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Jeanniebean
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So then if cell phones interfere with communications and navigational equipment, then that could be why flight UA 93 crashed. 
I stated: ... there is a school of thought that believes they may interfere with communications and navigational equipment. And you make it into: So then if cell phones interfere with communications and navigational equipment This is the problem with most of your hypotheses and you seem unable to grasp this obvious flaw. Okay, it either interferes with communications or it doesn't. They either spent some time testing that "school of thought" or "belief" or whatever it is before making their stupid rules about people not using their devices on the plane or they didn't. They must have some logical reason for that "school of thought." Right? Or do they just go around making rules for some other reason? You have no idea, do you? |
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Edited by
HotRodDeluxe
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Sun 09/16/12 07:50 PM
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So if cell phones work fine in Australian aircraft,then why do the airlines request passengers not to use them? Because there is a school of thought that believes they may interfere with communications and navigational equipment. It is much the same as warnings posted in hospitals, but such warnings are often ignored. A school of thought... I see. In otherwords.... they don't "work fine." Ok, so I'm making up stories about receiving calls over New Zealand and on Flights from Sydney? You're are grasping at straws here and only making yourself look silly. I think you should worry about making yourself look silly. If they "work fine" then the airlines should not be telling people to shut off the phones as if it were a matter of life and death. If you are not supposed to use them in airplanes and you are doing it anyway, and the school of thought is that they might interfere with communications and navigational equipment, then you are endangering the plane and passengers because you refuse to believe them, and you don't do as you are told. Try reading and comprehending. Note I said I received calls from people on aircraft. So you did not turn off your phone. I see. Let me try this again. I received calls from people on aircraft. I was on the ground. Do you understand this? gottcha! So you are just taking their word for it that they were on a plane. I'm not saying that the people calling you were lying, but they could have been. You also don't know how high in the air they were, or if they were in the air, or how fast they were going etc. So your first hand experience is not solid evidence, but I understand now why you are inclined to believe it is possible. I am still unconvinced. To convince me, I would have to get on a Jet and take a flight and attempt to make a call myself. For me to be convinced of a thing, I need solid, sensible and credible evidence. Are you really this desperate? How about you go and do just that, and stop wasting my time? |
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So if cell phones work fine in Australian aircraft,then why do the airlines request passengers not to use them? Because there is a school of thought that believes they may interfere with communications and navigational equipment. It is much the same as warnings posted in hospitals, but such warnings are often ignored. A school of thought... I see. In otherwords.... they don't "work fine." Ok, so I'm making up stories about receiving calls over New Zealand and on Flights from Sydney? You're are grasping at straws here and only making yourself look silly. I think you should worry about making yourself look silly. If they "work fine" then the airlines should not be telling people to shut off the phones as if it were a matter of life and death. If you are not supposed to use them in airplanes and you are doing it anyway, and the school of thought is that they might interfere with communications and navigational equipment, then you are endangering the plane and passengers because you refuse to believe them, and you don't do as you are told. Try reading and comprehending. Note I said I received calls from people on aircraft. So you did not turn off your phone. I see. Let me try this again. I received calls from people on aircraft. I was on the ground. Do you understand this? gottcha! So you are just taking their word for it that they were on a plane. I'm not saying that the people calling you were lying, but they could have been. You also don't know how high in the air they were, or if they were in the air, or how fast they were going etc. So your first hand experience is not solid evidence, but I understand now why you are inclined to believe it is possible. I am still unconvinced. To convince me, I would have to get on a Jet and take a flight and attempt to make a call myself. For me to be convinced of a thing, I need solid, sensible and credible evidence. I hear that North Korea is nice this time of year or better Palestine. