Topic: The Barack Obama William Ayers Connection: Chicago Annenberg
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Sun 09/09/12 05:19 PM
Edited by alleoops on Sun 09/09/12 05:21 PM
In the best tradition of Bill Clinton's famous declaration that the answer to the question of whether or not he was having an affair with Monica depended on "what the definition of is is," Obama was clearly splitting hairs and concealing the truth when he said that William Ayers was "just a guy who lives in my neighborhood."
The records of the administration of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) released last week by the University of Illinois show that the Ayers-Obama connection was, in fact, an intimate collaboration and that it led to the only executive or administrative experience in Obama's life.

After Walter Annenberg's foundation offered several hundred million dollars to American public schools in the mid-'90s, William Ayers applied for $50 million for Chicago. The purpose of his application was to secure funds to "raise political consciousness" in Chicago's public schools.
After he won the grant, Ayers' group chose Barack Obama to distribute the money. Between 1995 and 1999, Obama distributed the $50 million and raised another $60 million from other civic groups to augment it. In doing so, he was following Ayers' admonition to grant the funds to "external" organizations, like American Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), to pair with schools and conduct programs to radicalize the students and politicize them.

Reading, math and science achievement tests counted for little in the ACA grants, but the school's success in preaching a radical political agenda determined how much money it got.

Barack Obama should have run screaming at the sight of Ayers and his wife, Bernadette Dohrn. Ayers has admitted bombing the U.S. Capitol building and the Pentagon, and his wife was sent to prison for failing to cooperate in solving the robbery of a Brink's armored car in which two police were killed. Far from remorse, Ayers told The New York Times, in September 2001, that he "wished he could have done more." Ayers only avoided conviction when the evidence against him turned out to be contained in illegally obtained wiretaps by the FBI. He was, in fact, guilty as sin.

That Obama should ally himself with Ayers is almost beyond understanding. The former terrorist had not repented his views, and the education grants he got were expressly designed to further them.
http://www.nationalledger.com/news-tech/the-barack-obama-william-ayers-145570.shtml#.UE0v-a4ZTKQ

Most of the money has gone unaccounted for.

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Sun 09/09/12 11:25 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Sun 09/09/12 11:28 PM

In the best tradition of Bill Clinton's famous declaration that the answer to the question of whether or not he was having an affair with Monica depended on "what the definition of is is," Obama was clearly splitting hairs and concealing the truth when he said that William Ayers was "just a guy who lives in my neighborhood."
The records of the administration of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) released last week by the University of Illinois show that the Ayers-Obama connection was, in fact, an intimate collaboration and that it led to the only executive or administrative experience in Obama's life.

After Walter Annenberg's foundation offered several hundred million dollars to American public schools in the mid-'90s, William Ayers applied for $50 million for Chicago. The purpose of his application was to secure funds to "raise political consciousness" in Chicago's public schools.
After he won the grant, Ayers' group chose Barack Obama to distribute the money. Between 1995 and 1999, Obama distributed the $50 million and raised another $60 million from other civic groups to augment it. In doing so, he was following Ayers' admonition to grant the funds to "external" organizations, like American Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), to pair with schools and conduct programs to radicalize the students and politicize them.

Reading, math and science achievement tests counted for little in the ACA grants, but the school's success in preaching a radical political agenda determined how much money it got.

Barack Obama should have run screaming at the sight of Ayers and his wife, Bernadette Dohrn. Ayers has admitted bombing the U.S. Capitol building and the Pentagon, and his wife was sent to prison for failing to cooperate in solving the robbery of a Brink's armored car in which two police were killed. Far from remorse, Ayers told The New York Times, in September 2001, that he "wished he could have done more." Ayers only avoided conviction when the evidence against him turned out to be contained in illegally obtained wiretaps by the FBI. He was, in fact, guilty as sin.

That Obama should ally himself with Ayers is almost beyond understanding. The former terrorist had not repented his views, and the education grants he got were expressly designed to further them.
http://www.nationalledger.com/news-tech/the-barack-obama-william-ayers-145570.shtml#.UE0v-a4ZTKQ

Most of the money has gone unaccounted for.


