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Topic: Welfare agencies boost voters
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Wed 07/04/12 07:58 AM
The recession that impoverished millions of Americans is producing a side effect: new voters.

Lawsuits by voting rights groups in Missouri and Ohio have led hundreds of thousands of people to file voter registration applications at welfare agencies, as mandated by the 1993 National Voter Registration Act, or the "motor voter" law. Cases pending in Indiana, New Mexico and other states, as well as new Justice Department guidelines, probably will boost those figures.
Voting rights advocates say millions of low-income people could be registered this way. A U.S. Election Assistance Commission report in 2007-08 showed 21 states registered less than 1% of voters at welfare offices. Only Vermont, Tennessee and New York registered more than 4% that way.

An increase could help President Obama and his party. A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll in June showed 55% of Americans with incomes less than $20,000 like Obama's performance, tied for his best showing among income groups.

Those numbers could influence elections. Nearly 90% of registered voters cast ballots in 2008, according to the Census Bureau. Republican John McCain won Missouri by 4,000 votes in 2008.

The Census Bureau says 71% of eligible Americans were registered to vote in 2008, but only 64% of those with family incomes less than $20,000 did so. "When you're on food stamps, your primary concern is where your next meal is going to come from," says Nicole Kovite of Project Vote, one of the litigants.

The 1993 law requires most states to offer voter registration at motor vehicles offices, social services agencies and other sites. More than 2.6 million people filled out voter registration applications at public aid offices in 1995-96, or 6.3% of all applicants. The number dropped below 1 million by 2007-08.

Donetta Davidson, who chairs the Election Assistance Commission, sees ample reason for the lawsuits. "I think these groups have a reason to holler 'foul,' " she says. "Things fall through the cracks, and you don't want to disenfranchise your voters."

Jason Torchinsky, a former Justice Department lawyer in the Bush administration, says liberal groups want welfare offices to replace the work of ACORN, a coalition of anti-poverty groups that disbanded this year after allegations of voter fraud.

"With the demise of ACORN, the left needs somebody to pick up that function," he says.

What happens when there are more voters on welfare than voters that work?what

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Wed 07/04/12 08:01 AM

The recession that impoverished millions of Americans is producing a side effect: new voters.

Lawsuits by voting rights groups in Missouri and Ohio have led hundreds of thousands of people to file voter registration applications at welfare agencies, as mandated by the 1993 National Voter Registration Act, or the "motor voter" law. Cases pending in Indiana, New Mexico and other states, as well as new Justice Department guidelines, probably will boost those figures.
Voting rights advocates say millions of low-income people could be registered this way. A U.S. Election Assistance Commission report in 2007-08 showed 21 states registered less than 1% of voters at welfare offices. Only Vermont, Tennessee and New York registered more than 4% that way.

An increase could help President Obama and his party. A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll in June showed 55% of Americans with incomes less than $20,000 like Obama's performance, tied for his best showing among income groups.

Those numbers could influence elections. Nearly 90% of registered voters cast ballots in 2008, according to the Census Bureau. Republican John McCain won Missouri by 4,000 votes in 2008.

The Census Bureau says 71% of eligible Americans were registered to vote in 2008, but only 64% of those with family incomes less than $20,000 did so. "When you're on food stamps, your primary concern is where your next meal is going to come from," says Nicole Kovite of Project Vote, one of the litigants.

The 1993 law requires most states to offer voter registration at motor vehicles offices, social services agencies and other sites. More than 2.6 million people filled out voter registration applications at public aid offices in 1995-96, or 6.3% of all applicants. The number dropped below 1 million by 2007-08.

Donetta Davidson, who chairs the Election Assistance Commission, sees ample reason for the lawsuits. "I think these groups have a reason to holler 'foul,' " she says. "Things fall through the cracks, and you don't want to disenfranchise your voters."

