Topic: Obama Will Lose in a Landslide
Ruth34611's photo
Sun 09/02/12 08:10 PM




But they will never let that happen. They would kill him first.


Yes, they would.


huh Just who are they? Please be specific about their identities, and please cite verifiable sources.


No, I'm not going to debate what's been debated a thousand times before here. Feel free to ignore my posts if you disagree. I do not care who believes what anymore.

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 09/02/12 08:16 PM





But they will never let that happen. They would kill him first.


Yes, they would.


huh Just who are they? Please be specific about their identities, and please cite verifiable sources.


No, I'm not going to debate what's been debated a thousand times before here. Feel free to ignore my posts if you disagree. I do not care who believes what anymore.


If you refuse to answer my question, then perhaps someone else will.

s1owhand's photo
Sun 09/02/12 08:18 PM



I think Obama will win. However, it's neither here nor there who wins between he and Romney. They are both working for the same war mongering financiers who have all the real power. I am considering not voting as a protest against the system.


That is not an effective protest.

You would be better off to vote 3rd party or write-in to protest.
Otherwise it is just apathy.

But they don't answer to war mongering financiers. That is just
extremely overlysimplistic conspiro-talk. These guys have to be
elected in a general election and they will answer to the voters - each and every one of us. That is how it works.


I'm sorry you are still blind to the truth.

And throwing the "conspiracy" word out there doesn't bother me. Day after day it's used as an insult around here. So, it doesn't have much affect on me anymore.


I wasn't trying to insult you. Just trying to point out that in
our system of government the financiers cannot run the show by
themselves. Otherwise Obama never would have been elected in the
first place!

laugh

I feel that people use the fact that there are powerful lobbies to
justify apathy and wallow in the unjustified excuse of helplessness
when the truth is they have a vote and ability to be involved and
organized just like anyone else. Of course it is easier to just
pretend to be powerless, whine and go have a nap.

sad

But I'm not sleepy...it's too early yet!

drinker

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 09/02/12 08:18 PM






But they will never let that happen. They would kill him first.


Yes, they would.


huh Just who are they? Please be specific about their identities, and please cite verifiable sources.


No, I'm not going to debate what's been debated a thousand times before here. Feel free to ignore my posts if you disagree. I do not care who believes what anymore.


If you refuse to answer my question, then perhaps someone else will.


Perhaps.

s1owhand's photo
Sun 09/02/12 08:21 PM

Romney will win election, state-by-state study predicts

An analysis from the University of Colorado that has correctly predicted the outcome of presidential elections since 1980 is forecasting Mitt Romney as the winner this year.
Political science professors Kenneth Bickers and Michael Berry found that the ailing economy spells trouble for the president's re-election bid. The professors conduct a state-by-state analysis, incorporating economic data such as unemployment figures.
The results of their analysis show that Obama will win 218 votes in the electoral college, short of the 270 that he would need to be re-elected.
While their study focuses on the electoral college, the political scientists predict Romney, the presumptive Republican candidate, will win 52.9 percent of the popular vote compared with 47.1 for Obama when considering only the two major political parties.
The economy is a main driver in elections, said Bickers. "If the economy were just average, we would be forecasting Obama to win," Bickers said. "But the economy is below average, and he is struggling."
Bickers said this election cycle has some parallels with 1980 -- a period when the economy was slumping and inflation was skyrocketing -- and voters chose Republican Ronald Reagan over Democratic incumbent President Jimmy Carter.
Bickers said Obama risks losing almost all of the states now considered swing states, including Colorado, North Carolina, Virginia, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida.
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The CU model has accurately predicted the winner for the last eight presidential elections. The study will be published this month in "PS: Political Science & Politics," a peer-reviewed journal of the American Political Science Association. The CU study will be among about a dozen election prediction models.
The professors provide some caveats that could affect their forecast, including the time frame the economic data used in the study was collected and close tallies in some states. The data was taken five months in advance of the Nov. 6 election, and the professors plan to update it with more current economic data next month.
"As scholars and pundits well know, each election has unique elements that could lead one or more states to behave in ways in a particular election that the model is unable to correctly predict," Berry said in a news release.

http://www.mercurynews.com/elections/ci_21382461/romney-will-win-election-state-by-state-study




Interesting and at odds with the odds. Which is even more interesting....

drinker
waving


Ruth34611's photo
Sun 09/02/12 08:21 PM

Of course it is easier to just
pretend to be powerless, whine and go have a nap.



huh

Thank goodness you weren't trying to insult me.

s1owhand's photo
Sun 09/02/12 08:25 PM


I wasn't trying to insult you. Just trying to point out that in
our system of government the financiers cannot run the show by
themselves. Otherwise Obama never would have been elected in the
first place!

laugh

I feel that people use the fact that there are powerful lobbies to
justify apathy and wallow in the unjustified excuse of helplessness
when the truth is they have a vote and ability to be involved and
organized just like anyone else. Of course it is easier to just
pretend to be powerless, whine and go have a nap.



huh

Thank goodness you weren't trying to insult me.