Obama was brought up in the gangland political way and also the Democratic Parties style of politics.

You have to remember the Democrats have had very long and strong ties to some of the most vicious criminals in history. They have strong ties to the DNC helping JFK push to victory in the 60's, Chicago Mob Boss, Sam Giancana and Florida Mob Boss Santo Trafficante Jr. had unrestricted access to President Kennedy on several occasions in the plotting to kill Castro.

Then look at Chicago Mayor Richard Daley and Aldermann Solos's giving Mobsters awards like Angelo J. "The Hook" LaPietra, a made member and leader in the Chicago Outfit (A member of the Commission). Daley and Solos presented LaPietra a plaque and reward for his leadership and commitment to the community. It recognized Angelo and the Italian Club as a decision maker and a go-to person when decisions needed to have an influence. LaPietra was given the nickname "The Hook" due to the way he murdered his victims. He would take his victim—bound and gagged—and hang him on a meat hook, (piercing the victim's rib cage with the meat hook) and then torture him to death with a blow-torch.

This is the way Barry was taught to do bisiness and the type of people Barry was taught it was right to do business with. These people make Ayers look like an amateur. Not to mention The Outfit connected Rezko (A close Obama friend) and also Saddam's former Arms Dealer (Who happened to be friends with Obama and help finance his real estate transaction)

The Democrats and the Chicago Gang Land Politics Barry was brought up in is sure Change we CAN'T believe in!

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Mon 09/10/12 12:08 AM
so, wait

while OBAMA was a director at CAC, they offered a grant and Ayers proposal won the grant


THEN the CAC rewarded and distributed the grant

and, OBAMA being a part of the CAC is therefore AYERS best friend,,,??


interesting logic

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Mon 09/10/12 12:21 AM

so, wait

while OBAMA was a director at CAC, they offered a grant and Ayers proposal won the grant


THEN the CAC rewarded and distributed the grant

and, OBAMA being a part of the CAC is therefore AYERS best friend,,,??


interesting logic


Who happens to hold fundraisers for, worked closely with. Your golden boy isn't so golden. There is more stink on Barry then in all of the pig farms in this country.

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Mon 09/10/12 12:23 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Mon 09/10/12 12:24 AM
Only in Chicago do known domestic terrorists (who organized bombing campaigns and built bombs and whos bombs killed people and did hundreds of millions in damage and who said they didn't do enough) throw fundraisers for political candidates.

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Mon 09/10/12 12:36 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 09/10/12 12:38 AM


so, wait

while OBAMA was a director at CAC, they offered a grant and Ayers proposal won the grant


THEN the CAC rewarded and distributed the grant

and, OBAMA being a part of the CAC is therefore AYERS best friend,,,??


interesting logic


Who happens to hold fundraisers for, worked closely with. Your golden boy isn't so golden. There is more stink on Barry then in all of the pig farms in this country.



hate to tell you, people do business with people they arent close to at all

thats why they call it BUSINESS

tell me he dated his sister or something and I would see the potential for a close connection


that they worked on a board that was awarding GRANTS to schools, doesnt make them anything but coworkers at best


my own mother worked on boards and committees with others for years that she personally didnt LIKE at all but who were good at their jobs,,,and Im sure thats pretty standard in any occupation

and I and most I know have worked closely with people we had no personal close connection to outside of our jobs

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/10/12 01:16 AM



so, wait

while OBAMA was a director at CAC, they offered a grant and Ayers proposal won the grant


THEN the CAC rewarded and distributed the grant

and, OBAMA being a part of the CAC is therefore AYERS best friend,,,??


interesting logic


Who happens to hold fundraisers for, worked closely with. Your golden boy isn't so golden. There is more stink on Barry then in all of the pig farms in this country.



