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Topic: A Muhammad cartoon a day
Lpdon's photo
Fri 09/21/12 11:58 PM
When Salman Rushdie mocked Islamic sanctities in his magical 1989 realist novel “The Satanic Verses,” Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini did something shockingly original: He issued a death edict on Rushdie and all those connected to the production of his book. By doing this, Khomeini sought to impose Islamic mores and laws on the West. We don’t insult the prophet, he effectively said, and neither can you.

That started a trend of condemning those in the West deemed anti-Islamic that persists to this day. Again and again, when Westerners are perceived as denigrating Muhammad, the Koran, or Islam, Islamists demonstrate, riot or kill.

Khomeini’s edict also had the unexpected side effect of empowering individuals – Western and Islamist alike – to drive their countries’ policies.

Fleming Rose, a newspaper editor, created the greatest crisis for Denmark since World War II by publishing 12 cartoons depicting Muhammad. Florida pastor Terry Jones sowed panic among American commanders in Afghanistan by threatening to burn a Koran. Nakoula Basseley Nakoula and friends prompted a crisis in U.S.-Egyptian relations with his amateurish "Innocence of Muslims" video. And the satirical French weekly Charlie Hebdo caused the French government to temporarily shut down diplomatic missions in 20 countries. Plans by the German satirical magazine Titanicto publish attacks on Muhammad likewise led German missions to be closed.

On the Islamist side, an individual or group took one of these perceived offenses and turned it into a reason to riot. Khomeini did this with “The Satanic Verses.” Ahmad Abu Laban did likewise with the Danish cartoons. Afghan President Hamid Karzai goaded his people to riot over burned Korans by American soldiers, and Egyptian preacher Khaled Abdullah turned “Innocence of Muslims” into an international event.

Any Westerner can now buy a Koran for a dollar and burn it, while any Muslim with a platform can transform that act into a fighting offense. As passions rise on both sides of the divide, Western provocateurs and Islamist hotheads have found each other, as confrontations occur with increasing frequency.

Which prompts this question: What would happen if publishers and managers of major media outlets reached a consensus -- “Enough of this intimidation, we will publish the most famous Danish Muhammad cartoon every day, until the Islamists tire out and no longer riot”? What would happen if Korans were recurrently burned?

Would repetition inspire institutionalization, generate ever-more outraged responses, and offer a vehicle for Islamists to ride to greater power? Or would it lead to routinization, to a wearing out of Islamists, and a realization that violence is counter-productive to their cause?

I predict the latter. A Muhammad cartoon published each day, or Koranic desecrations on a quasi-regular basis, would make it harder for Islamists to mobilize Muslim mobs. Westerners could then once again treat Islam as they do other religions – freely, to criticize without fear. That would demonstrate to Islamists that Westerners will not capitulate, that they reject Islamic law, that they are ready to stand up for their values.

So, this is my plea to all Western editors and producers: Display the Muhammad cartoon daily, until the Islamists become accustomed to the fact that we turn sacred cows into hamburger.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/21/muhammad-cartoon-day/#ixzz27BBaioHk

An amzing idea! :banana:

kevinkol's photo
Sat 09/22/12 12:31 AM
not a good idea my friend! this will endanger the life of western people living in muslim countries. and why to hurt any religon ? its ok if you dont follow it you dont have to like it but atleast dont crtisize it.. think of the reactions ? do you want one more 9/11 ?? no the answer is no

msharmony's photo
Sat 09/22/12 12:34 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 09/22/12 12:35 AM
great way to put those actually trying to live AMONGST muslims in danger

but hey, whats a few lives so that we can prove we will do whatever we want to including making purposefully offensive habits popular and mainstream while we protest in our safe AMERICAN country,,,,,?

muslims are no more one sided than the pre civil war america was

but many muslims are attacked and in fear themself of extremists and many americans are in those countries trying to help,,,its a stupid thing to endanger OTHERS lives about,,,

s1owhand's photo
Sat 09/22/12 01:12 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Sat 09/22/12 01:21 AM
if artists cannot cartoon mohammed out of fear of violence
then we have lost our ability to speak freely already.

