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Slohand Said This The Palestinians currently have complete political autonomy throughout the West Bank and Gaza. Now if any statement deserved ROTFLMAO Emoticons that does but they would take from the stupidity of the statement. ![]() Just look it up in the Wikipedia or visit the West Bank or Gaza! They have been in political control in the West Bank since the OSLO accords. The Israelis do not govern them at all. Of course Hamas has been in control of Gaza strip since they siezed power after the Israelis pulled their remaining people out too. Israeli authority is limited to security checkpoints solely for the purpose of preventing terrorist attacks. There is nothing preventing the Palestinians from ceasing their hatred and attacks and focusing on their own well being and economy while ignoring Israel. Here are quotes from the Wiki article: The Palestinian Authority (PA; Arabic: السلطة الوطنية الفلسطينية As-Sulṭah Al-Waṭaniyyah Al-Filasṭīniyyah) is the administrative organization established to govern parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, though since 2006 elections and especially the Gaza conflict, its authority extends in the West Bank alone. It has named itself Palestinian National Authority. The Palestinian Authority was formed in 1994, pursuant to the Oslo Accords between the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and the government of Israel, as a five-year interim body, during which final status negotiations between the two parties were to take place. As of 2012, more than seventeen years following the formulation of the PA, a final status has yet to be reached. According to the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority was designated to have control over both security-related and civilian issues in Palestinian urban areas (referred to as "Area A"), and only civilian control over Palestinian rural areas ("Area B"). The remainder of the territories, including Israeli settlements, the Jordan Valley region, and bypass roads between Palestinian communities, were to remain under exclusive Israeli control ("Area C"). It's not funny but the PA has misused their autonomy to foster and educate hatred of Jews and Israelis and have repeatedly failed to take steps to arrest the significant terrorist groups operating from lands under their administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_National_Authority Unfortunately Gaza was siezed by the vile terrorist organization Hamas although they are clearly under Palestinian control they are a Taliban like Al-Qaeda like extremist Islamic fundamentalist thuggery even worse than the Palestinian Authority. Their charter denies the right of existence of Israel and they promote attacks on innocent men, women and children. Hamas openly advocates ethnic cleansing of Jews. You can read more about them too here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Charter Hamas (Arabic: حماس Ḥamās, "enthusiasm", an acronym of حركة المقاومة الاسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah, "Islamic Resistance Movement") is the Palestinian Sunni Islamic or Islamist[5] political party that governs the Gaza Strip. Hamas also has a military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades.[6] Since June 2007 Hamas has governed the Gaza portion of the Palestinian Territories, after it won a majority of seats in the Palestinian Parliament in the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections[7] and then defeated the Fatah political organization in a series of violent clashes. The European Union,[8][9] the United States,[10] Canada, Israel and Japan classify Hamas as a terrorist organization,[11][12] The Hamas Charter (or Covenant), issued in 1988, outlined the organization's position on many issues at the time, identifies Hamas as the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and declares its members to be Muslims who "fear God and raise the banner of Jihad in the face of the oppressors." The charter states "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories,[39] and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.[73][74] The Charter also asserts that through shrewd manipulation of imperial countries and secret societies, Zionists were behind a wide range of events and disasters going as far back in history as the French Revolution. Among the charter's controversial statements is the following: "The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews [and kill them]; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: Oh Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!"[38] The document also quotes Islamic religious texts to provide justification for fighting against and killing the Jews of Israel,[75] presenting the Arab-Israeli conflict as an inherently irreconcilable struggle between Jews and Muslims, and Judaism and Islam,[38] adding that the only way to engage in this struggle between "truth and falsehood" is through Islam and by means of jihad, until victory or martyrdom.[38] The Charter adds that "renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion" of Islam.[76] |
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Yeah, Israel pulled out of Gaza and Hermetically Sealed The Open Air Prison.
