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Im not down with 'villifying' there is plenty of responsibility, including big business which sometimes screws over the american worker for their bottom line by hiring cheaper labor, outsourcing, and automation to name a few things,,, and I dont believe these are always done out of a necessity as much as they are out of greed its like someone making 12 mill a year and having to pay out 3,,meaning they still have made 9 mill finding a way to only pay out 500000, just to 'keep' more at the expense of others not having ANY? thats greed, not to be confused with practical , necessary, or sound business choices and greed is whats killing us,, on wall street, amongst taxpayers, with the banks, and the corporations, and the politicians we want MORE MORE MORE, and damn who gets hurt in the process Not everybody wants more more more.... Not every person and not every business. Screwing people over is always bad for business. If workers are not happy then a business cannot prosper. If customers are not happy then a business cannot continue long. So...I agree with you that there are limits. Every society needs a robust economy and a decent standard of living. There is plenty of blame to go around. Our politicians for example are also not serving us very well lately. the problem is greed and the greedy so the non greedy are a non issue screwing people over is NOT always bad for business, because those who are employed in these times are happy to be 'working' in a culture that says you should not be picky if you need a job,,, and the ones screwed are the ones who loose out or lose their jobs, so I was also not referring to screwing over the 'employed' who are usually gonna be happy with anything because our culture demands they revere any opportunity the 'job creators' have made for them,,, and customers have no clue and rarely care so much about what is going on with the people who are WORKING to make products or provide services as long as the product or service they purchase meets their wants and needs,,, too many dont have 'limits' to how far they go to get more,,,,, I have to disagree. If co-workers are irritated or have a miserable work situation or underpay or overwork your employees then the good ones leave and the place goes to the dogs. There is no bright future without mutual respect and profitability. If customers are not satisfied with the service or product then they simply stop patronizing the business and eventually the enterprise becomes unsupportable. I'm not saying there are not overly greedy or obnoxious people running people and businesses into the ground. There are such instances. But bad businesspeople are the exception rather than the rule. There are many other problems in our society including lazy people, the uneducated and ignorant, politicians which put petty squabbles over the best interest of our citizens and the health care industry. |
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If you really care about this issue, read this article...And these are only the TWO BIGGEST problems facing America today...Starting with number three, there is a whole laundry list... America's 2 Biggest Problems, and Why Washington Refuses to Fix Them 5 MAR 16 2012, 10:30 AM ET 6 Economists seem to agree on what we need to do to become more competitive over the long-term: (1) better tax policy (2) new infrastructure. What's holding us back? (Hint: See picture below) Economists are different from you and me (they're better at math), but they're like average people in one big way: They, too, can't stand Congress. That might have been the biggest takeaway from The Atlantic's Economy Summit on Wednesday, which included wonky heavy-hitters like Larry Summers, Bob Rubin, Paul Volcker, Gene Sperling, and Douglas Holtz-Eakin. In fact, they might -- incredibly -- hold Capitol Hill in lower regard than the rest of us. After all, Congress is where good ideas go to die. And economists don't like to see their good ideas perish. Two of their ideas were runaway favorites at the Summit: tax reform and infrastructure investment. There are no free lunches in economics, but tax reform and infrastructure spending are about as close as it gets. Right now we have the worst of all worlds when it comes to taxes: high marginal rates offset by high tax spending combining to bring in low revenue. Lowering rates and eliminating some tax spending should, at least in theory, improve incentives without creating any more red ink. Win-win. The same is true when it comes to fixing our roads and bridges. The crumbling state of our infrastructure means that there are plenty of projects that would essentially pay for themselves -- and more -- over the course of their lives. If we don't upgrade our infrastructure, eventually that will act as a brake on our growth. We'll struggle to keep competing with the countries that are willing to make big public investments. If economists from left and right can agree that we need new tax law and new bridges, what's keeping us from making a deal on these lowest of low-hanging economic fruit? The answer is politics. Here are the biggest things preventing us from getting tax reform and infrastructure spending. 1) Why we don't have tax reform. Everybody wants to simplify the tax code. But the tax code never gets simplified. The single biggest reason is money. Republicans won't stand for tax reform that gives government more money. Democrats won't stand for tax reform that makes government poorer. There's your rock and there's your hard place. But the problem is exacerbated by tax spending. Economists say they hate tax spending, or tax expenditures -- those loopholes, deductions, and exemptions sprinkled in the tax code. But lobbyists want them, and constituents love them for the same reason academics hate them: Tax spending rewards special groups. The items that cost us the most also tend to have the biggest constituencies. One of the biggies is the mortgage interest deduction, which rewards homeowners with expensive houses. Economists don't like this deduction because it's regressive and it hands out money to homeowners who probably don't need it. But homeowners like it, because it saves them money. Getting rid of these deductions is clearly politically fraught -- there are more homeowners than economists in America -- and neither side wants to move first, for fear of being demagogued by the other side. 2) Why we don't have infrastructure spending. Nobody ever saved money by putting off necessary expenses, Gene Sperling, the chief of the National Economic Council, said at the Summit. He's probably right that eventually we're going to have to repair our worn-down roads and bridges. With record low interest