That comment is not about you. I think that people in general are
too apathetic. You do not seem to be so apathetic!

flowerforyou

no photo
Sun 09/02/12 10:45 PM

I think Obama will win. However, it's neither here nor there who wins between he and Romney. They are both working for the same war mongering financiers who have all the real power. I am considering not voting as a protest against the system.



I am not voting. I don't want to lift a finger to legitimize their idea of a fair democracy, which no longer exists.

I don't consider it to be a protest, because quiet frankly nobody gives a tinkers damn if I vote or not, least of all the candidates.

The Corporation will elect the person they decide to elect via the electoral college which boils down to three votes in D.C.

Business is business, and I will mind my own...


s1owhand's photo
Mon 09/03/12 12:15 AM


I think Obama will win. However, it's neither here nor there who wins between he and Romney. They are both working for the same war mongering financiers who have all the real power. I am considering not voting as a protest against the system.



I am not voting. I don't want to lift a finger to legitimize their idea of a fair democracy, which no longer exists.

I don't consider it to be a protest, because quiet frankly nobody gives a tinkers damn if I vote or not, least of all the candidates.

The Corporation will elect the person they decide to elect via the electoral college which boils down to three votes in D.C.

Business is business, and I will mind my own...




Hahahahahahaaaaa!

The Corporation!! It is an EEEVIL plot!
Our Democracy is a fraud - just a pretense.

There we go!! Woot!

Might as well go back to having a monarchy.

laugh

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/03/12 01:32 AM

Political Oddsmaker Says Obama Will Lose in a Landslide

A political oddsmaker says Barack Obama will lose the election this year to Mitt Romney in a landslide.
Agreed.
Wayne Allyn Root at Townhall reported:

As an oddsmaker with a pretty remarkable track record of picking political races, I play no favorites. I simply use common sense to call them as I see them. Back in late December I released my New Years Predictions. I predicted back then- before a single GOP primary had been held, with Romney trailing for months to almost every GOP competitor from Rick Perry to Herman Cain to Newt- that Romney would easily rout his competition to win the GOP nomination by a landslide. I also predicted that the Presidential race between Obama and Romney would be very close until election day. But that on election day Romney would win by a landslide similar to Reagan-Carter in 1980.

Understanding history, today I am even more convinced of a resounding Romney victory. 32 years ago at this moment in time, Reagan was losing by 9 points to Carter. Romney is right now running even in polls. So why do most pollsters give Obama the edge?
First, most pollsters are missing one ingredient- common sense. Here is my gut instinct. Not one American who voted for McCain 4 years ago will switch to Obama. Not one in all the land. But many millions of people who voted for an unknown Obama 4 years ago are angry, disillusioned, turned off, or scared about the future. Voters know Obama now- and that is a bad harbinger.


I agree but Romney didn't win in a landslide and Santorum did have a good edge on him.

Also I think a different Republican candidate would be much stronger then Romney and have a better outcome then Romney but I still believe Romney will win. I don't think any of the serious Republican contenders want to face an incumbent because if they by chance did lose (mostly due to voter fraud) it would hurt their chances in 2016.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/03/12 01:34 AM

That is not good news.

Here is the butterfly effect:

If the polls are consistently pointing to Obama loosing, then the only way to keep him in power (and they want him to stay in power in a bad way) --will be a major world crisis like world war III or a war with Iran.

During times of war, the Incumbent usually always wins. Obama will declare war with Iran after some staged false flag event and...then..

...Complete chaos in the Middle east, and it will be taken over (given to) the Muslim Brotherhood.

America will no longer honor their agreement to buy Oil from the Saudi's and the agreement will be broken about only buying oil with the dollar and the dollar will get dumped as the reserve currency.

Stalks will fall. People who have any measure of wealth will loose it. The dollar will be so inflated people will not have enough to buy the bare essentials. Cities will bankrupt, services will stop.


This is what the Elite want to happen. Then they can step in and offer to save everyone by issuing a new currency. People will have to start from scratch and live under the thumb of the Elite if they accept their terms.