You are having a Laugh slo But then again you are always having a laugh while Palestinians suffer. |
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Slohand Said This The Palestinians currently have complete political autonomy throughout the West Bank and Gaza. Now if any statement deserved ROTFLMAO Emoticons that does but they would take from the stupidity of the statement. ![]() Just look it up in the Wikipedia or visit the West Bank or Gaza! They have been in political control in the West Bank since the OSLO accords. The Israelis do not govern them at all. Of course Hamas has been in control of Gaza strip since they siezed power after the Israelis pulled their remaining people out too. Israeli authority is limited to security checkpoints solely for the purpose of preventing terrorist attacks. There is nothing preventing the Palestinians from ceasing their hatred and attacks and focusing on their own well being and economy while ignoring Israel. Here are quotes from the Wiki article: The Palestinian Authority (PA; Arabic: السلطة الوطنية الفلسطينية As-Sulṭah Al-Waṭaniyyah Al-Filasṭīniyyah) is the administrative organization established to govern parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, though since 2006 elections and especially the Gaza conflict, its authority extends in the West Bank alone. It has named itself Palestinian National Authority. The Palestinian Authority was formed in 1994, pursuant to the Oslo Accords between the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and the government of Israel, as a five-year interim body, during which final status negotiations between the two parties were to take place. As of 2012, more than seventeen years following the formulation of the PA, a final status has yet to be reached. According to the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority was designated to have control over both security-related and civilian issues in Palestinian urban areas (referred to as "Area A"), and only civilian control over Palestinian rural areas ("Area B"). The remainder of the territories, including Israeli settlements, the Jordan Valley region, and bypass roads between Palestinian communities, were to remain under exclusive Israeli control ("Area C"). It's not funny but the PA has misused their autonomy to foster and educate hatred of Jews and Israelis and have repeatedly failed to take steps to arrest the significant terrorist groups operating from lands under their administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_National_Authority Unfortunately Gaza was siezed by the vile terrorist organization Hamas although they are clearly under Palestinian control they are a Taliban like Al-Qaeda like extremist Islamic fundamentalist thuggery even worse than the Palestinian Authority. Their charter denies the right of existence of Israel and they promote attacks on innocent men, women and children. Hamas openly advocates ethnic cleansing of Jews. You can read more about them too here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Charter Hamas (Arabic: حماس Ḥamās, "enthusiasm", an acronym of حركة المقاومة الاسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah, "Islamic Resistance Movement") is the Palestinian Sunni Islamic or Islamist[5] political party that governs the Gaza Strip. Hamas also has a military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades.[6] Since June 2007 Hamas has governed the Gaza portion of the Palestinian Territories, after it won a majority of seats in the Palestinian Parliament in the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections[7] and then defeated the Fatah political organization in a series of violent clashes. The European Union,[8][9] the United States,[10] Canada, Israel and Japan classify Hamas as a terrorist organization,[11][12] The Hamas Charter (or Covenant), issued in 1988, outlined the organization's position on many issues at the time, identifies Hamas as the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and declares its members to be Muslims who "fear God and raise the banner of Jihad in the face of the oppressors." The charter states "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories,[39] and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.[73][74] The Charter also asserts that through shrewd manipulation of imperial countries and secret societies, Zionists were behind a wide range of events and disasters going as far back in history as the French Revolution. Among the charter's controversial statements is the following: "The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews [and kill them]; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: Oh Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!"[38] The document also quotes Islamic religious texts to provide justification for fighting against and killing the Jews of Israel,[75] presenting the Arab-Israeli conflict as an inherently irreconcilable struggle between Jews and Muslims, and Judaism and Islam,[38] adding that the only way to engage in this struggle between "truth and falsehood" is through Islam and by means of jihad, until victory or martyrdom.[38] The Charter adds that "renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion" of Islam.[76] come on, dont just take tidbits of wikipedia,,, the WHOLE Story and history between palestine and Israel is much more of a back and forth of offense,, than the one sided version we usually get,,, |
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Optomistic69
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Thu 06/21/12 12:28 PM
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If Wikipedia,
Anti-Semite, Anti-Jew, Anti-Israel and Self-Hating-Jew were taken out of these threads we would be left with peoples opinions only and that would be a good thing. And Not Forgetting The Animated Emoticons |