Jason Torchinsky, a former Justice Department lawyer in the Bush administration, says liberal groups want welfare offices to replace the work of ACORN, a coalition of anti-poverty groups that disbanded this year after allegations of voter fraud.

"With the demise of ACORN, the left needs somebody to pick up that function," he says.

What happens when there are more voters on welfare than voters that work?what


maybe then we address the issue of jobs and employment,,,



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Wed 07/04/12 08:07 AM


The recession that impoverished millions of Americans is producing a side effect: new voters.

Lawsuits by voting rights groups in Missouri and Ohio have led hundreds of thousands of people to file voter registration applications at welfare agencies, as mandated by the 1993 National Voter Registration Act, or the "motor voter" law. Cases pending in Indiana, New Mexico and other states, as well as new Justice Department guidelines, probably will boost those figures.
Voting rights advocates say millions of low-income people could be registered this way. A U.S. Election Assistance Commission report in 2007-08 showed 21 states registered less than 1% of voters at welfare offices. Only Vermont, Tennessee and New York registered more than 4% that way.

An increase could help President Obama and his party. A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll in June showed 55% of Americans with incomes less than $20,000 like Obama's performance, tied for his best showing among income groups.

Those numbers could influence elections. Nearly 90% of registered voters cast ballots in 2008, according to the Census Bureau. Republican John McCain won Missouri by 4,000 votes in 2008.

The Census Bureau says 71% of eligible Americans were registered to vote in 2008, but only 64% of those with family incomes less than $20,000 did so. "When you're on food stamps, your primary concern is where your next meal is going to come from," says Nicole Kovite of Project Vote, one of the litigants.

The 1993 law requires most states to offer voter registration at motor vehicles offices, social services agencies and other sites. More than 2.6 million people filled out voter registration applications at public aid offices in 1995-96, or 6.3% of all applicants. The number dropped below 1 million by 2007-08.

Donetta Davidson, who chairs the Election Assistance Commission, sees ample reason for the lawsuits. "I think these groups have a reason to holler 'foul,' " she says. "Things fall through the cracks, and you don't want to disenfranchise your voters."

Jason Torchinsky, a former Justice Department lawyer in the Bush administration, says liberal groups want welfare offices to replace the work of ACORN, a coalition of anti-poverty groups that disbanded this year after allegations of voter fraud.

"With the demise of ACORN, the left needs somebody to pick up that function," he says.

What happens when there are more voters on welfare than voters that work?what


maybe then we address the issue of jobs and employment,,,



But what if more voters would prefer not to work and stay on welfare?what


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Wed 07/04/12 08:09 AM



The recession that impoverished millions of Americans is producing a side effect: new voters.

Lawsuits by voting rights groups in Missouri and Ohio have led hundreds of thousands of people to file voter registration applications at welfare agencies, as mandated by the 1993 National Voter Registration Act, or the "motor voter" law. Cases pending in Indiana, New Mexico and other states, as well as new Justice Department guidelines, probably will boost those figures.
Voting rights advocates say millions of low-income people could be registered this way. A U.S. Election Assistance Commission report in 2007-08 showed 21 states registered less than 1% of voters at welfare offices. Only Vermont, Tennessee and New York registered more than 4% that way.

An increase could help President Obama and his party. A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll in June showed 55% of Americans with incomes less than $20,000 like Obama's performance, tied for his best showing among income groups.

Those numbers could influence elections. Nearly 90% of registered voters cast ballots in 2008, according to the Census Bureau. Republican John McCain won Missouri by 4,000 votes in 2008.

The Census Bureau says 71% of eligible Americans were registered to vote in 2008, but only 64% of those with family incomes less than $20,000 did so. "When you're on food stamps, your primary concern is where your next meal is going to come from," says Nicole Kovite of Project Vote, one of the litigants.

The 1993 law requires most states to offer voter registration at motor vehicles offices, social services agencies and other sites. More than 2.6 million people filled out voter registration applications at public aid offices in 1995-96, or 6.3% of all applicants. The number dropped below 1 million by 2007-08.

