Topic: Republicans Are Anti-American
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Fri 07/20/12 02:16 PM








Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?
Please provide a link to your information.

Still cant believe the republicans would filibuster a bill that cuts the tax break to companies that outsource jobs its totally insane.

Who controls the budget? It's the Senate. The budget is submitted the year before so 2013s budget would be submitted (if it was even done) in 2012 for example.

http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php
here is a link with deficits by year. Dems took over the Senate in January 07 thus they for control of the budget from 08 until now. Numbers don't lie.
I did not see five to ten times a number that's for sure.

Anyhow if the republicans wanted to cute spending a win win would be to end tax breaks to companies that export american jobs.

It sure will make them look anti american worker on election day.

Its a democratic dream to have them do this as it exposes them for the frauds they are.

I will quote a person from another site who says it best.


"MONEY, MONEY, MONEY! T H A T is the mission of the republican party. All this talk about freedom, or the flag, or Jesus, or terra is just the flavor du jour, "

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dave-johnson/44432/republicans-filibuster-bill-ending-tax-breaks-for-shipping-jobs-out-of-country


Check your math again. 2007 180 billion. 2009 1.5 trillion 8.3 times which is between 5-10
You do know that Bush had the wars on a seperate udget and Obama included them in his to reflect a true cost.

From yahoo answers.

Why did Bush place the cost for the war on Iraq "off budget"?
Why would congress allow Bush to place the expenditures for the cost of a war off budget??
And why would Obama put it back on?

The best answer?

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
Because he was deceitful and duplicitous for his entire eight-year-long Regime. It's much easier getting away with murder if you don't actually admit you're committing murder. "Why did Congress allow him to get away with it?"

Really? Because it was a Republican Congress who rubberstamped every single piece of crappy legislation for his entire Regime. They did not question ANYTHING he did. Why do you think we're in the mess we're in???

He wasn't honest about ANYTHING he did.

Obama put it in the budget because the American people have a right to know how much money their government is spending.
http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100606144719AAq1ZmX

They don't call me Bestinshow for nothinglaugh :smile:

I am off to a local winery you can have the last word.


Total 10 year cost of the war isn't even up to spending in 2009. It's still not even close.

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Fri 07/20/12 02:20 PM

Republicans Filibuster Bill Ending Tax Breaks For Shipping Jobs Out Of Country!

enate Republicans today FILIBUSTERED to block a bill ending the tax breaks companies get when they send our jobs out of the country -- and giving a few breaks to companies that hire here. The question now: will this get reported to the public? Will they be told this was a Republican filibuster, or just that "The Senate" "blocked" the bill? And will we ever know which companies -- and countries -- paid Republicans to kill this bill.

The Bill

According to GovTrack.us, the Bring Jobs Home Act:

Amends the Internal Revenue Code to:

(1) grant business taxpayers a tax credit for up to 20% of insourcing expenses incurred for eliminating a business located outside the United States and relocating it within the United States, and

(2) deny a tax deduction for outsourcing expenses incurred in relocating a U.S. business outside the United States. Requires an increase in the taxpayer's employment of full-time employees in the United States in order to claim the tax credit for insourcing expenses.

Yes, you can see why Republicans would filibuster that.
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dave-johnson/44432/republicans-filibuster-bill-ending-tax-breaks-for-shipping-jobs-out-of-country


Yet another vapid OP whoa

Some facts....

GOP blocked Deb Stabenew's bill because Harry Reid blocked GOP amendments, specifically their proposal to repeal the health-care reform act...
Dems scheduled the vote to coordinate with Obama/Romney campaign accusations about outsourcing...Stabenew's bill is a good one and should be passed but party divisiveness and dissension on the hill is, as usual, at full court press thanks to Obama's dictating style...
This is nothing more than a campaign tactic by the Obama camp and a test of wills by the GOP...
The numbers are what matter....GDP is at 15.5 trillion.....Tax revenue is at 2.5 trillion...Eliminating the tax deduction to corps moving overseas would raise revenue 168 million over ten years and cost (in tax breaks) 255 million creating very little effect on budget......
Remember this is just party campaign tactics and strong arming...no biggie...

