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After five years of research, students at the University of Middle Tennessee have installed a full plug-in hybrid kit in a stock 1994 Honda Accord. The setup gives between 50 and 100 percent better gas mileage with two electric motors delivering power directly to the rear wheels, leaving the engine-powered front wheels to work with little effort. The price of all the parts comes to about $3,000 and can be applied to almost any car.
Energy for the motors comes from a lithium ion phosphate battery that sits in the trunk. The battery in the research vehicle is big and ugly so it can easily transmit data, but the production version will be about “the size of a carry-on bag,” said head researcher Professor Charles Perry. The twin three-phase DC brushless motors sit in the empty interior around the rear brakes. They power the wheels directly, rather than going through the drive shaft like other hybrids. Each motor produces 200 pound-feet of torque. The setup has four patents pending, all of which will be owned by the university to fund future research. Perry said, “The whole point was to demonstrate the feasibility of adding the electrical motor to the rear wheel of the car without changing the brakes, bearings, suspension — anything mechanical.” http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/08/hybrid-conversion/ |
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Conrad_73
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Thu 09/13/12 09:51 AM
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After five years of research, students at the University of Middle Tennessee have installed a full plug-in hybrid kit in a stock 1994 Honda Accord. The setup gives between 50 and 100 percent better gas mileage with two electric motors delivering power directly to the rear wheels, leaving the engine-powered front wheels to work with little effort. The price of all the parts comes to about $3,000 and can be applied to almost any car. Energy for the motors comes from a lithium ion phosphate battery that sits in the trunk. The battery in the research vehicle is big and ugly so it can easily transmit data, but the production version will be about “the size of a carry-on bag,” said head researcher Professor Charles Perry. The twin three-phase DC brushless motors sit in the empty interior around the rear brakes. They power the wheels directly, rather than going through the drive shaft like other hybrids. Each motor produces 200 pound-feet of torque. The setup has four patents pending, all of which will be owned by the university to fund future research. Perry said, “The whole point was to demonstrate the feasibility of adding the electrical motor to the rear wheel of the car without changing the brakes, bearings, suspension — anything mechanical.” http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/08/hybrid-conversion/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery Interesting concept ! |
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It really makes me wonder why all the automakers did not come up
with this - how they could miss such an simple and straightforward approach! 
It really does sound interesting... |
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It really makes me wonder why all the automakers did not come up with this - how they could miss such an simple and straightforward approach!
It really does sound interesting... the auto industry is under the oil umbrella, i'm guessing |
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I'm guessing there was not enough of a markup.
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What an interesting idea.
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No, it was the Bilderbergers and the Trilaterals that suppressed it.
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Europe has had bolt on hybrid conversions for years, and I prefer the Edison Battery, lasts for about a hundred years, and it is much more environmentally friendly
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Europe has had bolt on hybrid conversions for years, and I prefer the Edison Battery, lasts for about a hundred years, and it is much more environmentally friendly The Edison battery does not have the kind of energy density and charging/discharging characteristics needed for this application. The orginal Edison battery was very slow to charge and could not supply much current. Researchers at Stanford have produced a faster charge/discharge version but it still does not have the energy density or ability to hold its charge for a long time without decay. 
Perry et al. have built an operational hybrid converter and demonstrated it by converting a non-hybrid verhicle successfully to a hybrid already! The Li Fe phosphate battery appears to be a great choice for this too.
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Great idea but I would think the batteries would need to be a little bigger to be truly effective. Small batteries would only help much in full time stop and go driving.
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It's MIDDLE TENNESSEE sillies....That should explain everything!!...Tennessean's love lithium ion phosphate and brushless motors!!!!...AND, all of us are very protective of our drive shafts...After all, you never know when the need for one will arise....
By the way Slow, did you get permission to start an "all boy" thread? 
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It's MIDDLE TENNESSEE sillies....That should explain everything!!...Tennessean's love lithium ion phosphate and brushless motors!!!!...AND, all of us are very protective of our drive shafts...After all, you never know when the need for one will arise....
By the way Slow, did you get permission to start an "all boy" thread?