Donetta Davidson, who chairs the Election Assistance Commission, sees ample reason for the lawsuits. "I think these groups have a reason to holler 'foul,' " she says. "Things fall through the cracks, and you don't want to disenfranchise your voters."

Jason Torchinsky, a former Justice Department lawyer in the Bush administration, says liberal groups want welfare offices to replace the work of ACORN, a coalition of anti-poverty groups that disbanded this year after allegations of voter fraud.

"With the demise of ACORN, the left needs somebody to pick up that function," he says.

What happens when there are more voters on welfare than voters that work?what


maybe then we address the issue of jobs and employment,,,



But what if more voters would prefer not to work and stay on welfare?what





thats not the nature of american culture

to be satisfied with 'basics' provided in welfare
when they could 'work' and buy all those nice things......

??

not gonna happen

most voters would prefer an INCOME That permitted some type of LIFE,,,beyond mere existence

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Wed 07/04/12 08:19 AM




The recession that impoverished millions of Americans is producing a side effect: new voters.

Lawsuits by voting rights groups in Missouri and Ohio have led hundreds of thousands of people to file voter registration applications at welfare agencies, as mandated by the 1993 National Voter Registration Act, or the "motor voter" law. Cases pending in Indiana, New Mexico and other states, as well as new Justice Department guidelines, probably will boost those figures.
Voting rights advocates say millions of low-income people could be registered this way. A U.S. Election Assistance Commission report in 2007-08 showed 21 states registered less than 1% of voters at welfare offices. Only Vermont, Tennessee and New York registered more than 4% that way.

An increase could help President Obama and his party. A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll in June showed 55% of Americans with incomes less than $20,000 like Obama's performance, tied for his best showing among income groups.

Those numbers could influence elections. Nearly 90% of registered voters cast ballots in 2008, according to the Census Bureau. Republican John McCain won Missouri by 4,000 votes in 2008.

The Census Bureau says 71% of eligible Americans were registered to vote in 2008, but only 64% of those with family incomes less than $20,000 did so. "When you're on food stamps, your primary concern is where your next meal is going to come from," says Nicole Kovite of Project Vote, one of the litigants.

The 1993 law requires most states to offer voter registration at motor vehicles offices, social services agencies and other sites. More than 2.6 million people filled out voter registration applications at public aid offices in 1995-96, or 6.3% of all applicants. The number dropped below 1 million by 2007-08.

Donetta Davidson, who chairs the Election Assistance Commission, sees ample reason for the lawsuits. "I think these groups have a reason to holler 'foul,' " she says. "Things fall through the cracks, and you don't want to disenfranchise your voters."

Jason Torchinsky, a former Justice Department lawyer in the Bush administration, says liberal groups want welfare offices to replace the work of ACORN, a coalition of anti-poverty groups that disbanded this year after allegations of voter fraud.

"With the demise of ACORN, the left needs somebody to pick up that function," he says.

What happens when there are more voters on welfare than voters that work?what


maybe then we address the issue of jobs and employment,,,



But what if more voters would prefer not to work and stay on welfare?what





thats not the nature of american culture

to be satisfied with 'basics' provided in welfare
when they could 'work' and buy all those nice things......

??

not gonna happen

most voters would prefer an INCOME That permitted some type of LIFE,,,beyond mere existence

But what if American culture has changed? If politicians promise all those nice things with not having to work,just to get elected. They would vote for him(or her). wouldn't they?what

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Wed 07/04/12 08:24 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 07/04/12 08:25 AM





The recession that impoverished millions of Americans is producing a side effect: new voters.