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Fri 07/20/12 02:22 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 07/20/12 02:28 PM
we added nearly 10 percent population from 2000 till now

the social programs are not nearly as much the issue as the stagnating income and dropping income levels

if more people EARNED ENOUGH to pay in, the system would level off again

but more and more people are making less and less and more and more are also needy, so the burden is becoming larger

Id love to see the ideas to promote the educational preperation and employer incentives for increasing the income levels, as opposed to just blindly cutting the programs so many are finding a need for due to systemic changes in income opportunities,,,,


I do think its just as logical to 'attack' the employer end by not rewarding those employers who take jobs from americans

as it is to 'attack' the employee end by mandating potential employees out of work just go without and have no safety net,,,


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Fri 07/20/12 02:25 PM
Best you gotta lay off that kool-aid man.laugh

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Fri 07/20/12 02:28 PM

Best you gotta lay off that kool-aid man.laugh


Wonder what flavor he's "using" today.....pitchfork

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Fri 07/20/12 02:36 PM


Best you gotta lay off that kool-aid man.laugh


Wonder what flavor he's "using" today.....pitchfork

Purple haze?:wink:

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Fri 07/20/12 02:40 PM
I agree.

IMO, 99.9% of Republican and Democratic Politicians are ant-American interests. Most all of them are paid for and owned by at least one special interest.

IMO, Hussein has already proven his Anti-American status and hopefully, they will also flush the Muslim influence out of DC, as well.

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Fri 07/20/12 02:52 PM



Best you gotta lay off that kool-aid man.laugh


Wonder what flavor he's "using" today.....pitchfork

Purple haze?:wink:


That be grape....:tongue:

Chazster's photo
Fri 07/20/12 02:53 PM

we added nearly 10 percent population from 2000 till now

the social programs are not nearly as much the issue as the stagnating income and dropping income levels

if more people EARNED ENOUGH to pay in, the system would level off again

but more and more people are making less and less and more and more are also needy, so the burden is becoming larger

Id love to see the ideas to promote the educational preperation and employer incentives for increasing the income levels, as opposed to just blindly cutting the programs so many are finding a need for due to systemic changes in income opportunities,,,,


I do think its just as logical to 'attack' the employer end by not rewarding those employers who take jobs from americans

as it is to 'attack' the employee end by mandating potential employees out of work just go without and have no safety net,,,




The median income stayed pretty stable but the unemployment rate nearly doubled. Doesn't that suggest people are making more on average?

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Fri 07/20/12 03:20 PM




Best you gotta lay off that kool-aid man.laugh


Wonder what flavor he's "using" today.....pitchfork

Purple haze?:wink:


That be grape....:tongue:

Orange Sunshine.

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Fri 07/20/12 03:23 PM
shocked





shades

Peccy's photo
Fri 07/20/12 05:29 PM
Edited by Peccy on Fri 07/20/12 05:32 PM
Until the bi-partisan name calling and finger pointing stop, we will never get anywhere. Best, I thought you were above this type of 5th grade blame game.

There are bad dems and repubs. I don't think one is any better than the other. Democrats want to hug trees and republicans want to blow stuff up. I think that somewhere in the middle is about right.

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Sat 07/21/12 01:46 AM

Until the bi-partisan name calling and finger pointing stop, we will never get anywhere. Best, I thought you were above this type of 5th grade blame game.

There are bad dems and repubs. I don't think one is any better than the other. Democrats want to hug trees and republicans want to blow stuff up. I think that somewhere in the middle is about right.
Still no excuse to filibuster a bill that ends the tax subsidy to businesses who export JOBS.

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Sat 07/21/12 02:57 AM


Until the bi-partisan name calling and finger pointing stop, we will never get anywhere. Best, I thought you were above this type of 5th grade blame game.

