1 3 Next
Topic: Problem of a doctor
Jtevans's photo
Tue 10/02/12 03:47 AM

Hi what should a married doctor do if he is asked by his patient for sex ..by a young lady in mid night in doctors room



stare at her boobs til she gets really creeped out smokin

wux's photo
Tue 10/02/12 04:36 AM
Edited by wux on Tue 10/02/12 04:36 AM


Hi what should a married doctor do if he is asked by his patient for sex ..by a young lady in mid night in doctors room



stare at her boobs til she gets really creeped out smokin


Not original... I done it millions of times. Including the smokin'.

(I'm just being jealous, man... that was a good comment.)

Hold her spleen or her kiester in your hand, shake it gently in an up-and-down motion, as if trying to guess its weight and density, then say ''I say... how much do you want for this?''

wux's photo
Tue 10/02/12 04:39 AM
Edited by wux on Tue 10/02/12 04:40 AM

Something like that could also be a set up for a law suit. Shouldn't you have a nurse present in the exam room at all times to prevent this? I thought that was routine to protect both the doctor and patient.


Never, in my 10,449 visits to doctors' offices, over a 58-year-long stretch, concluding last week so far, was there a third person present.

I am not trying to argue. I just don't understand. How can that be?

Hikerjohn's photo
Tue 10/02/12 04:50 AM
Wux,

Regarding exact words. From a biblical perspective.

I don't have anything that I can tell you regarding exact required words from the bible. I can tell you there are so many verses telling us that the intent behind our own words are far more important than the words.

And the concept of making vows is heavily covered throughout the bible.

Jesus, Paul, Moses, etc the theme didn't change. Don't make vows you don't intend to keep. That the results of breaking vows are severe. . In some places the writer suggestes Don't make vows at all.

There is significant warnings regarding what happens to us when we do. What happens to you and your character. What happens between you and those who you made a vow to and those who witness you break a promise. And how breaking any vow creates separation with you and God.

The bible warns that these are real results. Not punishments but true cause and affects. The bible gives a cure and a way to forgiveness but doesn't remove the broken vow. Just the heavenly results of the broken vow.

Keeping vows is mostly for you. Not the one you vow to. Yes you hurt others wich is bad. They can heal if they chose. But you cannot undo a broken vow. You can recommit. You learn to live with it and the pain you cause others. But it's a permanent deal. That's why The Lord warns us not to make and/ break vows. But the truth is He knew we were going to fall short here also. And that's why He made us unbreakable vows. It takes time to trust in His vows.

Now the words become infinitely important because we then believe in our own vows before we take them.

Not answered as requested. Best I could do.

Hikerjohn's photo
Tue 10/02/12 04:58 AM
Forgot to quote. Sorry.

And must learn short hand. :-/

wux's photo
Tue 10/02/12 05:13 AM

...and forsaking all others, be faithful to only you so long as we both shall live...

What part of this sentence is not clear??? It astounds me how one could take this topic and go round and round in circles asking if marriage means fidelity. It is obvious this MD does not honor fidelity or his oath as a doctor.
Commitment I guess is not the same for everyone....



You are right, young lady. I was ignorant. I did not know whethere this or any other verbiage was part of the marriage oath.

It is, as you quoted. Thank you. I withdraw my earlier comments which quesitoned the marriage oath as to include promise of fidelity or not.

I asked for references, and you provided, young lady, so thank you.

''Ye shall ask and Ye shall be given.''

wux's photo
Tue 10/02/12 05:21 AM

Wux,

Regarding exact words. From a biblical perspective.

I don't have anything that I can tell you regarding exact required words from the bible. I can tell you there are so many verses telling us that the intent behind our own words are far more important than the words.

And the concept of making vows is heavily covered throughout the bible.

Jesus, Paul, Moses, etc the theme didn't change. Don't make vows you don't intend to keep. That the results of breaking vows are severe. . In some places the writer suggestes Don't make vows at all.

There is significant warnings regarding what happens to us when we do. What happens to you and your character. What happens between you and those who you made a vow to and those who witness you break a promise. And how breaking any vow creates separation with you and God.

The bible warns that these are real results. Not punishments but true cause and affects. The bible gives a cure and a way to forgiveness but doesn't remove the broken vow. Just the heavenly results of the broken vow.

Keeping vows is mostly for you. Not the one you vow to. Yes you hurt others wich is bad. They can heal if they chose. But you cannot undo a broken vow. You can recommit. You learn to live with it and the pain you cause others. But it's a permanent deal. That's why The Lord warns us not to make and/ break vows. But the truth is He knew we were going to fall short here also. And that's why He made us unbreakable vows. It takes time to trust in His vows.

Now the words become infinitely important because we then believe in our own vows before we take them.

Not answered as requested. Best I could do.


It's your second long post, in which you are trying to proselyze me, but you keep avoiding the issue that I am after.

That pretty lady gave me the quote. I needed one line; she gave it.

What you do here, is explain the importance of vows. I do appreciate the importance of vows. I just did not know what was included in a marriage vow. Exactly, in the wording of it.

