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Topic: Islamists. We don't care if you're offended,
willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Fri 09/21/12 03:14 PM
and we never will. Get used to it. Do I have a great big Amen? Boy telling it like it be. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GCXHPKhRCVg#!

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Fri 09/21/12 03:38 PM
Some Muslims Don't Get It: Freedom of Speech and the Legitimacy of Muslim Protests Freedom is an inherent value of all religions, without which no religion would have come into being, or would have flourished. Islam and Christianity are the biggest beneficiaries of that freedom. Indeed, it is the freedom of speech that has allowed Islam to flourish in Christian majority nations, and I wish Muslim majority nations reciprocate the same to Christians and others who are their minorities. A hallmark of great civilization is free speech and a two way values, live and let live. Most Americans, including American Muslims have condemned the trailer and the idiot who made it; however, it is not easy to punish the guy in our system. We are who we are because of that freedom, and are willing to defend his right to the free expression. Even the President of United States cannot do a thing about it, Google turned down his request to yank the film trailer off YouTube, and I hope the Muslim majority nations can appreciate the value we place on freedom, which is guaranteed in our constitution, a good solid enduring system of laws. So, it is not America, it was the individual who made that movie. He has a right to make that, and the others have the right not to see it. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ghouse/freedom-of-speech-and-the-legitimacy-of-muslim-protests_b_1902427.html

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48926	Fri 09/21/12 04:20 PM
. . . I hope the Muslim majority nations can appreciate the value we place on freedom . . . They don't, and that is the source of the problem.

Mingletwo2too Joined Tue 07/03/12 Posts: 1	Fri 09/21/12 05:48 PM
Guys - true Muslims would not exercise violence. These atrocities are being carried out by extremist thugs who don't follow the teaching of the Kuran It is reasonable for true Muslims to be offended by something which degrades their faith - as much as true Christians SHOULD be offended by that which insults theirs - and this is true of other faiths also. Willing2 has tried to turn his argument into a 'religious' attack by suggesting that his views would be shared by Christians (he calls for a big 'Amen') - this is unacceptable,unbiblical and rash - much the same as the reaction of the extremists that are conducting the acts of violence DO NOT make the mistake of blaming innocent parties

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Fri 09/21/12 06:18 PM
Guys - true Muslims would not exercise violence. These atrocities are being carried out by extremist thugs who don't follow the teaching of the Kuran It is reasonable for true Muslims to be offended by something which degrades their faith - as much as true Christians SHOULD be offended by that which insults theirs - and this is true of other faiths also. Willing2 has tried to turn his argument into a 'religious' attack by suggesting that his views would be shared by Christians (he calls for a big 'Amen') - this is unacceptable,unbiblical and rash - much the same as the reaction of the extremists that are conducting the acts of violence DO NOT make the mistake of blaming innocent parties There are many, millions, of your so-called true muslimes out there who are committing murder because they say they are offended. Let them jackasses get offended. BFD. Are you saying, Christians need to get to killing muslims when they offend us? Or, are you a newly made profile that has been banned?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Fri 09/21/12 06:24 PM
Guys - true Muslims would not exercise violence. These atrocities are being carried out by extremist thugs who don't follow the teaching of the Kuran It is reasonable for true Muslims to be offended by something which degrades their faith - as much as true Christians SHOULD be offended by that which insults theirs - and this is true of other faiths also. Willing2 has tried to turn his argument into a 'religious' attack by suggesting that his views would be shared by Christians (he calls for a big 'Amen') - this is unacceptable,unbiblical and rash - much the same as the reaction of the extremists that are conducting the acts of violence DO NOT make the mistake of blaming innocent parties many christians did not respond with that AMEN christians can think for ourselves too,,,and not all blindly label other religions negatively,,,

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sat 09/22/12 10:02 AM
and we never will. Get used to it. Do I have a great big Amen? Boy telling it like it be. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GCXHPKhRCVg#!

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sat 09/22/12 10:25 AM
Guys - true Muslims would not exercise violence. These atrocities are being carried out by extremist thugs who don't follow the teaching of the Kuran It is reasonable for true Muslims to be offended by something which degrades their faith - as much as true Christians SHOULD be offended by that which insults theirs - and this is true of other faiths also. Willing2 has tried to turn his argument into a 'religious' attack by suggesting that his views would be shared by Christians (he calls for a big 'Amen') - this is unacceptable,unbiblical and rash - much the same as the reaction of the extremists that are conducting the acts of violence DO NOT make the mistake of blaming innocent parties all the innocent parties that are killing people everyday because someone offended their profit? the innocent parties that are the clerics the order these nuts to do this? i say if they want to act stupid, then we should respond with even more stupidity, and start bombing there mosques...

