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Topic: Youtube?
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Sun 07/22/12 04:22 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 07/22/12 04:24 PM

I think you are just looking for an argument.



If you revised the exchange between Troubled and myself, you may see it otherwise, however, I'm sure you'll twist it to fit your own version.

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Sun 07/22/12 05:43 PM






Let's see. I read your post, I'm writing an answer.... I must be a Genius.


Now, let's not get into the realms of fantasy here.

I don't care if you can say horse in seven different languages. If you still ride a cow you get ignored.


More bucolic wisdom? laugh



Learned it from the best shill on the planet



I noticed you have nothing of value to discount my original post apart from redneck ad hominem. But then, that's all you've got, I suppose.


The time of slandering and smearing is over. Belittling people by calling them mentally ill conspiracy theorists & truthers is not working any more. We embrace these terms. It means we are thinking.

Slandering and smearing infowars are futile. A waste of time. Censorship, disinformation and propaganda is failing. Global civil society has spoken. The people want the news not smears, Truth not lies, Facts not propaganda, Freedom not tyranny.


It's only a theory until you know it is true.

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Sun 07/22/12 05:52 PM
Troubled

drinker

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Sun 07/22/12 05:55 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGmHpn-prd0&feature=related






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Sun 07/22/12 07:10 PM



Youtube, like public forums, is one of the best examples of a freedom of speech and freedom of expression.

I have watched two hour long documentaries, and interviews with David Rockefeller, news shows, radio shows, and people's pet videos on youtube.

It is the entire world having their say. I think its great.






No it's not. It's heavily censored. Google is heavily influenced by government as well.


They try to censor it with copyright claims, but I don't think you can prove that Youtube is censored. If so, give some examples.


If you can't see that Google is heavily influenced by the government and censors content, then I don't know what to tell you. All I can say is look it up and see for yourself.

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Sun 07/22/12 07:16 PM




Youtube, like public forums, is one of the best examples of a freedom of speech and freedom of expression.

I have watched two hour long documentaries, and interviews with David Rockefeller, news shows, radio shows, and people's pet videos on youtube.

It is the entire world having their say. I think its great.






No it's not. It's heavily censored. Google is heavily influenced by government as well.


They try to censor it with copyright claims, but I don't think you can prove that Youtube is censored. If so, give some examples.


If you can't see that Google is heavily influenced by the government and censors content, then I don't know what to tell you. All I can say is look it up and see for yourself.


No, I can't see what you see, that is why I am asking you to show it to me.

I am probably one of the more paranoid when it comes to "big brother" and government etc. but I have reasons and evidence for what I believe. I'm sure they use youtube as much as anyone and facebook is the CIA's greatest asset to finding out personal information about people (which is why I deleted my account.)

So please at least tell me why you suspect that the "government" influences and censors youtube content.

Examples, anything. I am not challenging you, I just want to know why you think that. You MUST have some reason other than just paranoia.




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Sun 07/22/12 07:16 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 07/22/12 07:18 PM
I am aware that youtube and the Internet is loaded with disinformation, but how much is censored, and what, I don't know of.

So please, enlighten me.

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Sun 07/22/12 07:32 PM





Youtube, like public forums, is one of the best examples of a freedom of speech and freedom of expression.

I have watched two hour long documentaries, and interviews with David Rockefeller, news shows, radio shows, and people's pet videos on youtube.

It is the entire world having their say. I think its great.






No it's not. It's heavily censored. Google is heavily influenced by government as well.


They try to censor it with copyright claims, but I don't think you can prove that Youtube is censored. If so, give some examples.


If you can't see that Google is heavily influenced by the government and censors content, then I don't know what to tell you. All I can say is look it up and see for yourself.


No, I can't see what you see, that is why I am asking you to show it to me.

I am probably one of the more paranoid when it comes to "big brother" and government etc. but I have reasons and evidence for what I believe. I'm sure they use youtube as much as anyone and facebook is the CIA's greatest asset to finding out personal information about people (which is why I deleted my account.)

So please at least tell me why you suspect that the "government" influences and censors youtube content.

Examples, anything. I am not challenging you, I just want to know why you think that. You MUST have some reason other than just paranoia.







http://rt.com/usa/news/nsa-epic-foia-court-413/

http://endthelie.com/books-and-reading-material/google-cia-nsa-connections/#axzz21PPT9wLx

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7uDUtQxQjiMArcFXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2NjY3OQRfcgMyBGFvA2FvBGNzcmNwdmlkA1RKQ2hPMG9HN3Y3RUFZeU9ULmszMWhJbVRMMklnVkFNdFpNQUFfYS4EZnIDYWxsdGhld2ViBGZyMgNzYnRuBG5fZ3BzAzEEb3JpZ2luA3NycARwcXN0cgNnb29nbGUgYW5kIHRoZSBuc2EEcXVlcnkDZ29vZ2xlIGFuZCB0aGUgbnNhBHNhbwMxBHZ0ZXN0aWQDVklQMTU1?p=google%20and%20the%20nsa&fr2=sb-top&fr=alltheweb&pqstr=google%20and%20the%20nsa

https://s3-us3.startpage.com/do/search?cmd=process_search&pid=d06cad0b629c45b9b15481956db36c0e

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Sun 07/22/12 08:34 PM
Thanks, I'll read those later. drinker

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Sun 07/22/12 08:45 PM
Edited by Totage on Sun 07/22/12 08:46 PM
YW, just be careful, because you know how us "conspiracy terrorists" are crazy people. :P

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Sun 07/22/12 08:56 PM
laugh laugh :wink:

I seek solutions. Honestly.


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Mon 07/23/12 12:18 AM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Mon 07/23/12 12:27 AM

The time of slandering and smearing is over. Belittling people by calling them mentally ill conspiracy theorists & truthers is not working any more. We embrace these terms. It means we are thinking.


So, only those who follow the internet rubbish on the money trail are thinking? Labelling people as sheep, dupes or whatever insult you and your friends use is exactly the same thing.

Slandering and smearing infowars are futile.


It's actually libel, not slander and Infowars is notorious for spreading rubbish along with Russia Today; Global research; Sign of the Times; Press2 and many more. Note: your verb should be singular (is), not plural (are).


A waste of time. Censorship, disinformation and propaganda is failing. Global civil society has spoken. The people want the news not smears, Truth not lies, Facts not propaganda, Freedom not tyranny.


So, you alone possess the ability to discern truth from lies or propaganda where others with degrees in this sort of thing cannot? Give me a break and save the slogans for the rallies. The verb in the first sentence should be plural (are).


It's only a theory until you know it is true.


But do you know? Or do you just believe what you think you know to be the truth? There is quite a difference between the two.

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Mon 07/23/12 03:38 AM
Youtube is a bit like a limestone shore next to the sea. The typical viewer knows something about something so when he goes to the shore and perhaps sees sea shells and knows their names and separates them from the broken shards.

The biologist and geologist go there and see the shells in the limestone and the change to the shells on the beach.

The CTs go there and see sand and dirt, then make up what it means.

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Mon 07/23/12 12:02 PM
I go to youtube, for the experience of listening to and hearing free speech.

And because the Major Media continues to spew ridiculi and lies as if
they are the public relation department for the criminal banking cabal
that is raping and terrorizing this world.




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