those who commit violence in the name of religion
should be the ones who are pursued and held accountable

those who make art, cartoons, comedy and laughter
should be protected and never subjected to religious
bigotry or intolerance

many muslims are already calling for violent attacks on
comedians, embassies and innocent people to end immediately
as this defames islam worse than any cartoon could
possibly harm the religion.

the behavior of those who riot and kill in the name of
islam is the worst defamation of the religion and over
the last few days has painted an appalling caricature of
muslims much worse than any silly movie trailer or cartoon
could ever have done.

i call for an end to the violence immediately and call
for muslims everywhere to simply ignore bugs bunny,
south park, and movies insulting to mohammed rather than
to kill and riot and unjustly defame other innocent people
and publicize such garbage.

drinker


Not everyone will understand of course...

=-=-=-=-=

Some Muslims Don't Get It: Freedom of Speech and the Legitimacy of Muslim Protests

Freedom is an inherent value of all religions, without which no religion would have come into being, or would have flourished. Islam and Christianity are the biggest beneficiaries of that freedom. Indeed, it is the freedom of speech that has allowed Islam to flourish in Christian majority nations, and I wish Muslim majority nations reciprocate the same to Christians and others who are their minorities. A hallmark of great civilization is free speech and a two way values, live and let live.

Most Americans, including American Muslims have condemned the trailer and the idiot who made it; however, it is not easy to punish the guy in our system. We are who we are because of that freedom, and are willing to defend his right to the free expression.

Even the President of United States cannot do a thing about it, Google turned down his request to yank the film trailer off YouTube, and I hope the Muslim majority nations can appreciate the value we place on freedom, which is guaranteed in our constitution, a good solid enduring system of laws. So, it is not America, it was the individual who made that movie. He has a right to make that, and the others have the right not to see it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ghouse/freedom-of-speech-and-the-legitimacy-of-muslim-protests_b_1902427.html

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/22/12 03:44 AM

not a good idea my friend! this will endanger the life of western people living in muslim countries. and why to hurt any religon ? its ok if you dont follow it you dont have to like it but atleast dont crtisize it.. think of the reactions ? do you want one more 9/11 ?? no the answer is no


Not if every publisher ran with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/22/12 03:59 AM

great way to put those actually trying to live AMONGST muslims in danger

but hey, whats a few lives so that we can prove we will do whatever we want to including making purposefully offensive habits popular and mainstream while we protest in our safe AMERICAN country,,,,,?

muslims are no more one sided than the pre civil war america was

but many muslims are attacked and in fear themself of extremists and many americans are in those countries trying to help,,,its a stupid thing to endanger OTHERS lives about,,,


I figured you's stick up for the terrorists..

It's their bad if they want to live AMONGST the ANIMALS then they take the risk.

It it's ok for these Animals to rip down and tear up and burn our American Flags (Where they do it infront of Military guys and gal's who that means soemthing to and the tear up or burn it up in front of them. But your going to e

If we live in fear of publishing something then they are winning.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/22/12 04:01 AM

if artists cannot cartoon mohammed out of fear of violence
then we have lost our ability to speak freely already.

those who commit violence in the name of religion
should be the ones who are pursued and held accountable

those who make art, cartoons, comedy and laughter
should be protected and never subjected to religious
bigotry or intolerance

many muslims are already calling for violent attacks on
comedians, embassies and innocent people to end immediately
as this defames islam worse than any cartoon could
possibly harm the religion.

the behavior of those who riot and kill in the name of
islam is the worst defamation of the religion and over
the last few days has painted an appalling caricature of
muslims much worse than any silly movie trailer or cartoon
could ever have done.

i call for an end to the violence immediately and call
for muslims everywhere to simply ignore bugs bunny,
south park, and movies insulting to mohammed rather than
to kill and riot and unjustly defame other innocent people
and publicize such garbage.

drinker


Not everyone will understand of course...

