Of course harmony has to chime in :/ For your information, it isn't name calling although I would have a few of those too if I met him. Socialist is a term used to describe what someone is, which he is. You might want to look it up in the dictionary then read his history up to our current time and you will see he has matched the definition very well.

can anyone share with me what means of production or distribution of goods OBAMA has advocated be 'owned' by the government?

Seriously?

socialism: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.


Collective ownership: The Crown owns the Virginia Company.

The Virginia Company changed its name to "The United States of America."

The United States of America is a corporation, not a country.

The Crown also owns the land we live on. That is why we have to pay Property taxes. We don't own it. We only think we do. We only have a deed of trust for our property and that means we can use it and our decedents can use it.

Until of course they come to reclaim it.

Why might they do that? you may wonder.

Because the United States of America is bankrupt.

The bankers can foreclose on this "country" and its land when ever they decide. Will they do that?

Yes, but in ways you will not realize it.

And "Obama" is the president of this now bankrupt corporation.
There is not much he can do but what ever he is told to do.

so, any country FOUNDED by anyone , is effectively owned by a 'company' that is owning the means of production and goods?

what?

Did I say "any country?"

Did I say any country founded by anyone?

No I did not.

Lets confine this discussion to The United States of America Corporation, formerly "The Virginia Company."

but, the start of the premise is that the funding source for the founders , which came from a company dissolved some three hundred years ago and headed by a KING,

by virtue of having originally funded the inception of the first few colonies

still are the 'owners' of the people and the country of fifty states

or am I mistaken?

if not, by that logic, any place founded with money from someone, can later be said to be under the 'ownership' of that original investor,,,can it not?

I think they would have to put on a 60 minutes documentary for Jeannie. She has more then two questions available for the Presidents.

All valid questions for sure and this is the point I was trying to figure out. We the people want real answers (truthful answers) from Congress as of the President. No more lies, construed information, and false hope.

I rather have honesty.

Imagine a President saying in his speech: This country is in bad shape...very bad shape. We need big changes and your vote on them.

Such issues would be:

Defense budget
Healthcare
401 K
Social Security
Economic Issues
Infrastructure

and so on....

Of course that would be then called a Direct Democracy of which we don't have, but maybe it would be beneficial just once so we can really tackle what the nation(people)want.

We have become very divided as a people. I see more people angry then ever before about politics.

That is awesome. And a good idea.

We could do the same on a campaign against the Banksters and the Federal Reserve.

Great idea, to break the silence of the stupid Media espousing about the Emmy awards and other crap.

A poster demanding real news instead of bull crap would be good.

I'm going to design some posters, and let people download and print them.


Just to do my part to restore free press and freedom of speech as the scumming dictators continue to rob and rape the people.