hate to tell you, people do business with people they arent close to at all

thats why they call it BUSINESS

tell me he dated his sister or something and I would see the potential for a close connection


that they worked on a board that was awarding GRANTS to schools, doesnt make them anything but coworkers at best


my own mother worked on boards and committees with others for years that she personally didnt LIKE at all but who were good at their jobs,,,and Im sure thats pretty standard in any occupation

and I and most I know have worked closely with people we had no personal close connection to outside of our jobs


You kill me, you would defend this clown no matter what he did it wouldn't matter if it was murder, rape, child abuse, kickbacks whatever it is. Let me fill you in on a little secret why people have no respect for Obama and his die hard supporters. It is because they think he can do no wrong and make excuses for everything he does. The guy needs to be a man for once in his life and start owning up to things instead of making excuses and passing the blame.

EVERYONE makes mistakes and does stupid crap (Granted he does a lot more and makes a lot more mistakes then most) but they own oup to it and people respect them.

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Mon 09/10/12 01:20 AM
In anyother city in the world if ANY polititian had a fundraiser thrown for them by a KNOWN domestic terrorist their career would be done and probably be put in jail.

but Obama is the first African American president and the guy can give a speech and well he is a produce of the Chicago political machine controlled by the mafia and other criminals, so he gets a pass I guess. slaphead

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/10/12 01:22 AM




so, wait

while OBAMA was a director at CAC, they offered a grant and Ayers proposal won the grant


THEN the CAC rewarded and distributed the grant

and, OBAMA being a part of the CAC is therefore AYERS best friend,,,??


interesting logic


Who happens to hold fundraisers for, worked closely with. Your golden boy isn't so golden. There is more stink on Barry then in all of the pig farms in this country.



hate to tell you, people do business with people they arent close to at all

thats why they call it BUSINESS

tell me he dated his sister or something and I would see the potential for a close connection


that they worked on a board that was awarding GRANTS to schools, doesnt make them anything but coworkers at best


my own mother worked on boards and committees with others for years that she personally didnt LIKE at all but who were good at their jobs,,,and Im sure thats pretty standard in any occupation

and I and most I know have worked closely with people we had no personal close connection to outside of our jobs


You kill me, you would defend this clown no matter what he did it wouldn't matter if it was murder, rape, child abuse, kickbacks whatever it is. Let me fill you in on a little secret why people have no respect for Obama and his die hard supporters. It is because they think he can do no wrong and make excuses for everything he does. The guy needs to be a man for once in his life and start owning up to things instead of making excuses and passing the blame.

EVERYONE makes mistakes and does stupid crap (Granted he does a lot more and makes a lot more mistakes then most) but they own oup to it and people respect them.



nice strawman,, since he hasnt been ever accused or charged with murder, rape, or child abuse

I know he can do wrong, I know he can make mistakes, on the contrary, I debate with those who act like he shouldnt be allowed to ever make bad choices or let his past be in his past

He seems like quite the MAN to me because of how he carries himself, how he has been committed to his wife, and how his children have turned out so far. That some feel his 'manhood' is at question because he happened to work towards a high office in which he doesnt do everything THEY want him to do,,,is a personal issue seems to me.

What 'mistakes' have the past presidents 'owned up' to that this president deserves such special scrutiny for focusing on strengths?


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Mon 09/10/12 01:32 AM

In anyother city in the world if ANY polititian had a fundraiser thrown for them by a KNOWN domestic terrorist their career would be done and probably be put in jail.

but Obama is the first African American president and the guy can give a speech and well he is a produce of the Chicago political machine controlled by the mafia and other criminals, so he gets a pass I guess. slaphead



people arent placed in jail for knowing people 22years after they have been charged for a crime in which CHARGES ARE DROPPED

its also not illegal to hold a fundraiser at a private citizens home

people in Chicago, apparently, didnt care about what a man had done 22 years earlier as much as what he did for their CITY at THAT TIME

so AT THAT TIME, the 'association' with Ayers would also not have been seen as a negative


He got no 'pass' , he represented intelligence and community minded leadership

whereas the other candidate represented a questionable prisoner of war, adulterer who abandoned an ill wife for a younger one, and then CHOSE a younger attractive running mate who had no clue about the office she was running for


2008 was a win for Obama, partly because of his own words and intelligence and vision, and partly because of the failed strategy of his opponent

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Mon 09/10/12 06:54 AM
Ayers is guilty.
He just got off on a screw-up.