Lawsuits by voting rights groups in Missouri and Ohio have led hundreds of thousands of people to file voter registration applications at welfare agencies, as mandated by the 1993 National Voter Registration Act, or the "motor voter" law. Cases pending in Indiana, New Mexico and other states, as well as new Justice Department guidelines, probably will boost those figures.
Voting rights advocates say millions of low-income people could be registered this way. A U.S. Election Assistance Commission report in 2007-08 showed 21 states registered less than 1% of voters at welfare offices. Only Vermont, Tennessee and New York registered more than 4% that way.

An increase could help President Obama and his party. A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll in June showed 55% of Americans with incomes less than $20,000 like Obama's performance, tied for his best showing among income groups.

Those numbers could influence elections. Nearly 90% of registered voters cast ballots in 2008, according to the Census Bureau. Republican John McCain won Missouri by 4,000 votes in 2008.

The Census Bureau says 71% of eligible Americans were registered to vote in 2008, but only 64% of those with family incomes less than $20,000 did so. "When you're on food stamps, your primary concern is where your next meal is going to come from," says Nicole Kovite of Project Vote, one of the litigants.

The 1993 law requires most states to offer voter registration at motor vehicles offices, social services agencies and other sites. More than 2.6 million people filled out voter registration applications at public aid offices in 1995-96, or 6.3% of all applicants. The number dropped below 1 million by 2007-08.

Donetta Davidson, who chairs the Election Assistance Commission, sees ample reason for the lawsuits. "I think these groups have a reason to holler 'foul,' " she says. "Things fall through the cracks, and you don't want to disenfranchise your voters."

Jason Torchinsky, a former Justice Department lawyer in the Bush administration, says liberal groups want welfare offices to replace the work of ACORN, a coalition of anti-poverty groups that disbanded this year after allegations of voter fraud.

"With the demise of ACORN, the left needs somebody to pick up that function," he says.

What happens when there are more voters on welfare than voters that work?what


maybe then we address the issue of jobs and employment,,,



But what if more voters would prefer not to work and stay on welfare?what





thats not the nature of american culture

to be satisfied with 'basics' provided in welfare
when they could 'work' and buy all those nice things......

??

not gonna happen

most voters would prefer an INCOME That permitted some type of LIFE,,,beyond mere existence

But what if American culture has changed? If politicians promise all those nice things with not having to work,just to get elected. They would vote for him(or her). wouldn't they?what




lol, yeah,, just like the rich would vote for them if they promised to provide them with endless hard working servants/free labor

but those what ifs are fairly improbable ....



politicians take place in history by mere virtue of holding office,,none want to be written off as having made such broad , unreasonable, unattainable promises,,,

oldhippie1952's photo
Wed 07/04/12 08:30 AM
I don't see anything wrong with more people exercising their right to vote, as long as they are legal.

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/04/12 08:32 AM

I don't see anything wrong with more people exercising their right to vote, as long as they are legal.



I wish more would vote, plenty of people made sacrifices for that right.

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Wed 07/04/12 08:39 AM






The recession that impoverished millions of Americans is producing a side effect: new voters.

Lawsuits by voting rights groups in Missouri and Ohio have led hundreds of thousands of people to file voter registration applications at welfare agencies, as mandated by the 1993 National Voter Registration Act, or the "motor voter" law. Cases pending in Indiana, New Mexico and other states, as well as new Justice Department guidelines, probably will boost those figures.
Voting rights advocates say millions of low-income people could be registered this way. A U.S. Election Assistance Commission report in 2007-08 showed 21 states registered less than 1% of voters at welfare offices. Only Vermont, Tennessee and New York registered more than 4% that way.

An increase could help President Obama and his party. A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll in June showed 55% of Americans with incomes less than $20,000 like Obama's performance, tied for his best showing among income groups.

Those numbers could influence elections. Nearly 90% of registered voters cast ballots in 2008, according to the Census Bureau. Republican John McCain won Missouri by 4,000 votes in 2008.

The Census Bureau says 71% of eligible Americans were registered to vote in 2008, but only 64% of those with family incomes less than $20,000 did so. "When you're on food stamps, your primary concern is where your next meal is going to come from," says Nicole Kovite of Project Vote, one of the litigants.