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 09/22/12 10:28 AM
Guys - true Muslims would not exercise violence. These atrocities are being carried out by extremist thugs who don't follow the teaching of the Kuran It is reasonable for true Muslims to be offended by something which degrades their faith - as much as true Christians SHOULD be offended by that which insults theirs - and this is true of other faiths also. Willing2 has tried to turn his argument into a 'religious' attack by suggesting that his views would be shared by Christians (he calls for a big 'Amen') - this is unacceptable,unbiblical and rash - much the same as the reaction of the extremists that are conducting the acts of violence DO NOT make the mistake of blaming innocent parties all the innocent parties that are killing people everyday because someone offended their profit? the innocent parties that are the clerics the order these nuts to do this? i say if they want to act stupid, then we should respond with even more stupidity, and start bombing there mosques... should we likewise start castrating american males because of those who willingly and blatantly rape women or cheat on their spouse? or maybe, we should start cutting out the tongues of all politicians because of those who lie and the others who obviously are supporting the lie ? of course 'innocent' people arent doing the killing, but billions more 'innocent' are placed under ths same umbrella just for sharing a religious resource in common

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sat 09/22/12 10:30 AM
Guys - true Muslims would not exercise violence. These atrocities are being carried out by extremist thugs who don't follow the teaching of the Kuran It is reasonable for true Muslims to be offended by something which degrades their faith - as much as true Christians SHOULD be offended by that which insults theirs - and this is true of other faiths also. Willing2 has tried to turn his argument into a 'religious' attack by suggesting that his views would be shared by Christians (he calls for a big 'Amen') - this is unacceptable,unbiblical and rash - much the same as the reaction of the extremists that are conducting the acts of violence DO NOT make the mistake of blaming innocent parties all the innocent parties that are killing people everyday because someone offended their profit? the innocent parties that are the clerics the order these nuts to do this? i say if they want to act stupid, then we should respond with even more stupidity, and start bombing there mosques... should we likewise start castrating american males because of those who willingly and blatantly rape women or cheat on their spouse? or maybe, we should start cutting out the tongues of all politicians because of those who lie and the others who obviously are supporting the lie ? of course 'innocent' people arent doing the killing, but billions more 'innocent' are placed under ths same umbrella just for sharing a religious resource in common if they are so innocent, then why are they not trying to stop it?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sat 09/22/12 10:33 AM
Newsweek's 'MUSLIM RAGE' Cover Draws Angry Protest (PHOTO) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/17/newsweek-muslim-rage-cover_n_1890124.html?utm_hp_ref=media

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 09/22/12 10:36 AM
Guys - true Muslims would not exercise violence. These atrocities are being carried out by extremist thugs who don't follow the teaching of the Kuran It is reasonable for true Muslims to be offended by something which degrades their faith - as much as true Christians SHOULD be offended by that which insults theirs - and this is true of other faiths also. Willing2 has tried to turn his argument into a 'religious' attack by suggesting that his views would be shared by Christians (he calls for a big 'Amen') - this is unacceptable,unbiblical and rash - much the same as the reaction of the extremists that are conducting the acts of violence DO NOT make the mistake of blaming innocent parties all the innocent parties that are killing people everyday because someone offended their profit? the innocent parties that are the clerics the order these nuts to do this? i say if they want to act stupid, then we should respond with even more stupidity, and start bombing there mosques... should we likewise start castrating american males because of those who willingly and blatantly rape women or cheat on their spouse? or maybe, we should start cutting out the tongues of all politicians because of those who lie and the others who obviously are supporting the lie ? of course 'innocent' people arent doing the killing, but billions more 'innocent' are placed under ths same umbrella just for sharing a religious resource in common if they are so innocent, then why are they not trying to stop it? why do westerners, who are not THERE, continue to ASSume noone there is trying to stop it? of course, trying to stop it while you are IN it is a different animal than sending some wmd from the safety of some remote area across the ocean as was referenced in another thread,, FEAR has kept many people from action (good and bad) since time began my common sense and experience tell me there are probably many who are fearful and with much to loose who try to just bear their circumstances, and there are probably those who are risking life and limb regularly to try to CHANGE things as much as any one person can,,,,

