Topic: Families of Slain Iranian Nuclear Scientists Sue Israel, US,
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Thu 08/16/12 03:23 PM

The people pushing the idea that this is a war being created by the west.. inherently designed to benefit the west... are the ones trying to provoke the rubes.

If I have said it once I have said it a thousand times.

This is about the Sunni Monarchies wanting to defend themselves against what they consider an imperialist and hostile Shia in Iran who's ULTIMATE GOAL IS TAKING CONTROL OF THE ARABIAN PENINSULA AND THE MUSLIM HOLY SITES.








The Iranians are of Persian origin who have little interests in "holy sites", thats just an irrational premise. To suggest the Iran would alienate her Muslims around the world simply for "holy sites " is quite comical. When America overthrew Iran and put the Shah in power, the Iranian revolution began. I think our propaganda machine has sunk to a new low in insulting our intelligence.

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Thu 08/16/12 03:35 PM

The people pushing the idea that this is a war being created by the west.. inherently designed to benefit the west... are the ones trying to provoke the rubes.

If I have said it once I have said it a thousand times.

This is about the Sunni Monarchies wanting to defend themselves against what they consider an imperialist and hostile Shia in Iran who's ULTIMATE GOAL IS TAKING CONTROL OF THE ARABIAN PENINSULA AND THE MUSLIM HOLY SITES.








By the way, Iran already legaly control the eastern portion of the Strait of Hurmuz. The western portion is controled by Saudi Arabia with THE USA having total access. A close look at the world map clearly indicates the true intentions of the west and her Arab allies to literally surround Iran. Afghanastan to her east, Iraq to her west, Pakistan also to the east, Isreal to her south west, and the USAs navy in the sot

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Thu 08/16/12 03:39 PM
*the south, it seems to me that the American military is in controll of the penisula. And if thats Irans goal, id say that is her right, I doubt we would let Russia try to put nukes in Cuba.

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Thu 08/16/12 04:09 PM
Every so often the Ayatola (sp) will come out to public and speak of taking out Israel.

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Thu 08/16/12 04:30 PM
...and Cletus, I swear it's getting deeper.

Ras427's photo
Thu 08/16/12 04:32 PM

Every so often the Ayatola (sp) will come out to public and speak of taking out Israel.

And how funny that not once has he been on American television, hummmm.

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Thu 08/16/12 04:50 PM


Every so often the Ayatola (sp) will come out to public and speak of taking out Israel.

And how funny that not once has he been on American television, hummmm.



I've never seen him (or anyone) say such a thing.


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Thu 08/16/12 04:55 PM
Edited by Ras427 on Thu 08/16/12 05:02 PM

...and Cletus, I swear it's getting deeper.
It gets even deeper. From documents gathered through the freedom of information act, several scholars published a list of covert actions iniciated by the USA. through the CIA, without the knowledge of the American people, without debate in congress and without any kind of appropriate responce. These are foreign policies, not made by presidents or senators. The real foreign policies according to the scholars is made by multinational corporations of Americ. They determine foreign policy,and if they determine foreign policy, they then also determine domestic policies. Our history of covert operations throughout the world are quite extensive, particularly in Central and South America, Africa, Asia ect. Considering this consistant and present history, I highly doubt that the premise being fashioned to the public regarding Iran can be deemed as truthfull. But just another policy geared at enriching a powerfull elite, while sending young men and woman to die. Our great denial persists to present a usefull tool as well, as our nation reeks of mental oblivion. Again, our history of consistant covert operation, political murders throughout the world are well documented. The pattern is clear and consistant. Our attitudes are clear and consistant as well, clearly unable to see, and consistantly in great denial. Its simular to Jeffrey Dahmers loved one, when asked what do you think, she said "i dont believe it", he is a good boy.

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Thu 08/16/12 05:08 PM



Every so often the Ayatola (sp) will come out to public and speak of taking out Israel.

And how funny that not once has he been on American television, hummmm.



I've never seen him (or anyone) say such a thing.


None of the so called enemys of America have been featured on American networks, except for a brief interview of Ahmanidijahn by Charlie Rose, an interview Rose regretted.

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Thu 08/16/12 05:49 PM



Every so often the Ayatola (sp) will come out to public and speak of taking out Israel.

And how funny that not once has he been on American television, hummmm.

I've never seen him (or anyone) say such a thing.


Seeing is believing!!

glasses

Do you have trouble translating "Death to Israel"?
"Destruction of the Zionist regime?"
"Israel should be destroyed?"

laugh

http://youtu.be/_9zcElqetqk

http://youtu.be/ykd-syzZ4ZY

http://youtu.be/ErGg2rK_tf8

http://youtu.be/5hLDjGdJC0Q

"This origin of corruption (Israel) will soon be wiped off the Earth's face."

