It is not the same for both sides.

1. Israeli policy is never to intentionally attack civilians and
they don't. This is not cold blooded murder. If for example, there
had been no rocket attacks then there never would have been a
Cast Lead operation.

2. Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other Palestinian terrorist groups have
an explicit policy of attacking and murdering as many innocent
civilians as possible with rockets, bus bombs, cafe bombs, cross
border raids, airplane hijackings etc.

Yes and it bothers me the press is so quick to jump on Israel but just give bare lip service to the atrocities hamas and others commit against irsrael.

I would disagree, i don't feel that both sides are at fault... Every cease-fire that was brokered with the Israelis and palestine, Israel did not break it, Hamas did... every one. And Hamas would rocket bomb Israeli citizens targets, no military... I think Israel has shown great patience in not wiping out the whole areas around them.

When you say it that way I have to concur.

I am pretty sure the illegal Israeli occupation on the west bank have allot to do with the continued conflict.

Instead of stopping Israel's contineous murderous rampage, we continue to fund it, shamelessly.

Israel is only in the West Bank because Israel was brutally attacked
from those areas in 1967 and the opposing aggressor armies lost the
war. There has never been a resolution to that war. In fact, Israel
has faced ongoing attacks from that region ever since.

It is ignorant and wrong to call it an illegal occupation of the West
Bank. Palestinians already control their own population throughout the
West Bank but they misuse this control to continue to attack Israel
rather than to peacefully build their own economy and improve their
own standard of living. It is entirely in their own interest and in
their own power to do so. But instead to attempting to better their
situation, they rot in a hell of their own hatred, self-pity,
terrorism and despair. It is a completely unnecessary tragedy of their
own making.

Clearly when Israel vacates land they captured legally in the 67 war as
they did in Gaza it does NOT result in peace but only hatred and
terrorism for more concessions and escalation of attacks.

When the Arabs and Palestinians stop teaching their children antisemitic
Jew hatred and stop war crime terrorist attacks on Israel there would
be a long and durable peace. It will happen. It's is only a matter
of how long they wish to hatefully self-mutilate and how long Palestnians
are going to tolerate corrupt and vile leadership like Hamas and Fatah.

It is long past time for an Arab Spring in Gaza and the West Bank.

It will be hard not to hate when Israeli snipers shoot women carrying a white flag.

As pointed out above, Hamas is responsible for these deaths. Direct the
hatred at those who are actually responsible for the war in which these
people were killed - Hamas.

Hamas could have stopped the rocket attacks against Israel. They
chose not to. Hamas could have surrendered after the first bullet
but they chose to fight from next to these people's homes - Hamas
PLACED these poor people DIRECTLY into the line of fire.

Disgusting.

Does a white flag mean "I surrender"?

Do unarmed women need to be sniped?

Were you there to see the circumstances?
Were the Israeli's being attacked with rockets and gunfire?
There is no information here.

One thing for sure is that it was completely in Hamas' control to
stop the rocket attacks and avoid war and casualties but they chose
to continue the attacks and put innocent people in harms way.

A lot of blood is on Hamas hands.

But if you watch this interview about Hamas you can see that they
don't give a rats azz about the welfare of Palestinians.

http://youtu.be/wLjwe2b40YA

I didn't think any human being could possibly defend the murder of an old woman carrying a white flag of surrender I was wrong.

Yep. You are defending Hamas. A world renowned terrorist organization
which purposely kills innocent men, women and children and who
are responsible for over 1000 deaths in Gaza due to their horrific
placement in combat situations. Yet, some on here defend Hamas.

It is despicable.

I would be just as outraged if a "Nazi" sniper shot an old Jewish woman carrying a white flag of surrender.

Good! I'm sure everyone welcomes your condemnation of Hamas and
their killing of innocent women and children.

Tales of terrorism by any group are just fairy tales unless you have evidence or proof. 90% of it is all lies and propaganda.

OK I believe that ones which are not documented by the independent
and free press (All the Palestinian Propaganda falls into this
category) is made up garbage just like Goldstone found out after
examining false Hamas claims.

But the attacks on Israelis are well documented. The buses that
have been bombed are still around. The rockets have been photographed
after hitting Israeli towns.

Palestinian attacks on innocent Israelis are real.

Iran support for terrorist activities is bona fide.

There is evidence and if you examine my posts and references you
will find all the evidence you want but only if you are honest about
it.

I have my doubt about that simply because Israel and Zionist control the western press. They are not "independent or free press" Discounting the news coming from the other side is also not a smart thing to do.

What you are doing, is deciding who to believe and you have a very strong bias in favor of Israel and Zionism. It clearly shows. So what you say is not "independent or free press" either. It is biased.

Israel is the ONLY Mideast country which actually has freedom of
speech and complete freedom of the press!



All Israelis have the ability to get full and unedited news from
any source they wish. Israeli newspapers enjoy the same autonomy
and independence that any other news organization has in the free
world.



The baseless conspiracy theories of media control and world
domination belong in the "Conspiracy Theories Debunked" forum!

Pretty sure they didn't kill two woman. Maybe two women but I haven't read up on it.

It is a FACT that most American Media is owned by THE COMPANY which would be large corporate entities. They are controlled and run by Jewish businessment who are pro-Zionism. They do controll the content. You cannot disprove this. These are not "baseless conspiracy theories of media control." You obviously have never worked in the media or on a newspaper.

Even privately own small newspapers are under heavy pressures about what they can and cannot print. I know of one in Colorado who had been publishing incidents of cattle mutilations every time they happened to ranchers in his county. The newspapers in Colorado Springs were forbidden to print these stories.

This private ranch newspaper owner was threatened and told not to print any more articles about cattle mutilations. He refused the first time. The second time they threatened his family, his business and his life! He quit printing the articles.

So don't tell me that this is a conspiracy theory. I know FIRST HAND IT IS NOT!

I grow tired of the innuindos and calling every bit of news you don't happen to like a "conspiracy theory."

There is a difference between a "conspiracy theory" and news or facts. If you don't like the news I am reporting you just think you can call it a conspiracy theory. You cannot disprove what I have said. You cannot disprove that the American Major media is controlled mostly by Zionists and corporations (and banking cabals).

Powerful people learned a long time ago that they can manipulate the minds of the public with the media.