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sat 09/22/12 10:36 AM
Guys - true Muslims would not exercise violence. These atrocities are being carried out by extremist thugs who don't follow the teaching of the Kuran It is reasonable for true Muslims to be offended by something which degrades their faith - as much as true Christians SHOULD be offended by that which insults theirs - and this is true of other faiths also. Willing2 has tried to turn his argument into a 'religious' attack by suggesting that his views would be shared by Christians (he calls for a big 'Amen') - this is unacceptable,unbiblical and rash - much the same as the reaction of the extremists that are conducting the acts of violence DO NOT make the mistake of blaming innocent parties all the innocent parties that are killing people everyday because someone offended their profit? the innocent parties that are the clerics the order these nuts to do this? i say if they want to act stupid, then we should respond with even more stupidity, and start bombing there mosques... should we likewise start castrating american males because of those who willingly and blatantly rape women or cheat on their spouse? or maybe, we should start cutting out the tongues of all politicians because of those who lie and the others who obviously are supporting the lie ? of course 'innocent' people arent doing the killing, but billions more 'innocent' are placed under ths same umbrella just for sharing a religious resource in common if they are so innocent, then why are they not trying to stop it? They are. A lot of Muslims are protesting these extremists. But you don't hear a lot about that side of it because the media is sensationalizing the radical Muslims.

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Sat 09/22/12 10:54 AM Edited by alleoops on Sat 09/22/12 10:55 AM
. . . I hope the Muslim majority nations can appreciate the value we place on freedom . . . They don't, and that is the source of the problem. Do you have any links to the source your claim?

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Sat 09/22/12 10:54 AM
and we never will. Get used to it. Do I have a great big Amen? Boy telling it like it be. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GCXHPKhRCVg#! AMEN!

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sat 09/22/12 10:57 AM
Guys - true Muslims would not exercise violence. These atrocities are being carried out by extremist thugs who don't follow the teaching of the Kuran It is reasonable for true Muslims to be offended by something which degrades their faith - as much as true Christians SHOULD be offended by that which insults theirs - and this is true of other faiths also. Willing2 has tried to turn his argument into a 'religious' attack by suggesting that his views would be shared by Christians (he calls for a big 'Amen') - this is unacceptable,unbiblical and rash - much the same as the reaction of the extremists that are conducting the acts of violence DO NOT make the mistake of blaming innocent parties all the innocent parties that are killing people everyday because someone offended their profit? the innocent parties that are the clerics the order these nuts to do this? i say if they want to act stupid, then we should respond with even more stupidity, and start bombing there mosques... should we likewise start castrating american males because of those who willingly and blatantly rape women or cheat on their spouse? or maybe, we should start cutting out the tongues of all politicians because of those who lie and the others who obviously are supporting the lie ? of course 'innocent' people arent doing the killing, but billions more 'innocent' are placed under ths same umbrella just for sharing a religious resource in common if they are so innocent, then why are they not trying to stop it? They are. A lot of Muslims are protesting these extremists. But you don't hear a lot about that side of it because the media is sensationalizing the radical Muslims. yea, right after i posted this i saw an article on yahoo that says the Libyans attacked a place where they thought the people responsible for killing the ambassador were hiding... http://news.yahoo.com/libyan-islamist-militia-swept-benghazi-bases-022901566.html?_esi=1

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sat 09/22/12 11:02 AM Edited by willing2 on Sat 09/22/12 11:03 AM
I have a great solution. Any iman who orders sheite, cut his head off. And every other extremist that takes their place. Slice off enough heads and the snake will eventually die.

Ladylid2012 Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 42269	Sat 09/22/12 11:13 AM
Very unfortunate for us all when we just don't care about others.... is why we are in the mess were in. Nobody cares anymore. Maybe we should.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 09/22/12 11:23 AM
Very unfortunate for us all when we just don't care about others.... is why we are in the mess were in. Nobody cares anymore. Maybe we should. I concur, people do need to 'care' more in general about human life however, I also believe there are plenty who DO just that but arent heard about nearly as often,,,,

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sat 09/22/12 11:40 AM
Very unfortunate for us all when we just don't care about others.... is why we are in the mess were in. Nobody cares anymore. Maybe we should. I concur, people do need to 'care' more in general about human life however, I also believe there are plenty who DO just that but arent heard about nearly as often,,,, I care about the Muslim people, but I don't care for the radicals who are claiming to be offended. I don't care about that one damn bit. People are responsible for there own feelings and there is plenty of stuff out there on the Internet to offend everyone. That does not mean we start attacking people's freedom of speech. I may be offended by what someone says but I will defend their right to say it. As for videos or movies, I don't watch it if it offends me.