The 1993 law requires most states to offer voter registration at motor vehicles offices, social services agencies and other sites. More than 2.6 million people filled out voter registration applications at public aid offices in 1995-96, or 6.3% of all applicants. The number dropped below 1 million by 2007-08.

Donetta Davidson, who chairs the Election Assistance Commission, sees ample reason for the lawsuits. "I think these groups have a reason to holler 'foul,' " she says. "Things fall through the cracks, and you don't want to disenfranchise your voters."

Jason Torchinsky, a former Justice Department lawyer in the Bush administration, says liberal groups want welfare offices to replace the work of ACORN, a coalition of anti-poverty groups that disbanded this year after allegations of voter fraud.

"With the demise of ACORN, the left needs somebody to pick up that function," he says.

What happens when there are more voters on welfare than voters that work?what


maybe then we address the issue of jobs and employment,,,



But what if more voters would prefer not to work and stay on welfare?what





thats not the nature of american culture

to be satisfied with 'basics' provided in welfare
when they could 'work' and buy all those nice things......

??

not gonna happen

most voters would prefer an INCOME That permitted some type of LIFE,,,beyond mere existence

But what if American culture has changed? If politicians promise all those nice things with not having to work,just to get elected. They would vote for him(or her). wouldn't they?what




lol, yeah,, just like the rich would vote for them if they promised to provide them with endless hard working servants/free labor

but those what ifs are fairly improbable ....



politicians take place in history by mere virtue of holding office,,none want to be written off as having made such broad , unreasonable, unattainable promises,,,

Politicians want to get elected, first and foremost, As I have seen many of them, will promise what will get them elected. Saying that they won't is not being realistic and there are many who believe them.
Promises aside, if there are more voters on welfare than those who are not. Who will prevail? The people who work or the people on welfare? What will the people who get up and go to work want to do?


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Wed 07/04/12 08:40 AM

The recession that impoverished millions of Americans is producing a side effect: new voters.

Lawsuits by voting rights groups in Missouri and Ohio have led hundreds of thousands of people to file voter registration applications at welfare agencies, as mandated by the 1993 National Voter Registration Act, or the "motor voter" law. Cases pending in Indiana, New Mexico and other states, as well as new Justice Department guidelines, probably will boost those figures.
Voting rights advocates say millions of low-income people could be registered this way. A U.S. Election Assistance Commission report in 2007-08 showed 21 states registered less than 1% of voters at welfare offices. Only Vermont, Tennessee and New York registered more than 4% that way.

An increase could help President Obama and his party. A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll in June showed 55% of Americans with incomes less than $20,000 like Obama's performance, tied for his best showing among income groups.

Those numbers could influence elections. Nearly 90% of registered voters cast ballots in 2008, according to the Census Bureau. Republican John McCain won Missouri by 4,000 votes in 2008.

The Census Bureau says 71% of eligible Americans were registered to vote in 2008, but only 64% of those with family incomes less than $20,000 did so. "When you're on food stamps, your primary concern is where your next meal is going to come from," says Nicole Kovite of Project Vote, one of the litigants.

The 1993 law requires most states to offer voter registration at motor vehicles offices, social services agencies and other sites. More than 2.6 million people filled out voter registration applications at public aid offices in 1995-96, or 6.3% of all applicants. The number dropped below 1 million by 2007-08.

Donetta Davidson, who chairs the Election Assistance Commission, sees ample reason for the lawsuits. "I think these groups have a reason to holler 'foul,' " she says. "Things fall through the cracks, and you don't want to disenfranchise your voters."

Jason Torchinsky, a former Justice Department lawyer in the Bush administration, says liberal groups want welfare offices to replace the work of ACORN, a coalition of anti-poverty groups that disbanded this year after allegations of voter fraud.

"With the demise of ACORN, the left needs somebody to pick up that function," he says.

