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Topic: Accountability
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Mon 06/25/12 01:17 AM
As a christian, who do you think we are accountable to? Leadership obviously. But when we see our brother or sister falling in to sin, would you speak to them in love? Do you think there needs to be a relationship/friendship first or not?

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Mon 06/25/12 06:49 AM
Edited by CeriseRose on Mon 06/25/12 06:52 AM

As a christian, who do you think we are accountable to? Leadership obviously. But when we see our brother or sister falling in to sin, would you speak to them in love? Do you think there needs to be a relationship/friendship first or not?



Hi Ladywind7!
Your question is a very good one.

We became family in Christ the moment we became baptized in Christ.
Each member's defining moment was when we were born of the spirit.
Our spirit was willing and obedient to Christ. We were walking in the "newness" of the Spirit.
Everyday we should walk in that "newness".


A key word in this teaching is "restore".

"Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault,

ye which are spiritual,

restore such an one in the spirit of meekness;

considering thyself,

lest thou also be tempted."


Galatians 6:1 (Read vs 1-10)

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"Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:
that like as Christ was raised up from the dead
by the glory of the Father,
even so we also should walk in newness of life."
Rom_6:4,

"But now we are delivered from the law,
that being dead wherein we were held;
that we should serve in newness of spirit,
and not in the oldness of the letter."
Rom_7:6,



Totage's photo
Mon 06/25/12 07:32 AM

As a christian, who do you think we are accountable to? Leadership obviously. But when we see our brother or sister falling in to sin, would you speak to them in love? Do you think there needs to be a relationship/friendship first or not?


We are accountable only to God. When I sin against God, I do not ask for forgiveness from my brothers and sisters, I go before the father.

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Mon 06/25/12 09:04 AM
Edited by CeriseRose on Mon 06/25/12 09:22 AM
Question:
"What does the Bible say on the importance of accountability?"

Answer:
With much temptation already in the world today, Satan is working overtime to create even more.
We must have a brother or sister we can count on when we are facing temptations that threaten our spiritual lives.

King David was alone the evening he was tempted into adultery by Satan.
It may have appeared to be Bathsheba who tempted him (2 Samuel 11),
but the Bible tells us we fight a war not of flesh but of the spirit,
against powers and spiritual forces who threaten us (Ephesians 6:12).

Knowing we are in a battle against the forces of darkness,
we should want as much help as we can gather around us.

In Ephesians, Paul tells us that we must be equipped with all the power that God supplies to fight this battle.

“Therefore put on the full armor of God,
so that when the day of evil comes,
you may be able to stand your ground,
and after you have done everything, to stand”
(Ephesians 6:13)
.

Paul realized that even if we equip ourselves with everything God has to offer in defense of evil,
we are still human and we may not always be able to resist Satan’s temptations.
We know without a doubt that temptation will come.

Satan knows our weaknesses, and he knows when we are vulnerable.

He knows when a married couple is fighting and perhaps feeling that someone else might understand them better.
He knows when a child has been punished by his parents and might be feeling spiteful.
He knows when things are not going well at work and knows how that reminds us of the bar that is on the way home.

Where do we find help if we have done all we can do to fight the battle?
We want to do what is right in the sight of God, yet we are weak.
What do we do?

Proverbs 27:17 says,
“Iron sharpens iron;
so a man sharpens his friend's countenance.”


A friend’s countenance is a look or expression of encouragement or moral support.
When is the last time you had a friend call you just to ask how you were doing?
When is the last time you called a friend and asked her if she needed to talk?
Encouragement and moral support from a friend are sometimes the missing ingredients
in fighting the battle against Satan.

The writer of Hebrews summed it up when he said,

“Let us consider how we may spur one another
on toward love and good deeds.
Let us not give up meeting together,
as some are in the habit of doing,
but let us encourage one another
—and all the more as you see the Day approaching…”
(Hebrews 10:24-25).


Accountability is crucially important in the battle to overcome sin.
An accountability partner can be there to encourage you, to rebuke you, to teach you,
to rejoice with you, and to weep with you.
Every Christian should have an accountability partner with whom he or she can pray, talk, confide, and confess.



http://www.gotquestions.org/accountability.html




oldhippie1952's photo
Mon 06/25/12 10:28 AM
That all sounds good ceriserose, but I am like totage. My accountability partner, as you will, is Jesus. He is my friend, my solace and my inspiration and guiding light.

Ladywind7's photo
Mon 06/25/12 11:48 AM
I want to share a dream I had years ago. I saw a close friend fall into sexual sin. I was a young christian, didnt know what to do with the dream, so I did nothing. A year later I saw this happen to her and it ruined her and hurt her. She was my bestie.

Ladywind7's photo
Mon 06/25/12 12:06 PM
Ephesians 5.21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. I am with CR on this one. But it needs to be done with much prayer and in gentleness and love. We are to help each other grow and build each other up.

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Mon 06/25/12 01:37 PM
But, no one person is above another. Yes, some walk closer with the Lord than others, and can help guide us on the right path, but the only one we are accountable to is God. The Lord is the only way to salvation.

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Mon 06/25/12 01:41 PM

As a christian, who do you think we are accountable to? Leadership obviously. But when we see our brother or sister falling in to sin, would you speak to them in love? Do you think there needs to be a relationship/friendship first or not?



we are accountable FOR ourself, we are accountable TO God and whatever earthly authority we agree to answer to on earth that doesnt CONTRADICT God....


I dont feel it is my responsibility to correct the 'sin' of any or all others because I too have sinned.

I do feel it is my responsibility to guide my own children and children in my care away from sinful or dangerous (speaking of spiritual and physical danger) activities,,,

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Mon 06/25/12 02:03 PM
Edited by CeriseRose on Mon 06/25/12 02:11 PM

Ephesians 5.21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. I am with CR on this one. But it needs to be done with much prayer and in gentleness and love. We are to help each other grow and build each other up.