That was my only weak point, and you keep talking about what if you break a vow and how important it is not to, and under what conditions can you break it, etc. etc. which I am clear on anyhow, but you did not say the very thing, the quote of the part of the marriage vow that calls for marital fidelity.

I really don't understand you, that's the long and short of it.

I admitted to my ignorance, even from the beginning, and now my ignorance has been lifted, with no thanks to you, but to the lovely young lady who provided the line in an earlier post here.

I hope you are a security guard or you are in another job where if you make a mistake by pontificating, the superstrcture that gets built on your good work is not going to collapse.

wux's photo
Tue 10/02/12 05:25 AM
I mean, I really hate it when I ask a simple question, which requires a simple answer, and instead I am giving tomes of lectures and sermons, in the words of none of which is the answer imbedded.

Hikerjohn's photo
Tue 10/02/12 05:27 AM
Edited by Hikerjohn on Tue 10/02/12 05:30 AM
My apologies.

And she did a great job.

wux's photo
Tue 10/02/12 05:35 AM

Wux,

Regarding exact words. From a biblical perspective.

I don't have anything that I can tell you regarding exact required words from the bible. I can tell you there are so many verses telling us that the intent behind our own words are far more important than the words.

And the concept of making vows is heavily covered throughout the bible.

Jesus, Paul, Moses, etc the theme didn't change. Don't make vows you don't intend to keep. That the results of breaking vows are severe. . In some places the writer suggestes Don't make vows at all.

There is significant warnings regarding what happens to us when we do. What happens to you and your character. What happens between you and those who you made a vow to and those who witness you break a promise. And how breaking any vow creates separation with you and God.

The bible warns that these are real results. Not punishments but true cause and affects. The bible gives a cure and a way to forgiveness but doesn't remove the broken vow. Just the heavenly results of the broken vow.

Keeping vows is mostly for you. Not the one you vow to. Yes you hurt others wich is bad. They can heal if they chose. But you cannot undo a broken vow. You can recommit. You learn to live with it and the pain you cause others. But it's a permanent deal. That's why The Lord warns us not to make and/ break vows. But the truth is He knew we were going to fall short here also. And that's why He made us unbreakable vows. It takes time to trust in His vows.

Now the words become infinitely important because we then believe in our own vows before we take them.

Not answered as requested. Best I could do.


EXPLANATION (NOT REQUIRED TO READ, CAN BE IGNORED, BUT IT EXPLAIN THINGS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE THAT IS AT THE END OF THIS POST BY ME HERE)
I mean, I really hate it when I ask a simple question, which requires a simple answer, and instead I am giving tomes of lectures and sermons, in the words of none of which is the answer I seek imbedded.

Please give me enough credit to know what question to ask, and if you are about to help me, please answer that question, and not write me a book on different topics AND require me to read it under the pretext that your sermon will give me the answer I need.

Of course you are welcome to write sermons, I can`t possibly fault you for that, but please don`t tell me that your sermon covers the answer to my quesion. Unless it does, of course.

Here was a case in which I needed a hard-and-fast quote; you gave me a sermon, two actually, one each two times, which contained nothing about the line in the oath.

In fact, the oath is not in the Bible; it`s been used in services only since the early part of the seventeenth century in the English speaking world, and as such it is not Biblical, but an OATH nevertheless.

An oath is an oath is an oath, whether you invoke a promise to a god or not. It is binding, if to nothing else, but then to your conscience. I needed to know if the oath in Christian ceremonies contained a part to fidelity. It does. I did not know that. Now I do know it does.


IMPORTANT:


--------------------
Any oath is binding in my view, not because there is a connection to God or to Christianity, when it does, but because it`s an oath a person makes.
-----------------
It was not the Christian overtone I was worried about; it was the fact that I did not know whether the oath, in this case the Christian marriage oath, contained a reference to having to stay faitful.
------------------------
So there. I got my answer, thanks. I wrote all this post acta, because it irked me that you 1. disrespected my ability to know what questions to ask and 2. you made me read tomes on things that I am not interested in.

Hikerjohn's photo
Tue 10/02/12 05:44 AM
Edited by Hikerjohn on Tue 10/02/12 05:45 AM
There is no "the christsian marriage vow or oath". There are cultural and religious traditions that have formed over time wich is what you have been asking about. So I was attempting to cover the biblical principles that these traditions came from. Not a sermon my friend.

So to complete your quest, you might want to look through each country and each religious sect and start comparing cultural vows as this is really what your asking. Non of wich have any authority over the other.

This is the point I should have made based on your question. It was insensitive of me.

PacificStar48's photo
Tue 10/02/12 10:01 AM
Hmmm how is it difficult to be able to say no to and inapproriate advace of a patient?

As a Doctor you are a healer NOT a prostitute and she is treating you like a prostitute. You should be offended not comlimented by such demented behavior.

With such a confused understanding of ethics I sure hope I will not be seeing you working in a HMO near me.

1 3 Next