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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So if cell phones work fine in Australian aircraft,then why do the airlines request passengers not to use them? Because there is a school of thought that believes they may interfere with communications and navigational equipment. It is much the same as warnings posted in hospitals, but such warnings are often ignored. A school of thought... I see. In otherwords.... they don't "work fine." Ok, so I'm making up stories about receiving calls over New Zealand and on Flights from Sydney? You're are grasping at straws here and only making yourself look silly. I think you should worry about making yourself look silly. If they "work fine" then the airlines should not be telling people to shut off the phones as if it were a matter of life and death. If you are not supposed to use them in airplanes and you are doing it anyway, and the school of thought is that they might interfere with communications and navigational equipment, then you are endangering the plane and passengers because you refuse to believe them, and you don't do as you are told. Try reading and comprehending. Note I said I received calls from people on aircraft. So you did not turn off your phone. I see. Let me try this again. I received calls from people on aircraft. I was on the ground. Do you understand this? gottcha! So you are just taking their word for it that they were on a plane. I'm not saying that the people calling you were lying, but they could have been. You also don't know how high in the air they were, or if they were in the air, or how fast they were going etc. So your first hand experience is not solid evidence, but I understand now why you are inclined to believe it is possible. I am still unconvinced. To convince me, I would have to get on a Jet and take a flight and attempt to make a call myself. For me to be convinced of a thing, I need solid, sensible and credible evidence. I hear that North Korea is nice this time of year or better Palestine. I hear Iran is a paradise. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sun 09/16/12 07:45 PM
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Edited by
HotRodDeluxe
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Sun 09/16/12 07:49 PM
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So if cell phones work fine in Australian aircraft,then why do the airlines request passengers not to use them? Because there is a school of thought that believes they may interfere with communications and navigational equipment. It is much the same as warnings posted in hospitals, but such warnings are often ignored. A school of thought... I see. In otherwords.... they don't "work fine." Ok, so I'm making up stories about receiving calls over New Zealand and on Flights from Sydney? You're are grasping at straws here and only making yourself look silly. I think you should worry about making yourself look silly. If they "work fine" then the airlines should not be telling people to shut off the phones as if it were a matter of life and death. If you are not supposed to use them in airplanes and you are doing it anyway, and the school of thought is that they might interfere with communications and navigational equipment, then you are endangering the plane and passengers because you refuse to believe them, and you don't do as you are told. Try reading and comprehending. Note I said I received calls from people on aircraft. So you did not turn off your phone. I see. Let me try this again. I received calls from people on aircraft. I was on the ground. Do you understand this? gottcha! So you are just taking their word for it that they were on a plane. I'm not saying that the people calling you were lying, but they could have been. You also don't know how high in the air they were, or if they were in the air, or how fast they were going etc. So your first hand experience is not solid evidence, but I understand now why you are inclined to believe it is possible. I am still unconvinced. To convince me, I would have to get on a Jet and take a flight and attempt to make a call myself. For me to be convinced of a thing, I need solid, sensible and credible evidence. I hear that North Korea is nice this time of year or better Palestine. I'm thinking Belfast Ireland. 
Yes, that sounds nice. Pick up your friend then both of you off to beautiful Palestine, the Gaza strip. I'm sure that both of you would lose your heads there, so to speak. 
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Jeanniebean
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Sun 09/16/12 07:44 PM
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sun 09/16/12 07:44 PM
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Edited by
HotRodDeluxe
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Sun 09/16/12 07:51 PM
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Yes, that sounds nice. Pick up your friend then both of you off to beautiful Palestine, the Gaza strip. I'm sure that both of you would lose your heads there, so to speak.
I'm sure they'll be most accomodating. 