What happens when there are more voters on welfare than voters that work?what
Free Lunches Galore and the Demise of The Republic!

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/04/12 08:43 AM







The recession that impoverished millions of Americans is producing a side effect: new voters.

Lawsuits by voting rights groups in Missouri and Ohio have led hundreds of thousands of people to file voter registration applications at welfare agencies, as mandated by the 1993 National Voter Registration Act, or the "motor voter" law. Cases pending in Indiana, New Mexico and other states, as well as new Justice Department guidelines, probably will boost those figures.
Voting rights advocates say millions of low-income people could be registered this way. A U.S. Election Assistance Commission report in 2007-08 showed 21 states registered less than 1% of voters at welfare offices. Only Vermont, Tennessee and New York registered more than 4% that way.

An increase could help President Obama and his party. A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll in June showed 55% of Americans with incomes less than $20,000 like Obama's performance, tied for his best showing among income groups.

Those numbers could influence elections. Nearly 90% of registered voters cast ballots in 2008, according to the Census Bureau. Republican John McCain won Missouri by 4,000 votes in 2008.

The Census Bureau says 71% of eligible Americans were registered to vote in 2008, but only 64% of those with family incomes less than $20,000 did so. "When you're on food stamps, your primary concern is where your next meal is going to come from," says Nicole Kovite of Project Vote, one of the litigants.

The 1993 law requires most states to offer voter registration at motor vehicles offices, social services agencies and other sites. More than 2.6 million people filled out voter registration applications at public aid offices in 1995-96, or 6.3% of all applicants. The number dropped below 1 million by 2007-08.

Donetta Davidson, who chairs the Election Assistance Commission, sees ample reason for the lawsuits. "I think these groups have a reason to holler 'foul,' " she says. "Things fall through the cracks, and you don't want to disenfranchise your voters."

Jason Torchinsky, a former Justice Department lawyer in the Bush administration, says liberal groups want welfare offices to replace the work of ACORN, a coalition of anti-poverty groups that disbanded this year after allegations of voter fraud.

"With the demise of ACORN, the left needs somebody to pick up that function," he says.

What happens when there are more voters on welfare than voters that work?what


maybe then we address the issue of jobs and employment,,,



But what if more voters would prefer not to work and stay on welfare?what





thats not the nature of american culture

to be satisfied with 'basics' provided in welfare
when they could 'work' and buy all those nice things......

??

not gonna happen

most voters would prefer an INCOME That permitted some type of LIFE,,,beyond mere existence

But what if American culture has changed? If politicians promise all those nice things with not having to work,just to get elected. They would vote for him(or her). wouldn't they?what




lol, yeah,, just like the rich would vote for them if they promised to provide them with endless hard working servants/free labor

but those what ifs are fairly improbable ....



politicians take place in history by mere virtue of holding office,,none want to be written off as having made such broad , unreasonable, unattainable promises,,,

Politicians want to get elected, first and foremost, As I have seen many of them, will promise what will get them elected. Saying that they won't is not being realistic and there are many who believe them.
Promises aside, if there are more voters on welfare than those who are not. Who will prevail? The people who work or the people on welfare? What will the people who get up and go to work want to do?





this is the continual assumption that people on welfare DONT WORK,,plenty of working people still receive some type of 'entitlement', so its not about who is working and who isnt


as to those on assistance who arent 'employed' those numbers are only going to reflect the jobs environment, decreasing when jobs are abundant and increasing when they arent

if jobs ever decrease to the point where more people need help than are working,, we have bigger problems,,,

oldhippie1952's photo
Wed 07/04/12 08:45 AM
If there are more "welfare voters" than "working voters", maybe it will make all the non-voting workers get off their duffs and do their voting duty? Could be a good thing to get more people active in selecting our representatives.

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Wed 07/04/12 08:46 AM
Edited by alleoops on Wed 07/04/12 08:48 AM

I don't see anything wrong with more people exercising their right to vote, as long as they are legal.