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Slohand Said This The Palestinians currently have complete political autonomy throughout the West Bank and Gaza. Now if any statement deserved ROTFLMAO Emoticons that does but they would take from the stupidity of the statement. ![]() Just look it up in the Wikipedia or visit the West Bank or Gaza! They have been in political control in the West Bank since the OSLO accords. The Israelis do not govern them at all. Of course Hamas has been in control of Gaza strip since they siezed power after the Israelis pulled their remaining people out too. Israeli authority is limited to security checkpoints solely for the purpose of preventing terrorist attacks. There is nothing preventing the Palestinians from ceasing their hatred and attacks and focusing on their own well being and economy while ignoring Israel. Here are quotes from the Wiki article: The Palestinian Authority (PA; Arabic: السلطة الوطنية الفلسطينية As-Sulṭah Al-Waṭaniyyah Al-Filasṭīniyyah) is the administrative organization established to govern parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, though since 2006 elections and especially the Gaza conflict, its authority extends in the West Bank alone. It has named itself Palestinian National Authority. The Palestinian Authority was formed in 1994, pursuant to the Oslo Accords between the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and the government of Israel, as a five-year interim body, during which final status negotiations between the two parties were to take place. As of 2012, more than seventeen years following the formulation of the PA, a final status has yet to be reached. According to the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority was designated to have control over both security-related and civilian issues in Palestinian urban areas (referred to as "Area A"), and only civilian control over Palestinian rural areas ("Area B"). The remainder of the territories, including Israeli settlements, the Jordan Valley region, and bypass roads between Palestinian communities, were to remain under exclusive Israeli control ("Area C"). It's not funny but the PA has misused their autonomy to foster and educate hatred of Jews and Israelis and have repeatedly failed to take steps to arrest the significant terrorist groups operating from lands under their administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_National_Authority Unfortunately Gaza was siezed by the vile terrorist organization Hamas although they are clearly under Palestinian control they are a Taliban like Al-Qaeda like extremist Islamic fundamentalist thuggery even worse than the Palestinian Authority. Their charter denies the right of existence of Israel and they promote attacks on innocent men, women and children. Hamas openly advocates ethnic cleansing of Jews. You can read more about them too here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Charter Hamas (Arabic: حماس Ḥamās, "enthusiasm", an acronym of حركة المقاومة الاسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah, "Islamic Resistance Movement") is the Palestinian Sunni Islamic or Islamist[5] political party that governs the Gaza Strip. Hamas also has a military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades.[6] Since June 2007 Hamas has governed the Gaza portion of the Palestinian Territories, after it won a majority of seats in the Palestinian Parliament in the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections[7] and then defeated the Fatah political organization in a series of violent clashes. The European Union,[8][9] the United States,[10] Canada, Israel and Japan classify Hamas as a terrorist organization,[11][12] The Hamas Charter (or Covenant), issued in 1988, outlined the organization's position on many issues at the time, identifies Hamas as the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and declares its members to be Muslims who "fear God and raise the banner of Jihad in the face of the oppressors." The charter states "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories,[39] and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.[73][74] The Charter also asserts that through shrewd manipulation of imperial countries and secret societies, Zionists were behind a wide range of events and disasters going as far back in history as the French Revolution. Among the charter's controversial statements is the following: "The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews [and kill them]; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: Oh Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!"[38] The document also quotes Islamic religious texts to provide justification for fighting against and killing the Jews of Israel,[75] presenting the Arab-Israeli conflict as an inherently irreconcilable struggle between Jews and Muslims, and Judaism and Islam,[38] adding that the only way to engage in this struggle between "truth and falsehood" is through Islam and by means of jihad, until victory or martyrdom.[38] The Charter adds that "renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion" of Islam.[76] come on, dont just take tidbits of wikipedia,,, the WHOLE Story and history between palestine and Israel is much more of a back and forth of offense,, than the one sided version we usually get,,, The more one honestly examines both sides of this conflict the more one is struck by the one-sided nature. The Israelis accepting of peaceful and prosperous neighbors and willing to have a Palestinian state adjacent to them and on the other side violent terrorists who attack women and children as a tactic and refuse to accept the right of the Jews to have their own tiny state in the region. It is an extremely simple conflict in that regard. http://youtu.be/63hTOaRu7h4 |
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msharmony