Actually they are saying Obama is trying to prolong the Iran issue until after the election because of Israel or the US strike Iran it will be a black eye for Obama and peoples confidence in Obama because they believe Romney would deal with the situation better.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/03/12 01:36 AM


The promble is not coming from our President., the promble is that we have a do noting Republican control congress.



No, the House of Representatives is majority Republicans. The Senate is majority Democrats. Neither party controls Congress. Please read and use spell correct before making comments. :smile:


They also don't have enough to override a veto or force a bill to go through.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/03/12 01:39 AM




But they will never let that happen. They would kill him first.


Yes, they would.


huh Just who are they? Please be specific about their identities, and please cite verifiable sources.


I am guessing the conspiracy people will say "They" will either be the Men in Black, the Rothchilds, Illuminati or an Alien conspiracy.

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/03/12 08:04 AM



The promble is not coming from our President., the promble is that we have a do noting Republican control congress.



No, the House of Representatives is majority Republicans. The Senate is majority Democrats. Neither party controls Congress. Please read and use spell correct before making comments. :smile:


They also don't have enough to override a veto or force a bill to go through.


they do have 'stalling' techniques, called filibusters

the longer and more often they stall, the less they actually get done

,,thus,,, 'the do nothing' congress



Throughout the 1990s, there were, on average, about 29 filibusters per congressional session. This number is ever increasing: there were 32 filibusters in the 107th Congress, 27 in the 108th, and 36 in the 109th. In the 110th Congress, there were approximately 52 filibusters — a 44 percent spike from the prior session. The current Senate hit its “golden” 50th filibuster in mid-April of this year

http://www.brennancenter.org/content/section/category/filibuster




if our congress would grow up and work together, we would see quicker progress

isntead, lifetime politicians sit back and boast about their individual 'accomplishments' while laying all blame for anything not accomplished (by congress) on the President



no photo
Mon 09/03/12 11:17 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 09/03/12 11:27 AM




But they will never let that happen. They would kill him first.


Yes, they would.


huh Just who are they? Please be specific about their identities, and please cite verifiable sources.



Seriously? You don't know who "they" are?

laugh laugh laugh laugh

Here is the best answer to that question:

The Large Families that rule the world

http://english.pravda.ru/business/finance/18-10-2011/119355-The_Large_Families_that_rule_the_world-0/


You can know with certainty, that when they want someone dead, that someone will end up dead.













no photo
Mon 09/03/12 11:21 AM


That is not good news.

Here is the butterfly effect:

If the polls are consistently pointing to Obama loosing, then the only way to keep him in power (and they want him to stay in power in a bad way) --will be a major world crisis like world war III or a war with Iran.

During times of war, the Incumbent usually always wins. Obama will declare war with Iran after some staged false flag event and...then..

...Complete chaos in the Middle east, and it will be taken over (given to) the Muslim Brotherhood.

America will no longer honor their agreement to buy Oil from the Saudi's and the agreement will be broken about only buying oil with the dollar and the dollar will get dumped as the reserve currency.

Stalks will fall. People who have any measure of wealth will loose it. The dollar will be so inflated people will not have enough to buy the bare essentials. Cities will bankrupt, services will stop.


This is what the Elite want to happen. Then they can step in and offer to save everyone by issuing a new currency. People will have to start from scratch and live under the thumb of the Elite if they accept their terms.









Actually they are saying Obama is trying to prolong the Iran issue until after the election because of Israel or the US strike Iran it will be a black eye for Obama and peoples confidence in Obama because they believe Romney would deal with the situation better.



That is why they will need to set up a serious false flag event to blame on Iran. It would probably be an attack against Americans or Israel.


no photo
Mon 09/03/12 11:28 AM
Edited by alleoops on Mon 09/03/12 11:29 AM



That is not good news.

Here is the butterfly effect:

If the polls are consistently pointing to Obama loosing, then the only way to keep him in power (and they want him to stay in power in a bad way) --will be a major world crisis like world war III or a war with Iran.

During times of war, the Incumbent usually always wins. Obama will declare war with Iran after some staged false flag event and...then..

...Complete chaos in the Middle east, and it will be taken over (given to) the Muslim Brotherhood.

America will no longer honor their agreement to buy Oil from the Saudi's and the agreement will be broken about only buying oil with the dollar and the dollar will get dumped as the reserve currency.

Stalks will fall. People who have any measure of wealth will loose it. The dollar will be so inflated people will not have enough to buy the bare essentials. Cities will bankrupt, services will stop.


This is what the Elite want to happen. Then they can step in and offer to save everyone by issuing a new currency. People will have to start from scratch and live under the thumb of the Elite if they accept their terms.