The US is a satanic power that with Gods will be annihilated."

laugh

Right. All videos faked. It must be made up!

laugh

Hmmmm. Maybe we better keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons...
(Just in case....)

laughlaugh :laugh

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Thu 08/16/12 06:35 PM


...and Cletus, I swear it's getting deeper.
It gets even deeper. From documents gathered through the freedom of information act, several scholars published a list of covert actions iniciated by the USA. through the CIA, without the knowledge of the American people, without debate in congress and without any kind of appropriate responce. These are foreign policies, not made by presidents or senators. The real foreign policies according to the scholars is made by multinational corporations of Americ. They determine foreign policy,and if they determine foreign policy, they then also determine domestic policies. Our history of covert operations throughout the world are quite extensive, particularly in Central and South America, Africa, Asia ect. Considering this consistant and present history, I highly doubt that the premise being fashioned to the public regarding Iran can be deemed as truthfull. But just another policy geared at enriching a powerfull elite, while sending young men and woman to die. Our great denial persists to present a usefull tool as well, as our nation reeks of mental oblivion. Again, our history of consistant covert operation, political murders throughout the world are well documented. The pattern is clear and consistant. Our attitudes are clear and consistant as well, clearly unable to see, and consistantly in great denial. Its simular to Jeffrey Dahmers loved one, when asked what do you think, she said "i dont believe it", he is a good boy.


Yep, Cletus, this Boosh*t is up to my waist.

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Thu 08/16/12 06:36 PM




Every so often the Ayatola (sp) will come out to public and speak of taking out Israel.

And how funny that not once has he been on American television, hummmm.

I've never seen him (or anyone) say such a thing.


Seeing is believing!!

glasses

Do you have trouble translating "Death to Israel"?
"Destruction of the Zionist regime?"
"Israel should be destroyed?"

laugh

http://youtu.be/_9zcElqetqk

http://youtu.be/ykd-syzZ4ZY

http://youtu.be/ErGg2rK_tf8

http://youtu.be/5hLDjGdJC0Q

"This origin of corruption (Israel) will soon be wiped off the Earth's face."

The US is a satanic power that with Gods will be annihilated."

laugh

Right. All videos faked. It must be made up!

laugh

Hmmmm. Maybe we better keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons...
(Just in case....)

laughlaugh :laugh


Have you ever noticed that the facts are immaterial to some people? :wink:

no photo
Thu 08/16/12 06:43 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 08/16/12 06:45 PM
Those youtube videos are very much spun with bias.

Here is an interview with the man in 2010. The reporter sounded like an idiot pressing him about the location of Osama Bin Laden.

This guy said that he does not feel it is right for two countries who possess (and threaten) other countries with nuclear weapons to have any right to tell anyone else they cannot develope nuclear power.

There are many other countries who agree with this.

I agree with this. America and Israel want to have their nuclear weapons and they want to rule the world with threats and they want to disarm everyone else.

Its not logical but it is understandable. They want to be the dictators of the world and they don't want anyone to protest with their weapons.


May 5, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLkiM4CHAJo&feature=related


By the way, did you know that the Social Security Administration purchased a huge amount of hollow point bullets for their protection against the time in the future when they inform you that you are not getting your retirement?

And not only them, our government agencies are purchasing huge amounts of ammunition .... to protect them from a possible revolution. They are buying these weapons with our tax dollars.

... to kill US.





Ras427's photo
Thu 08/16/12 06:45 PM



...and Cletus, I swear it's getting deeper.
It gets even deeper. From documents gathered through the freedom of information act, several scholars published a list of covert actions iniciated by the USA. through the CIA, without the knowledge of the American people, without debate in congress and without any kind of appropriate responce. These are foreign policies, not made by presidents or senators. The real foreign policies according to the scholars is made by multinational corporations of Americ. They determine foreign policy,and if they determine foreign policy, they then also determine domestic policies. Our history of covert operations throughout the world are quite extensive, particularly in Central and South America, Africa, Asia ect. Considering this consistant and present history, I highly doubt that the premise being fashioned to the public regarding Iran can be deemed as truthfull. But just another policy geared at enriching a powerfull elite, while sending young men and woman to die. Our great denial persists to present a usefull tool as well, as our nation reeks of mental oblivion. Again, our history of consistant covert operation, political murders throughout the world are well documented. The pattern is clear and consistant. Our attitudes are clear and consistant as well, clearly unable to see, and consistantly in great denial. Its simular to Jeffrey Dahmers loved one, when asked what do you think, she said "i dont believe it", he is a good boy.