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Thu 06/21/12 12:52 PM
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Slohand Said This The Palestinians currently have complete political autonomy throughout the West Bank and Gaza. Now if any statement deserved ROTFLMAO Emoticons that does but they would take from the stupidity of the statement. ![]() Just look it up in the Wikipedia or visit the West Bank or Gaza! They have been in political control in the West Bank since the OSLO accords. The Israelis do not govern them at all. Of course Hamas has been in control of Gaza strip since they siezed power after the Israelis pulled their remaining people out too. Israeli authority is limited to security checkpoints solely for the purpose of preventing terrorist attacks. There is nothing preventing the Palestinians from ceasing their hatred and attacks and focusing on their own well being and economy while ignoring Israel. Here are quotes from the Wiki article: The Palestinian Authority (PA; Arabic: السلطة الوطنية الفلسطينية As-Sulṭah Al-Waṭaniyyah Al-Filasṭīniyyah) is the administrative organization established to govern parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, though since 2006 elections and especially the Gaza conflict, its authority extends in the West Bank alone. It has named itself Palestinian National Authority. The Palestinian Authority was formed in 1994, pursuant to the Oslo Accords between the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and the government of Israel, as a five-year interim body, during which final status negotiations between the two parties were to take place. As of 2012, more than seventeen years following the formulation of the PA, a final status has yet to be reached. According to the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority was designated to have control over both security-related and civilian issues in Palestinian urban areas (referred to as "Area A"), and only civilian control over Palestinian rural areas ("Area B"). The remainder of the territories, including Israeli settlements, the Jordan Valley region, and bypass roads between Palestinian communities, were to remain under exclusive Israeli control ("Area C"). It's not funny but the PA has misused their autonomy to foster and educate hatred of Jews and Israelis and have repeatedly failed to take steps to arrest the significant terrorist groups operating from lands under their administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_National_Authority Unfortunately Gaza was siezed by the vile terrorist organization Hamas although they are clearly under Palestinian control they are a Taliban like Al-Qaeda like extremist Islamic fundamentalist thuggery even worse than the Palestinian Authority. Their charter denies the right of existence of Israel and they promote attacks on innocent men, women and children. Hamas openly advocates ethnic cleansing of Jews. You can read more about them too here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Charter Hamas (Arabic: حماس Ḥamās, "enthusiasm", an acronym of حركة المقاومة الاسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah, "Islamic Resistance Movement") is the Palestinian Sunni Islamic or Islamist[5] political party that governs the Gaza Strip. Hamas also has a military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades.[6] Since June 2007 Hamas has governed the Gaza portion of the Palestinian Territories, after it won a majority of seats in the Palestinian Parliament in the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections[7] and then defeated the Fatah political organization in a series of violent clashes. The European Union,[8][9] the United States,[10] Canada, Israel and Japan classify Hamas as a terrorist organization,[11][12] The Hamas Charter (or Covenant), issued in 1988, outlined the organization's position on many issues at the time, identifies Hamas as the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and declares its members to be Muslims who "fear God and raise the banner of Jihad in the face of the oppressors." The charter states "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories,[39] and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.[73][74] The Charter also asserts that through shrewd manipulation of imperial countries and secret societies, Zionists were behind a wide range of events and disasters going as far back in history as the French Revolution. Among the charter's controversial statements is the following: "The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews [and kill them]; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: Oh Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!"[38] The document also quotes Islamic religious texts to provide justification for fighting against and killing the Jews of Israel,[75] presenting the Arab-Israeli conflict as an inherently irreconcilable struggle between Jews and Muslims, and Judaism and Islam,[38] adding that the only way to engage in this struggle between "truth and falsehood" is through Islam and by means of jihad, until victory or martyrdom.[38] The Charter adds that "renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion" of Islam.[76] come on, dont just take tidbits of wikipedia,,, the WHOLE Story and history between palestine and Israel is much more of a back and forth of offense,, than the one sided version we usually get,,, The more one honestly examines both sides of this conflict the more one is struck by the one-sided nature. The Israelis accepting of peaceful and prosperous neighbors and willing to have a Palestinian state adjacent to them and on the other side violent terrorists who attack women and children as a tactic and refuse to accept the right of the Jews to have their own tiny state in the region. It is an extremely simple conflict in that regard. http://youtu.be/63hTOaRu7h4 I just dont see it as that simple, sorry what if UN gave the west coast to mexicans? wouldnt you expect the mexicans to be 'accepting' of such an arrangement? why wouldnt they be? and why wouldnt they hope it would happen peacefully and without protest or conflict? do you think those displaced americans would be or should be? |