=-=-=-=-=

Some Muslims Don't Get It: Freedom of Speech and the Legitimacy of Muslim Protests

Freedom is an inherent value of all religions, without which no religion would have come into being, or would have flourished. Islam and Christianity are the biggest beneficiaries of that freedom. Indeed, it is the freedom of speech that has allowed Islam to flourish in Christian majority nations, and I wish Muslim majority nations reciprocate the same to Christians and others who are their minorities. A hallmark of great civilization is free speech and a two way values, live and let live.

Most Americans, including American Muslims have condemned the trailer and the idiot who made it; however, it is not easy to punish the guy in our system. We are who we are because of that freedom, and are willing to defend his right to the free expression.

Even the President of United States cannot do a thing about it, Google turned down his request to yank the film trailer off YouTube, and I hope the Muslim majority nations can appreciate the value we place on freedom, which is guaranteed in our constitution, a good solid enduring system of laws. So, it is not America, it was the individual who made that movie. He has a right to make that, and the others have the right not to see it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ghouse/freedom-of-speech-and-the-legitimacy-of-muslim-protests_b_1902427.html


Animals, they are ALL animals!

willing2's photo
Sat 09/22/12 04:41 AM
No American, German, European or Christian is safe in any muslim majority country.

Never have been.

I don't care what Hussein thinks about offending the Pedo Mohammed. I will never apologize.

Like the video said. Try that sheite in a country where you are the minority.

PS
Cut off all money to countries who kill folks over mohammed. They keep it up, nuke 'em.

Totage's photo
Sat 09/22/12 05:02 AM
This has got to be almost as "smart" as the "Nuke 'em all" concept.

Really?

Even I have more common sense than to think that would be a good idea, and I don't have much common sense.


<<<< This is my hoomans r so freekin stoopid look.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 09/22/12 05:46 AM
you mean,don't let them catch their Breath?
Keep them going 24/7?

Totage's photo
Sat 09/22/12 06:12 AM

No American, German, European or Christian is safe in any muslim majority country.

Never have been.

I don't care what Hussein thinks about offending the Pedo Mohammed. I will never apologize.

Like the video said. Try that sheite in a country where you are the minority.

PS
Cut off all money to countries who kill folks over mohammed. They keep it up, nuke 'em.


You do realize what a nuke is, right? If you honestly think that's a solution, you're worse off than those who are killing over mohammed.

willing2's photo
Sat 09/22/12 06:53 AM


No American, German, European or Christian is safe in any muslim majority country.

Never have been.

I don't care what Hussein thinks about offending the Pedo Mohammed. I will never apologize.

Like the video said. Try that sheite in a country where you are the minority.

PS
Cut off all money to countries who kill folks over mohammed. They keep it up, nuke 'em.


You do realize what a nuke is, right? If you honestly think that's a solution, you're worse off than those who are killing over mohammed.

What solution would you offer?
Bow to them?

s1owhand's photo
Sat 09/22/12 07:03 AM
How about if there was a movement to build some churches, synagogues
and hindu/buddhist temples in Mecca and Medina?

That should be alright right? flowerforyou

willing2's photo
Sat 09/22/12 07:32 AM

How about if there was a movement to build some churches, synagogues
and hindu/buddhist temples in Mecca and Medina?

That should be alright right? flowerforyou

Why? They will still kill the non-muslim.
I see the mentality of ignorance. Give an inch and they demand the miles.
I say, confront them on their terms. Kill 10 for every one they kill.
Better yet, ship all muslims, including NOI to the mid-east and be vry strict on who is allowed to visit.
What they do to their own would no longer be ouw business.
Other countries are deporting them.


msharmony's photo
Sat 09/22/12 07:43 AM


great way to put those actually trying to live AMONGST muslims in danger

but hey, whats a few lives so that we can prove we will do whatever we want to including making purposefully offensive habits popular and mainstream while we protest in our safe AMERICAN country,,,,,?

muslims are no more one sided than the pre civil war america was

but many muslims are attacked and in fear themself of extremists and many americans are in those countries trying to help,,,its a stupid thing to endanger OTHERS lives about,,,


I figured you's stick up for the terrorists..