I don't either. But how they vote could be a disaster to our economy.
Such as more entitlements and higher taxes for those who work.

1 in 7 now on welfare. Should it be 1 in 8, or 1 in 9? Higher?what

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Wed 07/04/12 08:49 AM


the govt has resorted to.. buying votes with food stamps..:laughing:spock

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/04/12 08:50 AM


I don't see anything wrong with more people exercising their right to vote, as long as they are legal.

I don't either. But how they vote could be a disaster to our economy.
Such as more entitlements and higher taxes for those who work.

1 in 7 now on welfare. Should it be 1 in 8, or 1 in 9? Higher?what


lol , yes,, it should be higher
and unemployment should be lower,,,

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Wed 07/04/12 08:55 AM



I don't see anything wrong with more people exercising their right to vote, as long as they are legal.

I don't either. But how they vote could be a disaster to our economy.
Such as more entitlements and higher taxes for those who work.

1 in 7 now on welfare. Should it be 1 in 8, or 1 in 9? Higher?what


lol , yes,, it should be higher
and unemployment should be lower,,,

But isn't the problem, we are creating more welfare voters and fewer job voters?

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/04/12 08:57 AM




I don't see anything wrong with more people exercising their right to vote, as long as they are legal.

I don't either. But how they vote could be a disaster to our economy.
Such as more entitlements and higher taxes for those who work.

1 in 7 now on welfare. Should it be 1 in 8, or 1 in 9? Higher?what


lol , yes,, it should be higher
and unemployment should be lower,,,

But isn't the problem, we are creating more welfare voters and fewer job voters?



we dont 'create' voters

but we are creating more need for welfare because we have fewer jobs,,,

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Wed 07/04/12 09:02 AM
Edited by alleoops on Wed 07/04/12 09:02 AM





I don't see anything wrong with more people exercising their right to vote, as long as they are legal.

I don't either. But how they vote could be a disaster to our economy.
Such as more entitlements and higher taxes for those who work.

1 in 7 now on welfare. Should it be 1 in 8, or 1 in 9? Higher?what


lol , yes,, it should be higher
and unemployment should be lower,,,

But isn't the problem, we are creating more welfare voters and fewer job voters?



we dont 'create' voters

but we are creating more need for welfare because we have fewer jobs,,,



The recession that impoverished millions of Americans is producing a side effect: new voters.
So what happens when more new voters want more subsidy and entitlements and have more votes than people who work and pay taxes?
what

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/04/12 09:07 AM






I don't see anything wrong with more people exercising their right to vote, as long as they are legal.

I don't either. But how they vote could be a disaster to our economy.
Such as more entitlements and higher taxes for those who work.

1 in 7 now on welfare. Should it be 1 in 8, or 1 in 9? Higher?what


lol , yes,, it should be higher
and unemployment should be lower,,,

But isn't the problem, we are creating more welfare voters and fewer job voters?



we dont 'create' voters

but we are creating more need for welfare because we have fewer jobs,,,



The recession that impoverished millions of Americans is producing a side effect: new voters.
So what happens when more new voters want more subsidy and entitlements and have more votes than people who work and pay taxes?
what



a misunderstood concept,, these arent NEW voters

they already could/did vote as members of the employed
and will continue to vote as members of the unemployed

however, there may be new registrations in both the group of employed citizens AND the group of unemployed citizens


the people who influence votes are much more often those with money for campaigns than those with a signature, and the money people will never support a public interest in more personal subsidies because it would take from their own,,,,





Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 07/04/12 09:22 AM

The sad part is that your vote no longer matters anyway! Smoke and mirrors....an illusion!

With money in politics, and the banks and corps the only ones with the money our expensive representatives require for an audience with them (influence peddlers at best!), one banker candidate or another sold to us by the corporate owned or sponsored media, what does it matter who votes or how?

It will always be the same old thing with just another puppet and money pulling the strings!

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