Actually they are saying Obama is trying to prolong the Iran issue until after the election because of Israel or the US strike Iran it will be a black eye for Obama and peoples confidence in Obama because they believe Romney would deal with the situation better.



That is why they will need to set up a serious false flag event to blame on Iran. It would probably be an attack against Americans or Israel.




We should kill all of the Elite, Cabals and Illuminati.
Where are they?sad2

no photo
Mon 09/03/12 12:08 PM




That is not good news.

Here is the butterfly effect:

If the polls are consistently pointing to Obama loosing, then the only way to keep him in power (and they want him to stay in power in a bad way) --will be a major world crisis like world war III or a war with Iran.

During times of war, the Incumbent usually always wins. Obama will declare war with Iran after some staged false flag event and...then..

...Complete chaos in the Middle east, and it will be taken over (given to) the Muslim Brotherhood.

America will no longer honor their agreement to buy Oil from the Saudi's and the agreement will be broken about only buying oil with the dollar and the dollar will get dumped as the reserve currency.

Stalks will fall. People who have any measure of wealth will loose it. The dollar will be so inflated people will not have enough to buy the bare essentials. Cities will bankrupt, services will stop.


This is what the Elite want to happen. Then they can step in and offer to save everyone by issuing a new currency. People will have to start from scratch and live under the thumb of the Elite if they accept their terms.









Actually they are saying Obama is trying to prolong the Iran issue until after the election because of Israel or the US strike Iran it will be a black eye for Obama and peoples confidence in Obama because they believe Romney would deal with the situation better.



That is why they will need to set up a serious false flag event to blame on Iran. It would probably be an attack against Americans or Israel.




We should kill all of the Elite, Cabals and Illuminati.
Where are they?sad2


They have all moved out of the Cities.

no photo
Mon 09/03/12 12:13 PM





That is not good news.

Here is the butterfly effect:

If the polls are consistently pointing to Obama loosing, then the only way to keep him in power (and they want him to stay in power in a bad way) --will be a major world crisis like world war III or a war with Iran.

During times of war, the Incumbent usually always wins. Obama will declare war with Iran after some staged false flag event and...then..

...Complete chaos in the Middle east, and it will be taken over (given to) the Muslim Brotherhood.

America will no longer honor their agreement to buy Oil from the Saudi's and the agreement will be broken about only buying oil with the dollar and the dollar will get dumped as the reserve currency.

Stalks will fall. People who have any measure of wealth will loose it. The dollar will be so inflated people will not have enough to buy the bare essentials. Cities will bankrupt, services will stop.


This is what the Elite want to happen. Then they can step in and offer to save everyone by issuing a new currency. People will have to start from scratch and live under the thumb of the Elite if they accept their terms.









Actually they are saying Obama is trying to prolong the Iran issue until after the election because of Israel or the US strike Iran it will be a black eye for Obama and peoples confidence in Obama because they believe Romney would deal with the situation better.



That is why they will need to set up a serious false flag event to blame on Iran. It would probably be an attack against Americans or Israel.




We should kill all of the Elite, Cabals and Illuminati.
Where are they?sad2


They have all moved out of the Cities.

So, what are we to do?

no photo
Mon 09/03/12 12:27 PM






That is not good news.

Here is the butterfly effect:

If the polls are consistently pointing to Obama loosing, then the only way to keep him in power (and they want him to stay in power in a bad way) --will be a major world crisis like world war III or a war with Iran.

During times of war, the Incumbent usually always wins. Obama will declare war with Iran after some staged false flag event and...then..

...Complete chaos in the Middle east, and it will be taken over (given to) the Muslim Brotherhood.

America will no longer honor their agreement to buy Oil from the Saudi's and the agreement will be broken about only buying oil with the dollar and the dollar will get dumped as the reserve currency.

Stalks will fall. People who have any measure of wealth will loose it. The dollar will be so inflated people will not have enough to buy the bare essentials. Cities will bankrupt, services will stop.


This is what the Elite want to happen. Then they can step in and offer to save everyone by issuing a new currency. People will have to start from scratch and live under the thumb of the Elite if they accept their terms.









Actually they are saying Obama is trying to prolong the Iran issue until after the election because of Israel or the US strike Iran it will be a black eye for Obama and peoples confidence in Obama because they believe Romney would deal with the situation better.



That is why they will need to set up a serious false flag event to blame on Iran. It would probably be an attack against Americans or Israel.




We should kill all of the Elite, Cabals and Illuminati.
Where are they?sad2


They have all moved out of the Cities.

So, what are we to do? How can we kill them then?