Correct. It doesn't count.

Public opinion remains convinced that surveillance videos of the boarding process had been shown on TV networks.

In fact, what has been shown around the world was not the boarding process of any of the four aircraft but two video recordings, one of which is said to be from Portland airport and the other from Dulles Airport.

The Portland video purports to show alleged hijackers Atta and lomari before they board onto a connecting flight to Boston. Even if this video is authentic and if it actually shows these individuals, it does not show what they did after they arrived in Boston.

The other security video recording is said to be from the screening checkpoint at Dulles Airport, Washington, D.C., from where flight AA77 allegedly departed.


According to all known sources, Logan Airport, Boston, did not have any surveillance cameras on 9/11, neither at the security checkpoints nor above the boarding gates.

No one is known to dispute this fact. According to the 9/11 Commission’s staff, the Newark International Airport, from which flight UA93 reportedly departed, did not either have such equipment.

But this claim has been contradicted by Michael Taylor, president of American International Security Corporation who claims that security cameras had been installed at that airport.

The video recording that has been shown widely purports to show the alleged hijackers of flight AA77 pass through the security checkpoint at Dulles Airport, Washington, D.C. This recording was not voluntarily released by the US government, but was forced out in 2004 under the Freedom Of Information Act.

This video recording can be found on various sites on the Internet.50 Jay Kolar, who published a critical analysis of this recording, pointed out that it does not show the date and time of recording or the camera number.

Security videos typically record such identifying information automatically. He also pointed out further anomalies, such as the unusually bright lighting (which suggest that the recording was not made in the morning) and the fact that a human operator had manipulated the camera in order to zoom on particular subjects (indicating foreknowledge of those subjects).

His conclusion is that someone deliberately decided to film certain persons passing a security checkpoint at a certain time in order to produce “evidence”. The released recording does not show any passengers pass through the security checkpoint. Aside from the dubious source of this recording, it does not show who boarded the aircraft but only a few individuals who passed some security checkpoint at an unknown time.

There are references to news sources and statement to back up these statement in this document, if you are actually interested in TRUTH.


http://newcrisispapers.com/noevidence.pdf

So what do you call your personal attacks on the messenger?

Clearly, evidence doesn't matter, for some are motivated by prejudice borne of ignorance. These individuals are almost insane with hatred, and their reason is diminished by this. It is sad really.

My Mother used to say, "Empty vessels make the most noise". There seems to be some Kettle drums on here.

Sorry we are not privy to all th classified information about 911. Many people are comeing forward who know how the mechanism is supposed to operate.

The Senior (John Farmer) who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry, said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/01/AR2006080101300.html

If the senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission doubts it why should you buy into it?

You call us empty drums..........

payback? the point is that some posts are answers and/or questions directed at a specific poster. if the posts are not about the main topic in the op, than either of the posters should start another thread dealing with the specific topic.

you had stated: "The U.S. government has had 11, years sufficient time to prove the identities of the persons who allegedly boarded and crashed airplanes on 9/11"

i in turn posted a list of the identities

you than dismissed the list stating it was not evidence of a muslim attack on 9/11, to which optomistic posted a second to your post

time and time again you have been given answers to your questions. each time, you either dismiss the answer as a "lie" or bring up another question. it SEEMS that you are seeking an answer that satisfies you (and seemingly optomistic) or you are trolling. i still haven't decided which. so far the only positive thing i see in your posts is that it moves the thread along

Again, I did not ask you for a list of names or possible suspects.

I simply stated that THEY HAVE NO EVIDENCE.

A list of names is not evidence. That's a fact.

again, your exact words (go back and read what you posted)

"The U.S. government has had 11, years sufficient time to prove the identities of the persons who allegedly boarded and crashed airplanes on 9/11"

Yes, and they have not proven anything.

A list of names IS NOT EVIDENCE.

(Seriously how many times do I need to repeat this?)

geeze

They Only Believe Their LEADERS

your question suggests that no list has been provided
"The U.S. government has had 11, years sufficient time to prove the identities of the persons who allegedly boarded and crashed airplanes on 9/11"
a list of names is what you asked for

it seems you want the dead to come back to life
visit you for a cup of tea
and explain to you about jfk, the moon landing, and numerous other topics that have you baffled

It took them 11 years to come up with a list of names of possible suspects?

Okay .... um.... where is the evidence and proof?

yep

I have a list of names of suspects too.

Guess what?

That's not evidence.

it did not take them 11 years to come up with the list. it took you this long to understand that there has been a list

Well er... the actual names kept changing.

And um.... there is STILL NO EVIDENCE.

still no comprehension either. and with that, i will end this discussion because we have strayed from the op. good day jb

In the months following 9/11, reports appeared in mainstream media that at least five of the alleged hijackers were actually living in various Arab countries.

These reports led to speculation that the identities of some of the hijackers were in doubt.

Typical of such reports is an Associated Press dispatch of 3 November 2001, which states: “The FBI released the names and photos of the hijackers in late September. The names were those listed on the planes’ passenger manifests and investigators were certain those were the names the hijackers used when they entered the United States.

But questions remained about whether they were the hijackers’ true identities. The FBI has not disclosed which names were in doubt and [FBI Director] Mueller provided no new information on the hijackers’ identities beyond his statement to reporters.” The 9/11 Commission did neither address at all these doubts nor the reports about the “living hijackers”.

On September 14, 2001, the FBI released the names of the 19 individuals “who have been identified as hijackers aboard the four airliners that crashed on September 11, 2001”.

On September 27, 2001, the FBI released photographs of these 19 individuals. Withdrawing from its unqualified statement of September 14, the new press release said these were photographs the FBI merely “believed to be the hijackers of the four airliners”

Yet for most names no birth date, birthplace or specific residence is given despite the apparent availability of such data on visa application forms and other documentation possessed by the FBI.

The FBI webpage provided the following caveat: “It should be noted that attempts to confirm the true identities of these individuals are still under way.”

This statement, issued on September 27, 2001, still applied in 2008, because the webpage had not been updated since it was initially posted and remains, therefore, the US government’s official designation of the alleged hijackers.

Accordingly, a significant difference exists between the official position of the US government, as reflected by the website of the FBI, regarding the identities of the alleged perpetrators of the crime committed on 9/11 and the popularized version parroted by politicians and the media about the guilt of 19 Muslims for the mass murder of 9/11.

The 9/11 Commission has studiously avoided the question of the alleged hijackers’ identities.

A list of suspects is not Evidence. If you can show me where there is any real evidence please do.

Yes, and I see you're posting the above out of context. These attempts are pathetic.