Topic: Amnesty for Illegals of working age.
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Sun 08/12/12 04:08 PM
Edited by willing2 on Sun 08/12/12 04:08 PM
I just got back from visiting folks in Tacoma.

Some friends own construction companies, building maint., plumbing co,s and the only workers they can find are Illegals.

Depending on the Illegal, they can get labor and skilled workers for anywhere between 10 to 18.00 an hour.

I have to change mt stance on Illegals.

Seen too many examples of lazy Americans who will sit on welfare or Unemployment extensions and refuse to work.

The Illegal is making money and my friends are doing much better not having to pay spoiled Americans who want to get paid to lean on a shovel and complain about the pay.

Gonna' be a sad shock to the slackers system when their security rug gets pulled out from under them.laugh

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Obama’s Pre-Election Gift to Illegal Aliens

Posted by Matthew Vadum Jun 18th, 2012


In a move more imperial than presidential, President Obama last week granted what amounts to a kind of de facto citizenship to as many as 1.4 million young illegal aliens.

From the Rose Garden of the White House on Friday Obama announced plans to bypass Congress and partially implement the so-called DREAM Act which would have offered a path to U.S. citizenship for youthful illegals who served in the armed forces or attended college. The administration says 800,000 illegal aliens could benefit although Jon Feere of the nonpartisan Center for Immigration Studies says the true number is closer to 1.4 million.

The cynical move came mere days before Obama was scheduled to speak at a major gathering of Hispanic activists in Florida.

Within hours of the announcement Obama’s reelection campaign sent out a mass email to supporters romanticizing this cohort of illegals as “Dreamers” who love America. These illegal aliens “should be able to dream as big as they want,” wrote Katherine Archuleta, national political director for the campaign.

The president said the new decree would take effect immediately in order to “lift the shadow of deportation from these young people.” Why this shadow needed to be lifted right now, while record unemployment levels plague the nation, was not explained.

“Let’s be clear, this is not amnesty, this is not immunity, this is not a path to citizenship, this is not a permanent fix,” Obama said. “This is the right thing to do.”

Of course the former constitutional law lecturer knows full well that any executive order that withholds prosecution for unlawful acts is by definition an amnesty, that is, an act of official forgiveness for past offenses.

Like all amnesties it rewards lawbreaking and serves as a flashing green light to would-be illegal immigrants, inviting them to jump the queue. Amnesties beget amnesties. Each one increases the likelihood that another immigration amnesty will follow in the future – and so on and so on and so on.

But whatever Obama may call his new order, there’s nothing anyone can do about the amnesty – for now.

“If the president says we’re not going to enforce the law, there’s really nothing anyone can do about it,”

willing2's photo
Mon 08/13/12 07:11 AM
No one else wants to praise Barry for freeing the slaves?smokin

Chazster's photo
Mon 08/13/12 07:30 AM
If they get citizenship can't they get welfare at that point? Maybe they will atop working once they can get that.

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Mon 08/13/12 08:01 AM

If they get citizenship can't they get welfare at that point? Maybe they will atop working once they can get that.

laugh

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Mon 08/13/12 08:10 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 08/13/12 08:11 AM
I dont believe employers claiming they cant get americans who will work for 10-18 an hour


sorry

with the exception of asking people to work with unsanitary and bacteria ridden CRAP,,,(plumbers) which I expect they would expect a wage to compensate for the exposure/risk,,,,



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Mon 08/13/12 08:14 AM

I dont believe employers claiming they cant get americans who will work for 10-18 an hour


sorry

with the exception of asking people to work with unsanitary and bacteria ridden CRAP,,,(plumbers) which I expect they would expect a wage to compensate for the exposure/risk,,,,




Me too. Seems that illegals are more eager to work though.

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Mon 08/13/12 08:15 AM

If they get citizenship can't they get welfare at that point? Maybe they will atop working once they can get that.


welfare isnt paying as much as they are getting paid under the table, and there is far too much checking in, verification, and documentation required for most people

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Mon 08/13/12 08:24 AM


I dont believe employers claiming they cant get americans who will work for 10-18 an hour


sorry

with the exception of asking people to work with unsanitary and bacteria ridden CRAP,,,(plumbers) which I expect they would expect a wage to compensate for the exposure/risk,,,,




Me too. Seems that illegals are more eager to work though.



yeah, thats how child labor works too,, desperation and need,,,

still doesnt make it right though,,,,just to avoid paying people 'fairly' for their work,,,

willing2's photo
Mon 08/13/12 09:03 AM
Where are the kudos for Barry giving companies willing labor?

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/13/12 09:22 AM
I dont give Kudos for things that keep americans unemployed

I do give Kudos for priorities that try to apply common sense,,,

willing2's photo
Mon 08/13/12 03:03 PM
For Barry, freeing the slaves makes great political sense.

Far as working the illegal, the labor or job is sub-contracted to them. They are liable for paying their own taxes.

Gov says they don't need a ssn to do business. They just swear to tell the truth about who they are and promise to report all earnings.

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Mon 08/13/12 03:06 PM
Piece of great advice Barry also gave.

If, you are going to compete, lower your standards and learn Spanish.

Failure to assimlate will leave you unemployable.