There are bad dems and repubs. I don't think one is any better than the other. Democrats want to hug trees and republicans want to blow stuff up. I think that somewhere in the middle is about right.
Still no excuse to filibuster a bill that ends the tax subsidy to businesses who export JOBS.
Repeal all Labor-Unions and their Politician-Cronies and watch those Jobs coming back!
It's them who are killing everything!
Thieves,the LOT!mad

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Sat 07/21/12 07:37 AM


we added nearly 10 percent population from 2000 till now

the social programs are not nearly as much the issue as the stagnating income and dropping income levels

if more people EARNED ENOUGH to pay in, the system would level off again

but more and more people are making less and less and more and more are also needy, so the burden is becoming larger

Id love to see the ideas to promote the educational preperation and employer incentives for increasing the income levels, as opposed to just blindly cutting the programs so many are finding a need for due to systemic changes in income opportunities,,,,


I do think its just as logical to 'attack' the employer end by not rewarding those employers who take jobs from americans

as it is to 'attack' the employee end by mandating potential employees out of work just go without and have no safety net,,,




The median income stayed pretty stable but the unemployment rate nearly doubled. Doesn't that suggest people are making more on average?



what matters is people are not working and those trying to work are finding LOWER wages available,,

if you drop people out of the 'earned income' tabulation who arent top earners, you are going to see a number reflecting a higher 'average'

if we have 21 people and 10 make 20 dollars 1 makes 21 and 10 make 40

the MEDIAN income is 21 and the AVERAGE income is 29.57


but if we have 15 of those same people making money

and 7 make 5 dollars and 7 make 50 dollars and one makes 6 dollars

the MEDIAN income is 6 dollars and the AVERAGE income is 26 dollars

that means 6 people have no earned income, and 8 have taken huge decrease while 7 have witnessed insane increase

thats 14 out of the original twenty one who have seen a pretty steep decrease in INCOME





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Sat 07/21/12 11:59 AM



we added nearly 10 percent population from 2000 till now

the social programs are not nearly as much the issue as the stagnating income and dropping income levels

if more people EARNED ENOUGH to pay in, the system would level off again

but more and more people are making less and less and more and more are also needy, so the burden is becoming larger

Id love to see the ideas to promote the educational preperation and employer incentives for increasing the income levels, as opposed to just blindly cutting the programs so many are finding a need for due to systemic changes in income opportunities,,,,


I do think its just as logical to 'attack' the employer end by not rewarding those employers who take jobs from americans

as it is to 'attack' the employee end by mandating potential employees out of work just go without and have no safety net,,,




The median income stayed pretty stable but the unemployment rate nearly doubled. Doesn't that suggest people are making more on average?



what matters is people are not working and those trying to work are finding LOWER wages available,,

if you drop people out of the 'earned income' tabulation who arent top earners, you are going to see a number reflecting a higher 'average'

if we have 21 people and 10 make 20 dollars 1 makes 21 and 10 make 40

the MEDIAN income is 21 and the AVERAGE income is 29.57


but if we have 15 of those same people making money

and 7 make 5 dollars and 7 make 50 dollars and one makes 6 dollars

the MEDIAN income is 6 dollars and the AVERAGE income is 26 dollars

that means 6 people have no earned income, and 8 have taken huge decrease while 7 have witnessed insane increase

thats 14 out of the original twenty one who have seen a pretty steep decrease in INCOME

Yes comrade harmony, that's why we need Obama's Proletariat to re-distribute the wealth.



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Sat 07/21/12 12:04 PM
right wing

left wing

same bird

the turkey




both parties are controlled by satanists

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Sat 07/21/12 12:07 PM

right wing

left wing

same bird

the turkey




both parties are controlled by satanists


noway

Bestinshow's photo
Sat 07/21/12 12:37 PM
I just wish republicans would do what is "responsible" and keep american jobs in america and stop giving tax breaks to companies who ship jobs overseas

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Sat 07/21/12 02:23 PM

I just wish republicans would do what is "responsible" and keep american jobs in america and stop giving tax breaks to companies who ship jobs overseas

Oh no, that won't happen. Republicans are evil and they want them Americans jobs to go overseas. So they can have all the money for their greedy selves. And they want to kill grandma and grandpa and never have to pay any taxes. And they want to take food away from poor children so they will starve and live on the street.
Best, you sure have them evil republicans figured out, Good work.
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