As a christian, who do you think we are accountable to? Leadership obviously.

But when we see our brother or sister falling in to sin, would you speak to them in love? Do you think there needs to be a relationship/friendship first or not?


Of course we are wholly accountable to God.
Yet...
Accountability IS a responsibility.

"And the LORD said unto Cain,
Where is Abel thy brother?
And he said, I know not:
Am I my brother's keeper?"


We ARE our brother's keeper.

The "friendship" or "relationship" is Christ-centered and already established in Heaven.

We are brothers and sisters in Christ.

A "household of faith".

As we have therefore opportunity,
let us do good unto all men,
especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
Galaltian 6:10


Just like family.




Totage's photo
Mon 06/25/12 02:06 PM


As a christian, who do you think we are accountable to? Leadership obviously. But when we see our brother or sister falling in to sin, would you speak to them in love? Do you think there needs to be a relationship/friendship first or not?



we are accountable FOR ourself, we are accountable TO God and whatever earthly authority we agree to answer to on earth that doesnt CONTRADICT God....


I dont feel it is my responsibility to correct the 'sin' of any or all others because I too have sinned.

I do feel it is my responsibility to guide my own children and children in my care away from sinful or dangerous (speaking of spiritual and physical danger) activities,,,


Precisely :)

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Mon 06/25/12 02:17 PM

As a christian, who do you think we are accountable to? Leadership obviously. But when we see our brother or sister falling in to sin, would you speak to them in love? Do you think there needs to be a relationship/friendship first or not?


If you don't already have rapport with the other person, then that other person is unlikely to listen to you.

Ladywind7's photo
Mon 06/25/12 02:17 PM
I believe I am accountable to God first, leadership second. But if a brother or sister has something to say to me, I will listen, weigh it up, take it to God and either appreciate it or dismiss it.

oldhippie1952's photo
Mon 06/25/12 02:18 PM

I believe I am accountable to God first, leadership second. But if a brother or sister has something to say to me, I will listen, weigh it up, take it to God and either appreciate it or dismiss it.


Smart.

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Mon 06/25/12 02:21 PM

But, no one person is above another. Yes, some walk closer with the Lord than others, and can help guide us on the right path, but the only one we are accountable to is God. The Lord is the only way to salvation.


We are not talking about status here. Just being responsible.
Christians have a responsibility 1st to God and then to one another.

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Mon 06/25/12 02:31 PM

I believe I am accountable to God first, leadership second. But if a brother or sister has something to say to me, I will listen, weigh it up, take it to God and either appreciate it or dismiss it.


I agree, when I am specifically requested or asked for guidance/advice, I will by all means offer it.

Otherwise, I am busy with the twig in my own eye,,,,and I almost can always find another twig,,,lol

Totage's photo
Mon 06/25/12 02:40 PM


But, no one person is above another. Yes, some walk closer with the Lord than others, and can help guide us on the right path, but the only one we are accountable to is God. The Lord is the only way to salvation.


We are not talking about status here. Just being responsible.
Christians have a responsibility 1st to God and then to one another.


What do you mean responsible to others? Like helping them when they have a problem or need guidance? If so, I agree with that. If you mean responsible as in confessing our sins to one another, I'm not so sure about that. We must confess our sins to God, yes but not so sure about confessing to others, unless we wronged them in some way or something like that.

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Mon 06/25/12 03:48 PM
Edited by CeriseRose on Mon 06/25/12 03:50 PM



But, no one person is above another. Yes, some walk closer with the Lord than others, and can help guide us on the right path, but the only one we are accountable to is God. The Lord is the only way to salvation.


We are not talking about status here. Just being responsible.
Christians have a responsibility 1st to God and then to one another.


What do you mean responsible to others? Like helping them when they have a problem or need guidance? If so, I agree with that. If you mean responsible as in confessing our sins to one another, I'm not so sure about that. We must confess our sins to God, yes but not so sure about confessing to others, unless we wronged them in some way or something like that.


"Confess your faults one to another,

and pray one for another,

that ye may be healed.

The effectual fervent prayer

of a righteous man availeth much."

James 5:16



Confess your faults. This verse springs from the preceding.

{{{14, "Is any sick among you?
let him call for the elders of the church;
and let them pray over him,
anointing him with oil
in the name of the Lord:
15, And the prayer of faith shall save the sick,
and the Lord shall raise him up;
and if he have committed sins,
they shall be forgiven him."
}}}


We all need healing of our sins.
Let the brother confess his faults as a demonstration of repentance
and let brethren pray for each other.

Repentance, confession and prayer are the conditions
of the forgiveness of sins committed by church members

It is our RESPONSIBILITY to pray for one another.


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Mon 06/25/12 03:59 PM
Edited by CeriseRose on Mon 06/25/12 04:01 PM


I believe I am accountable to God first, leadership second. But if a brother or sister has something to say to me, I will listen, weigh it up, take it to God and either appreciate it or dismiss it.


I agree, when I am specifically requested or asked for guidance/advice, I will by all means offer it.

Otherwise, I am busy with the twig in my own eye,,,,and I almost can always find another twig,,,lol


Msharmony,
If someone was on their deathbed and you knew that they never confessed Christ as savior,
would you not tell them that Jesus died for their sins; and that if they believed on him for salvation they may be saved?

Or would you have to get the twig out of your eye first as they slip away into eternity?



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Mon 06/25/12 04:10 PM

Telling the gospel is simple work.
Praying for others is simple work.
It just takes faith.
The teller of the good news is not self-righteous,
neither is the teller unworthy just because he is not perfect.

If you believe God's Word then tell it!


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