rates, there's no better time to make these investments than when -- after taking inflation into account -- investors are effectively paying the U.S. government for the privilege of lending to them. But Republicans say reducing our deficits should come before new spending projects, and Democrats are nervous to go big on a spending package at a time of anxiety about the federal budget. Despite the admitted merits of shoring up infrastructure, they're not going to sign up for anything that resembles stimulus, especially in an election year. *** If the answers to our problems don't elude us, the political will does. When it comes to both tax reform and infrastructure spending, there's fairly good consensus among the wonks that disintegrates once you take the argument to Capitol Hill. The first honeymoon months of 2013 could be our last, best chance for an activist, reform-ready government until 2017. If we miss that window, our problems won't wait -- even if our political system is determined to do so. http://tinyurl.com/9t5oqnl Good post. When the GFC hit in '08, our federal government embarked on a massive infrastructure upgrade that is still underway. This aspect of the stimulus plan kept our building industry bouyant and prevented the mass unemployment the US has experienced. True, our nation is heavily in debt as a result, but we survived where others went bankrupt. Many attribute our economic survival to our primary resource sector, and while it is a factor, the stimulus plan saved our building industry, which in turn ( as we know) keeps many other economic sectors thriving. ![]() |
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Im not down with 'villifying' there is plenty of responsibility, including big business which sometimes screws over the american worker for their bottom line by hiring cheaper labor, outsourcing, and automation to name a few things,,, and I dont believe these are always done out of a necessity as much as they are out of greed its like someone making 12 mill a year and having to pay out 3,,meaning they still have made 9 mill finding a way to only pay out 500000, just to 'keep' more at the expense of others not having ANY? thats greed, not to be confused with practical , necessary, or sound business choices and greed is whats killing us,, on wall street, amongst taxpayers, with the banks, and the corporations, and the politicians we want MORE MORE MORE, and damn who gets hurt in the process Not everybody wants more more more.... Not every person and not every business. Screwing people over is always bad for business. If workers are not happy then a business cannot prosper. If customers are not happy then a business cannot continue long. So...I agree with you that there are limits. Every society needs a robust economy and a decent standard of living. There is plenty of blame to go around. Our politicians for example are also not serving us very well lately. I strongly disagree, if workers are not happy, they usually get replaced by their employer. Large corporations send ballots around the office just like any other political party, they bully their employees into voting certain ways. When Employess of large corporations do not comply they find ways to fire or lay them off. It is not to say they wont be sued later on by Gloria Allred, but yes it happens all the time. |
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It's just my opinion. I think that our welfare system to date has been more than adequate. The failure is that those that receive it have not used it wisely enough to better their situation. Too much of it, sadly, has gone to alcohol and drugs. Dont forget mormans and illegals... |
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Dont forget mormans and illegals...
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Dont forget mormans and illegals...
![]() well it was in reference to the quote I had on the original post which you took out. It said too much of welfare money is being misused for drugs and alcohol and the recipients are not using their money wisely. I said dont forget about mormans and illegals. IE: Mormans who have several wives but one legal marriage document within the state law limitations continue to bare children with multiple partners who then go and claim single parent and get a bunch of money when in fact they are "religiously married" but not bound by law. Illegals have kids and then they get money for their kids. Just go to the school and see how many kids are on the free lunch program. Then do a count and see what you come up with. Im not being rude, Im being real. I enjoy diversity. |
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Dont forget mormans and illegals...
![]() well it was in reference to the quote I had on the original post which you took out. It said too much of welfare money is being misused for drugs and alcohol and the recipients are not using their money wisely. I said dont forget about mormans and illegals. IE: Mormans who have several wives but one legal marriage document within the state law limitations continue to bare children with multiple partners who then go and claim single parent and get a bunch of money when in fact they are "religiously married" but not bound by law. Illegals have kids and then they get money for their kids. Just go to the school and see how many kids are on the free lunch program. Then do a count and see what you come up with. Im not being rude, Im being real. I enjoy diversity. ![]() You need to be using Google Chrome for your web browser. That way you will see that "Morman" is a misspelled word. |
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Dont forget mormans and illegals...
![]() well it was in reference to the quote I had on the original post which you took out. It said too much of welfare money is being misused for drugs and alcohol and the recipients are not using their money wisely. I said dont forget about mormans and illegals. IE: Mormans who have several wives but one legal marriage document within the state law limitations continue to bare children with multiple partners who then go and claim single parent and get a bunch of money when in fact they are "religiously married" but not bound by law. Illegals have kids and then they get money for their kids. Just go to the school and see how many kids are on the free lunch program. Then do a count and see what you come up with. Im not being rude, Im being real. I enjoy diversity. ![]() You need to be using Google Chrome for your web browser. That way you will see that "Morman" is a misspelled word. YEAH, because spelling is so much more important than poverty and misuse of government and corporate funding. |
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