Although never convicted of any crime, he told the New York Times in September 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."

Hussein knew who and what he was doing dealings with.

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Mon 09/10/12 08:29 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 09/10/12 08:30 AM

Ayers is guilty.
He just got off on a screw-up.

Although never convicted of any crime, he told the New York Times in September 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."

Hussein knew who and what he was doing dealings with.


yes, the one who WON the grant......and won the citys award for citizen of the year to boot,,,lol


I dont assume, in distributing grant money to schools, there was alot of talk about Ayers history or feelings from TWO decades before when barack was only EIGHT YEARS OLD


or that, had their been talk, there would be any LEGAL grounds for discontinuing the grant prize that benefitted the SCHOOLS and not ayers directly...


heck, I didnt know who ayers was(historically speaking) before all this hoopla, by the time he got involved with the grants he had become an acclaimed professor in Chicago,

so why do people assume everyone else knew his DISTANT past?


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Mon 09/10/12 11:27 AM


Ayers is guilty.
He just got off on a screw-up.

Although never convicted of any crime, he told the New York Times in September 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."

Hussein knew who and what he was doing dealings with.


yes, the one who WON the grant......and won the citys award for citizen of the year to boot,,,lol


I dont assume, in distributing grant money to schools, there was alot of talk about Ayers history or feelings from TWO decades before when barack was only EIGHT YEARS OLD


or that, had their been talk, there would be any LEGAL grounds for discontinuing the grant prize that benefitted the SCHOOLS and not ayers directly...


heck, I didnt know who ayers was(historically speaking) before all this hoopla, by the time he got involved with the grants he had become an acclaimed professor in Chicago,

so why do people assume everyone else knew his DISTANT past?




yea, Barack, AKA Barry Soetoro, didn't know. He was still in Kenya when all that stuff happened. Or was it Indonesia? Heck, Barry doesn't even know his own birthday for god's sake. give him a break. laugh

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/10/12 03:47 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 09/10/12 03:50 PM



Ayers is guilty.
He just got off on a screw-up.

Although never convicted of any crime, he told the New York Times in September 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."

Hussein knew who and what he was doing dealings with.


yes, the one who WON the grant......and won the citys award for citizen of the year to boot,,,lol


I dont assume, in distributing grant money to schools, there was alot of talk about Ayers history or feelings from TWO decades before when barack was only EIGHT YEARS OLD


or that, had their been talk, there would be any LEGAL grounds for discontinuing the grant prize that benefitted the SCHOOLS and not ayers directly...


heck, I didnt know who ayers was(historically speaking) before all this hoopla, by the time he got involved with the grants he had become an acclaimed professor in Chicago,

so why do people assume everyone else knew his DISTANT past?




yea, Barack, AKA Barry Soetoro, didn't know. He was still in Kenya when all that stuff happened. Or was it Indonesia? Heck, Barry doesn't even know his own birthday for god's sake. give him a break. laugh



why would he know what a man who won a grant had done TWENTY TWO years prior?

and once he knew, that the charges were dropped and this man was a well reputed professor and citizen of the year in chicago, what should he have done?

refused to continue working on a program that gave grant money to schools because he didnt approve of the DISTANT history of someone else working on the program?






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Mon 09/10/12 04:00 PM




Ayers is guilty.
He just got off on a screw-up.

Although never convicted of any crime, he told the New York Times in September 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."