It's their bad if they want to live AMONGST the ANIMALS then they take the risk.

It it's ok for these Animals to rip down and tear up and burn our American Flags (Where they do it infront of Military guys and gal's who that means soemthing to and the tear up or burn it up in front of them. But your going to e

If we live in fear of publishing something then they are winning.



its their 'bad' , not surprising

yeah,, decent people risking life to try to do good just have to accept the harm OTHERS an ocean away put them in

their 'bad'



the if we fear they win bs is just that

fear is a valid part of life, sometimes fair and sometimes not

we have freedom of speech, sure, but does that mean we wouldnt let our 'fear' of retaliation stop us from posting a piece in the new york times with an opinion that the flag is a piece of crap,, for instance?

you dont think SOME americans wouldnt get violent over that? or that the paper would not CHOOSE to keep from publishing it?


or what about FEAR of walking down a dark alley butt naked with gold and jewelry on screaming IM rich and poor folks suck?

,,,we exercise our freedom of speech with common sense every day when we are considering our OWN physical well being...

why is it ok for someone ELSE to not have to use any consideration when it comes to the well being of OTHERS?



msharmony's photo
Sat 09/22/12 07:44 AM

No American, German, European or Christian is safe in any muslim majority country.

Never have been.

I don't care what Hussein thinks about offending the Pedo Mohammed. I will never apologize.

Like the video said. Try that sheite in a country where you are the minority.

PS
Cut off all money to countries who kill folks over mohammed. They keep it up, nuke 'em.


the country isnt killing folks,, radicals are

no photo
Sat 09/22/12 07:45 AM


No American, German, European or Christian is safe in any muslim majority country.

Never have been.

I don't care what Hussein thinks about offending the Pedo Mohammed. I will never apologize.

Like the video said. Try that sheite in a country where you are the minority.

PS
Cut off all money to countries who kill folks over mohammed. They keep it up, nuke 'em.


the country isnt killing folks,, radicals are

but the radicals control the country. muslim brotherhood.

msharmony's photo
Sat 09/22/12 07:46 AM



No American, German, European or Christian is safe in any muslim majority country.

Never have been.

I don't care what Hussein thinks about offending the Pedo Mohammed. I will never apologize.

Like the video said. Try that sheite in a country where you are the minority.

PS
Cut off all money to countries who kill folks over mohammed. They keep it up, nuke 'em.


the country isnt killing folks,, radicals are

but the radicals control the country. muslim brotherhood.


which country is that?

no photo
Sat 09/22/12 07:52 AM




No American, German, European or Christian is safe in any muslim majority country.

Never have been.

I don't care what Hussein thinks about offending the Pedo Mohammed. I will never apologize.

Like the video said. Try that sheite in a country where you are the minority.

PS
Cut off all money to countries who kill folks over mohammed. They keep it up, nuke 'em.


the country isnt killing folks,, radicals are

but the radicals control the country. muslim brotherhood.


which country is that?

Egypt, Libya, Hamas in Gaza, soon to be Taliban will control Afghanistan, again. Iran is controlled by Islamic fanatics. To name a few.

msharmony's photo
Sat 09/22/12 07:57 AM





No American, German, European or Christian is safe in any muslim majority country.

Never have been.

I don't care what Hussein thinks about offending the Pedo Mohammed. I will never apologize.

Like the video said. Try that sheite in a country where you are the minority.

PS
Cut off all money to countries who kill folks over mohammed. They keep it up, nuke 'em.


the country isnt killing folks,, radicals are

but the radicals control the country. muslim brotherhood.


which country is that?

Egypt, Libya, Hamas in Gaza, soon to be Taliban will control Afghanistan, again. Iran is controlled by Islamic fanatics. To name a few.



I think this is repeated propoganda,,,do you know any americans in these countries? I do,,,,,

one who recently traveled to Egypt, another who works in Afghanistan

Afghanistan is far more dangerous than Egypt, Egypt is primarily safe except in certain areas (just like America)

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