Tell us about your "jackrabbit starts"!!! 
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I converted my car this morning.
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Did you really??? How did you do it???
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It's MIDDLE TENNESSEE sillies....That should explain everything!!...Tennessean's love lithium ion phosphate and brushless motors!!!!...AND, all of us are very protective of our drive shafts...After all, you never know when the need for one will arise....
By the way Slow, did you get permission to start an "all boy" thread?
Tell us about your "jackrabbit starts"!!!
That's personal honey, meet me behind the barn in about 10 minutes OK?
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I converted my car this morning.
 Did mine last week ....After I changed my oil and rotated my tires ....Had my neighbor come over and hold the car up wile I cranked off the lug nuts, great exercise!! ...Quicker that way too...
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It's MIDDLE TENNESSEE sillies....That should explain everything!!...Tennessean's love lithium ion phosphate and brushless motors!!!!...AND, all of us are very protective of our drive shafts...After all, you never know when the need for one will arise....
By the way Slow, did you get permission to start an "all boy" thread?
Tell us about your "jackrabbit starts"!!!
That's personal honey, meet me behind the barn in about 10 minutes OK?
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The Edison battery does not have the kind of energy density and charging/discharging characteristics needed for this application. The orginal Edison battery was very slow to charge and could not supply much current. Researchers at Stanford have produced a faster charge/discharge version but it still does not have the energy density or ability to hold its charge for a long time without decay. I still like a battery that I'll never have to replace. I had one for many years, bought it off a Railroad guy. The RR had discarded it for it's age, and that battery outlasted several vehicles and was always dependable. Started even on the coldest days, well below zero, and would crank forever. Had her for about 15 years. Sold it with my 66 Ford and have regretted it ever since. Building an Electric at the moment, and she will be Edison powered, and I will be building the batteries myself, considering the insane prices they want for them. Do you have a link to that Stanford project? Would love to read it. Leigh2154, napped the night away out behind the barn, even brought night film, you never showed? Ah, just all talk... |
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The Edison battery does not have the kind of energy density and charging/discharging characteristics needed for this application. The orginal Edison battery was very slow to charge and could not supply much current. Researchers at Stanford have produced a faster charge/discharge version but it still does not have the energy density or ability to hold its charge for a long time without decay. I still like a battery that I'll never have to replace. I had one for many years, bought it off a Railroad guy. The RR had discarded it for it's age, and that battery outlasted several vehicles and was always dependable. Started even on the coldest days, well below zero, and would crank forever. Had her for about 15 years. Sold it with my 66 Ford and have regretted it ever since. Building an Electric at the moment, and she will be Edison powered, and I will be building the batteries myself, considering the insane prices they want for them. Do you have a link to that Stanford project? Would love to read it. Leigh2154, napped the night away out behind the barn, even brought night film, you never showed? Ah, just all talk... http://news.stanford.edu/pr/2012/pr-ultrafast-edison-battery-062612.html
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The Edison battery does not have the kind of energy density and charging/discharging characteristics needed for this application. The orginal Edison battery was very slow to charge and could not supply much current. Researchers at Stanford have produced a faster charge/discharge version but it still does not have the energy density or ability to hold its charge for a long time without decay. I still like a battery that I'll never have to replace. I had one for many years, bought it off a Railroad guy. The RR had discarded it for it's age, and that battery outlasted several vehicles and was always dependable. Started even on the coldest days, well below zero, and would crank forever. Had her for about 15 years. Sold it with my 66 Ford and have regretted it ever since. Building an Electric at the moment, and she will be Edison powered, and I will be building the batteries myself, considering the insane prices they want for them. Do you have a link to that Stanford project? Would love to read it. Leigh2154, napped the night away out behind the barn, even brought night film, you never showed? Ah, just all talk... Wait a minute Bxy!!! ...Which barn???....Don't tell me you went to the red barn at the bottom of the hill, you know I always go to the white barn at the top of the hill...You know, the one with the "Black Horse & The Cherry Tree"....
http://youtu.be/HYEU91d8ngc |
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