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Slohand Said This The Palestinians currently have complete political autonomy throughout the West Bank and Gaza. Now if any statement deserved ROTFLMAO Emoticons that does but they would take from the stupidity of the statement. ![]() Just look it up in the Wikipedia or visit the West Bank or Gaza! They have been in political control in the West Bank since the OSLO accords. The Israelis do not govern them at all. Of course Hamas has been in control of Gaza strip since they siezed power after the Israelis pulled their remaining people out too. Israeli authority is limited to security checkpoints solely for the purpose of preventing terrorist attacks. There is nothing preventing the Palestinians from ceasing their hatred and attacks and focusing on their own well being and economy while ignoring Israel. Here are quotes from the Wiki article: The Palestinian Authority (PA; Arabic: السلطة الوطنية الفلسطينية As-Sulṭah Al-Waṭaniyyah Al-Filasṭīniyyah) is the administrative organization established to govern parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, though since 2006 elections and especially the Gaza conflict, its authority extends in the West Bank alone. It has named itself Palestinian National Authority. The Palestinian Authority was formed in 1994, pursuant to the Oslo Accords between the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and the government of Israel, as a five-year interim body, during which final status negotiations between the two parties were to take place. As of 2012, more than seventeen years following the formulation of the PA, a final status has yet to be reached. According to the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority was designated to have control over both security-related and civilian issues in Palestinian urban areas (referred to as "Area A"), and only civilian control over Palestinian rural areas ("Area B"). The remainder of the territories, including Israeli settlements, the Jordan Valley region, and bypass roads between Palestinian communities, were to remain under exclusive Israeli control ("Area C"). It's not funny but the PA has misused their autonomy to foster and educate hatred of Jews and Israelis and have repeatedly failed to take steps to arrest the significant terrorist groups operating from lands under their administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_National_Authority Unfortunately Gaza was siezed by the vile terrorist organization Hamas although they are clearly under Palestinian control they are a Taliban like Al-Qaeda like extremist Islamic fundamentalist thuggery even worse than the Palestinian Authority. Their charter denies the right of existence of Israel and they promote attacks on innocent men, women and children. Hamas openly advocates ethnic cleansing of Jews. You can read more about them too here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Charter Hamas (Arabic: حماس Ḥamās, "enthusiasm", an acronym of حركة المقاومة الاسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah, "Islamic Resistance Movement") is the Palestinian Sunni Islamic or Islamist[5] political party that governs the Gaza Strip. Hamas also has a military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades.[6] Since June 2007 Hamas has governed the Gaza portion of the Palestinian Territories, after it won a majority of seats in the Palestinian Parliament in the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections[7] and then defeated the Fatah political organization in a series of violent clashes. The European Union,[8][9] the United States,[10] Canada, Israel and Japan classify Hamas as a terrorist organization,[11][12] The Hamas Charter (or Covenant), issued in 1988, outlined the organization's position on many issues at the time, identifies Hamas as the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and declares its members to be Muslims who "fear God and raise the banner of Jihad in the face of the oppressors." The charter states "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories,[39] and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.[73][74] The Charter also asserts that through shrewd manipulation of imperial countries and secret societies, Zionists were behind a wide range of events and disasters going as far back in history as the French Revolution. Among the charter's controversial statements is the following: "The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews [and kill them]; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: Oh Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!"[38] The document also quotes Islamic religious texts to provide justification for fighting against and killing the Jews of Israel,[75] presenting the Arab-Israeli conflict as an inherently irreconcilable struggle between Jews and Muslims, and Judaism and Islam,[38] adding that the only way to engage in this struggle between "truth and falsehood" is through Islam and by means of jihad, until victory or martyrdom.[38] The Charter adds that "renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion" of Islam.