Hussein knew who and what he was doing dealings with.


yes, the one who WON the grant......and won the citys award for citizen of the year to boot,,,lol


I dont assume, in distributing grant money to schools, there was alot of talk about Ayers history or feelings from TWO decades before when barack was only EIGHT YEARS OLD


or that, had their been talk, there would be any LEGAL grounds for discontinuing the grant prize that benefitted the SCHOOLS and not ayers directly...


heck, I didnt know who ayers was(historically speaking) before all this hoopla, by the time he got involved with the grants he had become an acclaimed professor in Chicago,

so why do people assume everyone else knew his DISTANT past?




yea, Barack, AKA Barry Soetoro, didn't know. He was still in Kenya when all that stuff happened. Or was it Indonesia? Heck, Barry doesn't even know his own birthday for god's sake. give him a break. laugh



why would he know what a man who won a grant had done TWENTY TWO years prior?

and once he knew, that the charges were dropped and this man was a well reputed professor and citizen of the year in chicago, what should he have done?

refused to continue working on a program that gave grant money to schools because he didnt approve of the DISTANT history of someone else working on the program?




and the beat goes on....

Lpdon's photo
Tue 09/11/12 05:35 PM




Ayers is guilty.
He just got off on a screw-up.

Although never convicted of any crime, he told the New York Times in September 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."

Hussein knew who and what he was doing dealings with.


yes, the one who WON the grant......and won the citys award for citizen of the year to boot,,,lol


I dont assume, in distributing grant money to schools, there was alot of talk about Ayers history or feelings from TWO decades before when barack was only EIGHT YEARS OLD


or that, had their been talk, there would be any LEGAL grounds for discontinuing the grant prize that benefitted the SCHOOLS and not ayers directly...


heck, I didnt know who ayers was(historically speaking) before all this hoopla, by the time he got involved with the grants he had become an acclaimed professor in Chicago,

so why do people assume everyone else knew his DISTANT past?




yea, Barack, AKA Barry Soetoro, didn't know. He was still in Kenya when all that stuff happened. Or was it Indonesia? Heck, Barry doesn't even know his own birthday for god's sake. give him a break. laugh



why would he know what a man who won a grant had done TWENTY TWO years prior?

and once he knew, that the charges were dropped and this man was a well reputed professor and citizen of the year in chicago, what should he have done?

refused to continue working on a program that gave grant money to schools because he didnt approve of the DISTANT history of someone else working on the program?








Citizen of the year in Chicago isn't saying much since they give that to made members of the Mafia who brutally torture and kill people. So it's actually fitting that he gets awards there and is a professor there and fitting that the most corrupt President in history is from there.

msharmony's photo
Wed 09/12/12 12:33 AM





Ayers is guilty.
He just got off on a screw-up.

Although never convicted of any crime, he told the New York Times in September 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."

Hussein knew who and what he was doing dealings with.


yes, the one who WON the grant......and won the citys award for citizen of the year to boot,,,lol


I dont assume, in distributing grant money to schools, there was alot of talk about Ayers history or feelings from TWO decades before when barack was only EIGHT YEARS OLD


or that, had their been talk, there would be any LEGAL grounds for discontinuing the grant prize that benefitted the SCHOOLS and not ayers directly...


heck, I didnt know who ayers was(historically speaking) before all this hoopla, by the time he got involved with the grants he had become an acclaimed professor in Chicago,

so why do people assume everyone else knew his DISTANT past?




yea, Barack, AKA Barry Soetoro, didn't know. He was still in Kenya when all that stuff happened. Or was it Indonesia? Heck, Barry doesn't even know his own birthday for god's sake. give him a break. laugh



why would he know what a man who won a grant had done TWENTY TWO years prior?

and once he knew, that the charges were dropped and this man was a well reputed professor and citizen of the year in chicago, what should he have done?

refused to continue working on a program that gave grant money to schools because he didnt approve of the DISTANT history of someone else working on the program?








Citizen of the year in Chicago isn't saying much since they give that to made members of the Mafia who brutally torture and kill people. So it's actually fitting that he gets awards there and is a professor there and fitting that the most corrupt President in history is from there.


laugh laugh laugh


most corrupt,, thats good

like calling britney spears the most talented ,,,,HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA