

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