[76] come on, dont just take tidbits of wikipedia,,, the WHOLE Story and history between palestine and Israel is much more of a back and forth of offense,, than the one sided version we usually get,,, The more one honestly examines both sides of this conflict the more one is struck by the one-sided nature. The Israelis accepting of peaceful and prosperous neighbors and willing to have a Palestinian state adjacent to them and on the other side violent terrorists who attack women and children as a tactic and refuse to accept the right of the Jews to have their own tiny state in the region. It is an extremely simple conflict in that regard. http://youtu.be/63hTOaRu7h4 I just dont see it as that simple, sorry what if UN gave the west coast to mexicans? wouldnt you expect the mexicans to be 'accepting' of such an arrangement? why wouldnt they be? and why wouldnt they hope it would happen peacefully and without protest or conflict? do you think those displaced americans would be or should be? This made up analogy with Mexicans is not germane. No one "gave" someone else's land to the Jewish settlers in the Palestine Mandate administered by the British after the fall of the Ottoman empire. Jews themselves desperate to escape persecution and annihilation in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Egypt and throughout the Mideast and in Europe emigrated to join Jews already in Israel since they were not welcomed in other countries. Jews bought land there at exorbitant prices and immigrated where there could be strength in numbers and a tolerant receptive society. The Arabs in the surrounding regions and Islamic extremists objected to the idea of a Jewish state in the region even on the Jews traditional homeland on land they bought themselves. Even so, the UN attempted to broker a settlement by dividing the region into a tiny Jewish area and much larger Arabic country side by side. The Jews gratefully accepted the modest UN partition plan. The ARABS rejected it and declared war. After the war, Israel was re-created. There was no land stealing there was no UN gifting. There was no previously existing Palestian state or people - just Jews seeking freedom and safety and Arabs fighting them on the basis of their religion. Little has changed after all this time.... |
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Slohand Said This The Palestinians currently have complete political autonomy throughout the West Bank and Gaza. Now if any statement deserved ROTFLMAO Emoticons that does but they would take from the stupidity of the statement. ![]() Just look it up in the Wikipedia or visit the West Bank or Gaza! They have been in political control in the West Bank since the OSLO accords. The Israelis do not govern them at all. Of course Hamas has been in control of Gaza strip since they siezed power after the Israelis pulled their remaining people out too. Israeli authority is limited to security checkpoints solely for the purpose of preventing terrorist attacks. There is nothing preventing the Palestinians from ceasing their hatred and attacks and focusing on their own well being and economy while ignoring Israel. Here are quotes from the Wiki article: The Palestinian Authority (PA; Arabic: السلطة الوطنية الفلسطينية As-Sulṭah Al-Waṭaniyyah Al-Filasṭīniyyah) is the administrative organization established to govern parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, though since 2006 elections and especially the Gaza conflict, its authority extends in the West Bank alone. It has named itself Palestinian National Authority. The Palestinian Authority was formed in 1994, pursuant to the Oslo Accords between the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and the government of Israel, as a five-year interim body, during which final status negotiations between the two parties were to take place. As of 2012, more than seventeen years following the formulation of the PA, a final status has yet to be reached. According to the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority was designated to have control over both security-related and civilian issues in Palestinian urban areas (referred to as "Area A"), and only civilian control over Palestinian rural areas ("Area B"). The remainder of the territories, including Israeli settlements, the Jordan Valley region, and bypass roads between Palestinian communities, were to remain under exclusive Israeli control ("Area C"). It's not funny but the PA has misused their autonomy to foster and educate hatred of Jews and Israelis and have repeatedly failed to take steps to arrest the significant terrorist groups operating from lands under their administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_National_Authority Unfortunately Gaza was siezed by the vile terrorist organization Hamas although they are clearly under Palestinian control they are a Taliban like Al-Qaeda like extremist Islamic fundamentalist thuggery even worse than the Palestinian Authority. Their charter denies the right of existence of Israel and they promote attacks on innocent men, women and children. Hamas openly advocates ethnic cleansing of Jews. You can read more about them too here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Charter Hamas (Arabic: حماس Ḥamās, "enthusiasm", an acronym of حركة المقاومة الاسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah, "Islamic Resistance Movement") is the Palestinian Sunni Islamic or Islamist[5] political party that governs the Gaza Strip. Hamas also has a military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades.[6] Since June 2007 Hamas has governed the Gaza portion of the Palestinian Territories, after it won a majority of seats in the Palestinian Parliament in the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections[7] and then defeated the Fatah political organization in a series of violent clashes. The European Union,[8][9] the United States,[10] Canada, Israel and Japan classify Hamas as a terrorist organization,[11][12] The Hamas Charter (or Covenant), issued in 1988, outlined the organization's position on many issues at the time, identifies Hamas as the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and declares its members to be Muslims who "fear God and raise the banner of Jihad in the face of the oppressors." The charter states "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories,[39] and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.