Yep, Cletus, this Boosh*t is up to my waist.
Im not sure what you mean, however im sure you will expound further as to what your point is.

no photo
Thu 08/16/12 06:46 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 08/16/12 06:46 PM
They have no points. They don't know how to handle the truth.


HotRodDeluxe's photo
Thu 08/16/12 07:00 PM

They have no points. They don't know how to handle the truth.




Mere assumption.

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Thu 08/16/12 07:02 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Thu 08/16/12 07:04 PM




...and Cletus, I swear it's getting deeper.
It gets even deeper. From documents gathered through the freedom of information act, several scholars published a list of covert actions iniciated by the USA. through the CIA, without the knowledge of the American people, without debate in congress and without any kind of appropriate responce. These are foreign policies, not made by presidents or senators. The real foreign policies according to the scholars is made by multinational corporations of Americ. They determine foreign policy,and if they determine foreign policy, they then also determine domestic policies. Our history of covert operations throughout the world are quite extensive, particularly in Central and South America, Africa, Asia ect. Considering this consistant and present history, I highly doubt that the premise being fashioned to the public regarding Iran can be deemed as truthfull. But just another policy geared at enriching a powerfull elite, while sending young men and woman to die. Our great denial persists to present a usefull tool as well, as our nation reeks of mental oblivion. Again, our history of consistant covert operation, political murders throughout the world are well documented. The pattern is clear and consistant. Our attitudes are clear and consistant as well, clearly unable to see, and consistantly in great denial. Its simular to Jeffrey Dahmers loved one, when asked what do you think, she said "i dont believe it", he is a good boy.


Yep, Cletus, this Boosh*t is up to my waist.
Im not sure what you mean, however im sure you will expound further as to what your point is.


Unsubstantiated rants (or Extremist Hysteria) are relegated to the 'BS file'.

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Thu 08/16/12 07:24 PM

They have no points. They don't know how to handle the truth.


Im afraid I must concer. Usually ill run into some who will present a valid point. However quite rarly. Im of the belief that when little is presented, in the way of facts, some will resort to dismissing facts as mere rants. With little to offer, im always open to dialogue, however to properly do so require reasoning and respect for differant view points. This said however present us with a more pertinant question, do people in our country desire to know truth? Or are they more secure in the myths our goverment perpetrate? Most will turn their televisions on and achknowledge when something is not kosher. Yet then claim to believe the very lier that presented that lie, so long as it is condusive to their idiosincrecys and conditioned way of thinking. Why do people believe the goverment on tuesday, but if the President says something, hes a lier? My point is that we have become a pretty missinformed, misseducated, mislead and we seem comfortable with that. Why are we so easily mislead? Because to be informed would present quite a dilema, one being responcability, the other would be just as challenging, in that to look closely would threaten a false sence of entitlment, along would facing a simple fact,AN EMPIRES FIRST AND NATURAL INCLINATION IS TO MISSLEAD HER MASSES. Simple as ABC.

no photo
Thu 08/16/12 07:33 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 08/16/12 07:34 PM


They have no points. They don't know how to handle the truth.


Im afraid I must concer. Usually ill run into some who will present a valid point. However quite rarly. Im of the belief that when little is presented, in the way of facts, some will resort to dismissing facts as mere rants. With little to offer, im always open to dialogue, however to properly do so require reasoning and respect for differant view points. This said however present us with a more pertinant question, do people in our country desire to know truth? Or are they more secure in the myths our goverment perpetrate? Most will turn their televisions on and achknowledge when something is not kosher. Yet then claim to believe the very lier that presented that lie, so long as it is condusive to their idiosincrecys and conditioned way of thinking. Why do people believe the goverment on tuesday, but if the President says something, hes a lier? My point is that we have become a pretty missinformed, misseducated, mislead and we seem comfortable with that. Why are we so easily mislead? Because to be informed would present quite a dilema, one being responcability, the other would be just as challenging, in that to look closely would threaten a false sence of entitlment, along would facing a simple fact,AN EMPIRES FIRST AND NATURAL INCLINATION IS TO MISSLEAD HER MASSES. Simple as ABC.


And in the end, the "empire" will protect itself. (Not the people or the masses.)

That is why they built secure fortified underground bunkers ... for the leading Elite and goverment puppets to feel safe as they betray the people.


no photo
Thu 08/16/12 07:36 PM
By the way, did you know that the Social Security Administration purchased a huge amount of hollow point bullets for their protection against the time in the future when they inform you that you are not getting your retirement?

And not only them, our government agencies are purchasing huge amounts of ammunition .... to protect them from a possible revolution. They are buying these weapons with our tax dollars.

... to kill US. ...us who might revolt when we run out of food and the money is just paper, or can't buy anything.