Most men do not want kids especially free spirited individuals.

Really? Tell it to all the 50+ guys that are wanting kids.

50 years and older wanting kids. Well that is a handful at that age.

Not saying this is OP's situation but the times I have dated some guy who swears he has had no wife and kids at the 40+ year mark I find out thay have in fact had several "informal" wives. And many still do be it being a friend, sibling, mother, aunt,grandmother, employer, neighbor, sex-buddy, or prostitute.

And as for kids the same story pretty much olds true. The worst one's are the guys who have some kid they have latched on to that is spoilt rotten and plays them like a fiddle wheather it is money or useing them as a boss, or free landlord.

The not so uncommon ones now days are the one's that think they have no kids and now with the wonder's of the internet and DNA testing find out they do and have to deal with that drama 20+ years after the fact. You can bet if a guy has a little something something that if for only nuisance value or the satisfaction of a disgruntled competator than and offspring/past lover will show up trying to claim standing.

A close second is the guy who has a zoo of animals that has compleately taken over his life. many of them or grossly spoilt, malnurrished, and sickly and invariably sleep with them, have compleat run of the home and car, and keep them broke with various pet expenses.

By far the all time worst is the guy who has made his job his "family". He has zero identity except as the sucker boss, is usually hemorageing money, can't take a day off to save his sanity, and really only sees and will treat you as an employee that he does not have to pay. You, or he, can be at death's door in the ICU and his pager is going off and he will go back to the job.

Women never win in these situations. If you try to tolerate it they resent you are too nice, if you try to say enough then you are selfish, and if you say no you are a demented heartless depriving biotch.

Sadly the ones who have families they claim are sometimes no better.

I think I was incredibly lucky my best fortune was with someone who was tired of being married to his job but was glad to avoid the baby thing and eventually adopted my two from their abandoning biological father. That he is deceased and unawares that the grandchildren some times see this biological realic probably prevented WWIII.

Yep, and lets not forget they retire in 15 or less years. So, I could never figure how they intend to pay for a college or university education on a pension but I don't think these guys think that far ahead.

Easy. Marry someone real young and when I retire I am playing with the 15 year old kid and she keeps working. I like this idea.

Yes but my boyfriend is more like "Yeah! She likes to walk around in her underwear and there are no kids so we don't have to censor ourselves. Yeah"!

Mo, it means she was a lazy *** who wouldn't make you a sammich. You are better off without her

You don't wanna pass those hot genetics of yours on to the next generation? Hmmm....

No....that is selfish and selfserving.

If ANYONE in their 50's want a kid....here is something to consider...

After high school the kid is 18....the parent is 68 and health problems start....that kid needs to start thinking about caring for their parent.

At 22 after 4 years of college ...the parent is 72....the health pro lems can't be ignored.

A young person trying to start a life and a family would be SCREWED...cause they got to take care of their parent (s) instead of focusing on building their own life.

Any A -hole who would put a kid through that should be hung then shot.


I only say this cause my step mom brought in her mother to be cared for at home at 63...she lived to 103.

I totally agree.

Prolly expected a married guy would be used to making his own sammys.

How ya been? Haven't seen ya around for a while?

I'm good. Haven't been on much. Working, parenting, you know the usual.

The next generation can't handle my hot genetics.

No....that is selfish and selfserving.

If ANYONE in their 50's want a kid....here is something to consider...

After high school the kid is 18....the parent is 68 and health problems start....that kid needs to start thinking about caring for their parent.

At 22 after 4 years of college ...the parent is 72....the health pro lems can't be ignored.

A young person trying to start a life and a family would be SCREWED...cause they got to take care of their parent (s) instead of focusing on building their own life.

Any A -hole who would put a kid through that should be hung then shot.


I only say this cause my step mom brought in her mother to be cared for at home at 63...she lived to 103....

Think about that...40 years of home care....from a child.

My parents lost all concept of having their own life and dedicated 40 years to serve and care for a sweet little lady who spent her life living in a field and pumping out kids.


Grandma was sweet......she had good intentions....and that don't change the fact that she fkd my family over buy pushing out kids late in life...

Can you go out....no.....take care of the parent.

Go on a get away weekend? No....pay for grandma 's health care threapist



I love my grandma....don't get me wrong.

But.....she didn't do my mom or dad any flavors by bumping grandpa in her 50's.

Well; I hope these guys in their 50s will read your post and come to their senses.