[73][74] The Charter also asserts that through shrewd manipulation of imperial countries and secret societies, Zionists were behind a wide range of events and disasters going as far back in history as the French Revolution. Among the charter's controversial statements is the following: "The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews [and kill them]; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: Oh Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!"[38] The document also quotes Islamic religious texts to provide justification for fighting against and killing the Jews of Israel,[75] presenting the Arab-Israeli conflict as an inherently irreconcilable struggle between Jews and Muslims, and Judaism and Islam,[38] adding that the only way to engage in this struggle between "truth and falsehood" is through Islam and by means of jihad, until victory or martyrdom.[38] The Charter adds that "renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion" of Islam.[76] come on, dont just take tidbits of wikipedia,,, the WHOLE Story and history between palestine and Israel is much more of a back and forth of offense,, than the one sided version we usually get,,, The more one honestly examines both sides of this conflict the more one is struck by the one-sided nature. The Israelis accepting of peaceful and prosperous neighbors and willing to have a Palestinian state adjacent to them and on the other side violent terrorists who attack women and children as a tactic and refuse to accept the right of the Jews to have their own tiny state in the region. It is an extremely simple conflict in that regard. http://youtu.be/63hTOaRu7h4 I just dont see it as that simple, sorry what if UN gave the west coast to mexicans? wouldnt you expect the mexicans to be 'accepting' of such an arrangement? why wouldnt they be? and why wouldnt they hope it would happen peacefully and without protest or conflict? do you think those displaced americans would be or should be? This made up analogy with Mexicans is not germane. No one "gave" someone else's land to the Jewish settlers in the Palestine Mandate administered by the British after the fall of the Ottoman empire. Jews themselves desperate to escape persecution and annihilation in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Egypt and throughout the Mideast and in Europe emigrated to join Jews already in Israel since they were not welcomed in other countries. Jews bought land there at exorbitant prices and immigrated where there could be strength in numbers and a tolerant receptive society. The Arabs in the surrounding regions and Islamic extremists objected to the idea of a Jewish state in the region even on the Jews traditional homeland on land they bought themselves. Even so, the UN attempted to broker a settlement by dividing the region into a tiny Jewish area and much larger Arabic country side by side. The Jews gratefully accepted the modest UN partition plan. The ARABS rejected it and declared war. After the war, Israel was re-created. There was no land stealing there was no UN gifting. There was no previously existing Palestian state or people - just Jews seeking freedom and safety and Arabs fighting them on the basis of their religion. Little has changed after all this time.... If we're going to do analogies, lets do the US-Mexican War, 1846 - 1848... Cause?...The annexation of Texas in 1945... Why?...Inspite of the Texas Revolution, Mexico considered it their land or territory... Who won?...America... Outcome...The "TREATY" of Guadalupe... See the problem yet?... TERRORISTS DON"T DO TREATIES...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Slohand Said This The Palestinians currently have complete political autonomy throughout the West Bank and Gaza. Now if any statement deserved ROTFLMAO Emoticons that does but they would take from the stupidity of the statement. ![]() Just look it up in the Wikipedia or visit the West Bank or Gaza! They have been in political control in the West Bank since the OSLO accords. The Israelis do not govern them at all. Of course Hamas has been in control of Gaza strip since they siezed power after the Israelis pulled their remaining people out too. Israeli authority is limited to security checkpoints solely for the purpose of preventing terrorist attacks. There is nothing preventing the Palestinians from ceasing their hatred and attacks and focusing on their own well being and economy while ignoring Israel. Here are quotes from the Wiki article: The Palestinian Authority (PA; Arabic: السلطة الوطنية الفلسطينية As-Sulṭah Al-Waṭaniyyah Al-Filasṭīniyyah) is the administrative organization established to govern parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, though since 2006 elections and especially the Gaza conflict, its authority extends in the West Bank alone. It has named itself Palestinian National Authority. The Palestinian Authority was formed in 1994, pursuant to the Oslo Accords between the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and the government of Israel, as a five-year interim body, during which final status negotiations between the two parties were to take place. As of 2012, more than seventeen years following the formulation of the PA, a final status has yet to be reached. According to the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority was designated to have control over both security-related and civilian issues in Palestinian urban areas (referred to as "Area A"), and only civilian control over Palestinian rural areas ("Area B"). The remainder of the territories, including Israeli settlements, the