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Just FYI
Recently, however, researchers at Carnegie Mellon University concluded that cell phones and other PEDs could endanger the normal operation of critical navigation systems on aircraft. After monitoring radio emissions from portable electronics during airline flights (with an antenna and spectrum analyzer that fit into a carry-on bag), they estimate that an average of one to four cellular calls are made from the cabin during each trip–despite the ban. The researchers also determined that some of the emissions from mobile phones occurred in frequencies employed by Global Positioning System (GPS) receivers, which are increasingly vital for safe landings. In addition, the study warned that avionics that operate at non-cell phone frequencies could encounter interference when nearby wireless signals interact and generate spurious spikes in other frequency ranges. http://gigaom.com/mobile/cell_phones_rea/ |
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I can see you people have nothing intelligent to contribute to the facts. The official story was rewritten when the NORAD tapes were introduced to the 9/11 commission and given first to Michael Bronner who was also the associate producer of the movie "United 93" which faithfully portrayed the Commission's new account to which the military could not possibly have shot this flight down. For two years the official story was completely different and suggested that the military was complicit in allowing the attack to happen after a stand-down order, and they had plenty of time to shoot down flight 93, which I believe IS THE TRUE ACCOUNT. ummm... so what? the military shoots down a plane that was going to crash the white house... and, i guess you forget, there was only about twenty calls from that plane, and no one saw any planes or at least mentioned them? not one person saw a missile heading towards it? If you say "so what?" Then why would you try to argue with me about my personal feeling on the subject? The phone calls from the plane? Seriously? I can drive to the next town over and I can't get a signal with any server. You think I believe that for one second that phone calls were made from the planes? ... no 
That's a laugh. I heard those calls and they were as phony as a three dollar bill. They produced a movie for cripe sake. They can produce phone calls and altered NORAD tapes. Hey if they (the criminal Cabal) are guilty, (which I believe they are) they would do anything to cover that up. ANYTHING. I believe there is a Criminal Cabal operating in this country and this world and within our government. I believe they kill people. I believe they would stop at nothing to cover up their crimes and activities. So, no, I don't believe in any phone calls made from planes, and I don't believe the NORAD tapes are real. you don't believe anything but your fantasy world, where things only happen the way you want it to happen, with no touch of reality. they have all the recordings of the phone calls, but you don't believe it. anytime someone says anything, you don't believe it. live in your fantasy world, it's only hurting yourself, no one else. any evidence that doesn't directly say what your fantasy says is a lie to you. since nobody in the world knows the truth but you, and you have yet to prove anything about anything you say, so why do you keep posting this crap? I post this "crap" for the people who have been lied to. It is not for you. You want to believe the lies. So be it. Go ahead. So if you don't like it then you don't have to click on this thread. No, I don't believe the 9/11 Commission's new and rewritten account of 9/11. If they had not rewritten it, you guys would be in here defending the OLD story cause you just believe anything that they tell you. For TWO YEARS THE STORY WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT and people like you did not even notice or blink. Then they come in and rewrite it and absolve the Military of their complicit actions and blame everything on the FAA. And yet who in the FAA got fired or disciplined? Not a single bungling idiot. So if they are really that incompetent, then you can rest assured that anytime you want to hijack a plane, nobody will notify the Military until you crash it into a field or something. And next time you fly, try using your cell phone and see how that works out. you can use any cell phone just about anywhere, and they tell you not to use any ELECTRONIC DEVISES, not jut cell phones. They say it interferes with their instruments, not because they don't work. your fantasy world has deluded you into a point where you refuse to use any common sense when looking at this. sure the government lies, all governments do. but you take it to a point where your fantasy world takes over and starts making up stories about how YOU think they should be, regardless of any kind of truth.so whith that being said, what exactly was the military supposed to do? |
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Edited by
HotRodDeluxe
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Sun 09/16/12 08:00 PM
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Just FYI Recently, however, researchers at Carnegie Mellon University concluded that cell phones and other PEDs could endanger the normal operation of critical navigation systems on aircraft. After monitoring radio emissions from portable electronics during airline flights (with an antenna and spectrum analyzer that fit into a carry-on bag), they estimate that an average of one to four cellular calls are made from the cabin during each trip–despite the ban. The researchers also determined that some of the emissions from mobile phones occurred in frequencies employed by Global Positioning System (GPS) receivers, which are increasingly vital for safe landings. In addition, the study warned that avionics that operate at non-cell phone frequencies could encounter interference when nearby wireless signals interact and generate spurious spikes in other frequency ranges. http://gigaom.com/mobile/cell_phones_rea/ Thank you. I don't do it myself, but I've seen people make calls every time I fly. I also turn my phone off when visiting someone in hospital, as it may interfere with instruments. |
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So then if cell phones interfere with communications and navigational equipment, then that could be why flight UA 93 crashed.
I stated: ... there is a school of thought that believes they may interfere with communications and navigational equipment. And you make it into: So then if cell phones interfere with communications and navigational equipment This is the problem with most of your hypotheses and you seem unable to grasp this obvious flaw. Okay, it either interferes with communications or it doesn't. They either spent some time testing that "school of thought" or "belief" or whatever it is before making their stupid rules about people not using their devices on the plane or they didn't. They must have some logical reason for that "school of thought." Right? Or do they just go around making rules for some other reason? You have no idea, do you? No, that is why I am asking. Why would they make a rule if they had no logical reason for it? maybe so you have to pay them 6 dollars a minute to use theres? |
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