Jordan Valley region, and bypass roads between Palestinian communities, were to remain under exclusive Israeli control ("Area C"). It's not funny but the PA has misused their autonomy to foster and educate hatred of Jews and Israelis and have repeatedly failed to take steps to arrest the significant terrorist groups operating from lands under their administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_National_Authority Unfortunately Gaza was siezed by the vile terrorist organization Hamas although they are clearly under Palestinian control they are a Taliban like Al-Qaeda like extremist Islamic fundamentalist thuggery even worse than the Palestinian Authority. Their charter denies the right of existence of Israel and they promote attacks on innocent men, women and children. Hamas openly advocates ethnic cleansing of Jews. You can read more about them too here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Charter Hamas (Arabic: حماس Ḥamās, "enthusiasm", an acronym of حركة المقاومة الاسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah, "Islamic Resistance Movement") is the Palestinian Sunni Islamic or Islamist[5] political party that governs the Gaza Strip. Hamas also has a military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades.[6] Since June 2007 Hamas has governed the Gaza portion of the Palestinian Territories, after it won a majority of seats in the Palestinian Parliament in the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections[7] and then defeated the Fatah political organization in a series of violent clashes. The European Union,[8][9] the United States,[10] Canada, Israel and Japan classify Hamas as a terrorist organization,[11][12] The Hamas Charter (or Covenant), issued in 1988, outlined the organization's position on many issues at the time, identifies Hamas as the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and declares its members to be Muslims who "fear God and raise the banner of Jihad in the face of the oppressors." The charter states "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories,[39] and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.[73][74] The Charter also asserts that through shrewd manipulation of imperial countries and secret societies, Zionists were behind a wide range of events and disasters going as far back in history as the French Revolution. Among the charter's controversial statements is the following: "The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews [and kill them]; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: Oh Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!"[38] The document also quotes Islamic religious texts to provide justification for fighting against and killing the Jews of Israel,[75] presenting the Arab-Israeli conflict as an inherently irreconcilable struggle between Jews and Muslims, and Judaism and Islam,[38] adding that the only way to engage in this struggle between "truth and falsehood" is through Islam and by means of jihad, until victory or martyrdom.[38] The Charter adds that "renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion" of Islam.[76] come on, dont just take tidbits of wikipedia,,, the WHOLE Story and history between palestine and Israel is much more of a back and forth of offense,, than the one sided version we usually get,,, The more one honestly examines both sides of this conflict the more one is struck by the one-sided nature. The Israelis accepting of peaceful and prosperous neighbors and willing to have a Palestinian state adjacent to them and on the other side violent terrorists who attack women and children as a tactic and refuse to accept the right of the Jews to have their own tiny state in the region. It is an extremely simple conflict in that regard. http://youtu.be/63hTOaRu7h4 I just dont see it as that simple, sorry what if UN gave the west coast to mexicans? wouldnt you expect the mexicans to be 'accepting' of such an arrangement? why wouldnt they be? and why wouldnt they hope it would happen peacefully and without protest or conflict? do you think those displaced americans would be or should be? This made up analogy with Mexicans is not germane. No one "gave" someone else's land to the Jewish settlers in the Palestine Mandate administered by the British after the fall of the Ottoman empire. Jews themselves desperate to escape persecution and annihilation in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Egypt and throughout the Mideast and in Europe emigrated to join Jews already in Israel since they were not welcomed in other countries. Jews bought land there at exorbitant prices and immigrated where there could be strength in numbers and a tolerant receptive society. The Arabs in the surrounding regions and Islamic extremists objected to the idea of a Jewish state in the region even on the Jews traditional homeland on land they bought themselves. Even so, the UN attempted to broker a settlement by dividing the region into a tiny Jewish area and much larger Arabic country side by side. The Jews gratefully accepted the modest UN partition plan. The ARABS rejected it and declared war. After the war, Israel was re-created. There was no land stealing there was no UN gifting. There was no previously existing Palestian state or people - just Jews seeking freedom and safety and Arabs fighting them on the basis of their religion. Little has changed after all this time.... If we're going to do analogies, lets do the US-Mexican War, 1846 - 1848... Cause?...The annexation of Texas in 1945... Why?...Inspite of the Texas Revolution, Mexico considered it their land or territory... Who won?...America... Outcome...The "TREATY" of Guadalupe... See the problem yet?... TERRORISTS DON"T DO TREATIES...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![]() |
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