Topic: A Young Jew’s Progress
Optomistic69's photo
Tue 06/19/12 01:19 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Tue 06/19/12 01:21 PM
The first step, which many, including those in the Jewish community,

have begun to do, is to acknowledge that there is a problem and not to

gloss over it as a "millennia-old religious conflict." I am not a

self-hating Jew. I do not think all Jews are racist and bigoted. I also

do not believe that to be Jewish is to be entirely supportive of the

State of Israel. The kind of hate that has been directed at me – not

because I shot rockets into Israel but simply because I express

different views and that I traveled to an unfortunately

controversial place – has, in its extreme-ness, caught me off guard.

I expected outrage. I did not expect to lose a friend.


Morgan Elzey

http://mondoweiss.net/2010/03/katrina-to-birthright-to-gaza-a-young-jews-progress.html

msharmony's photo
Tue 06/19/12 01:22 PM

The first step, which many, including those in the Jewish community,

have begun to do, is to acknowledge that there is a problem and not to

gloss over it as a "millennia-old religious conflict." I am not a

self-hating Jew. I do not think all Jews are racist and bigoted. I also

do not believe that to be Jewish is to be entirely supportive of the

State of Israel. The kind of hate that has been directed at me – not

because I shot rockets into Israel but simply because I express

different views and that I traveled to an unfortunately

controversial place – has, in its extreme-ness, caught me off guard.

I expected outrage. I did not expect to lose a friend.


Morgan Elzey

http://mondoweiss.net/2010/03/katrina-to-birthright-to-gaza-a-young-jews-progress.html



hate is rarely productive, not NEVER productive,, but rarely,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 06/19/12 01:40 PM
yep,don't you just love Philip Weiss?:laughing:

msharmony's photo
Tue 06/19/12 01:41 PM
no offense, but I dont even know who Phillip Weiss is,,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 06/19/12 01:43 PM

no offense, but I dont even know who Phillip Weiss is,,,,
Google him!
Or better,read some of his MONDOWEISS Site!laugh

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Tue 06/19/12 06:03 PM
More anti-semitic propaganda. yawn

s1owhand's photo
Tue 06/19/12 07:03 PM
asleep

Yep. More antisemitic propaganda.

Optomistic69's photo
Wed 06/20/12 02:25 PM
" Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo.

Morgan Elzey

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 06/20/12 02:45 PM

" Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo.

Morgan Elzey
yep,Roehm and Goebbels would be proud of Herr Weiss' Jewbaiting!
By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make!

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Wed 06/20/12 02:49 PM


" Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo.

Morgan Elzey
yep,Roehm and Goebbels would be proud of Herr Weiss' Jewbaiting!
By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make!


People can't "disagree with Israel."

Israel does not have an opinion. It is not alive or conscious.

People, including JEWS can DISAGREE with Rothschilds Zionist agenda.




Optomistic69's photo
Wed 06/20/12 03:07 PM


" Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo.

Morgan Elzey
yep,Roehm and Goebbels would be proud of Herr Weiss' Jewbaiting!
By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make!


I wonder if Morgan Elzey could be classed as a Self-Hating Zionist seeing as his friends considered him to be a Zionist.laugh laugh laugh




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Wed 06/20/12 03:09 PM



" Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo.

Morgan Elzey
yep,Roehm and Goebbels would be proud of Herr Weiss' Jewbaiting!
By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make!


I wonder if Morgan Elzey could be classed as a Self-Hating Zionist seeing as his friends considered him to be a Zionist.laugh laugh laugh






Zionists should be self hating. laugh laugh

s1owhand's photo
Sat 06/23/12 02:47 AM




" Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo.

Morgan Elzey
yep,Roehm and Goebbels would be proud of Herr Weiss' Jewbaiting!
By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make!


I wonder if Morgan Elzey could be classed as a Self-Hating Zionist seeing as his friends considered him to be a Zionist.laugh laugh laugh






Zionists should be self hating. laugh laugh



Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism
Robert Wistrich1

http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-wistrich-f04.htm

Anti-Zionism has become the most dangerous and effective form of anti- Semitism in our time, through its systematic delegitimization, defamation, and demonization of Israel. Although not a priori anti-Semitic, the calls to dismantle the Jewish state, whether they come from Muslims, the Left, or the radical Right, increasingly rely on an anti-Semitic stereotypization of classic themes, such as the manipulative "Jewish lobby," the Jewish/Zionist "world conspiracy," and Jewish/Israeli "warmongers." One major driving force of this anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism is the transformation of the Palestinian cause into a "holy war"; another source is anti-Americanism linked with fundamentalist Islamism. In the current context, classic conspiracy theories, such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, are enjoying a spectacular revival. The common denominator of the new anti-Zionism has been the systematic effort to criminalize Israeli and Jewish behavior, so as to place it beyond the pale of civilized and acceptable conduct.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 06/23/12 04:04 AM


" Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo.
Morgan Elzey
yep,Roehm and Goebbels would be proud of Herr Weiss' Jewbaiting!
By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make!
and Weiis is still a Jewish Jewbaiter,totally in the Mold of George Soros!
And his Website proves it!
The Slime posted in the Comments on the Site,and being left there is further proof of what he is!

SELFHATING!
And all the Obfuscations of the Israel/Jewhaters make any difference!

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 06/23/12 04:05 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 06/23/12 04:40 AM


" Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo.
Morgan Elzey
yep,Roehm and Goebbels would be proud of Herr Weiss' Jewbaiting!
By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make!
and Weiss is still a Jewish Jewbaiter,totally in the Mold of George Soros!
And his Website proves it!
The Slime posted in the Comments on the Site,and being left there is further proof of what he is!

SELFHATING!
And none of the Obfuscations of the Israel/Jewhaters makes any difference!

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 06/23/12 04:08 AM



Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism
Robert Wistrich1

http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-wistrich-f04.htm

Anti-Zionism has become the most dangerous and effective form of anti- Semitism in our time, through its systematic delegitimization, defamation, and demonization of Israel. Although not a priori anti-Semitic, the calls to dismantle the Jewish state, whether they come from Muslims, the Left, or the radical Right, increasingly rely on an anti-Semitic stereotypization of classic themes, such as the manipulative "Jewish lobby," the Jewish/Zionist "world conspiracy," and Jewish/Israeli "warmongers." One major driving force of this anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism is the transformation of the Palestinian cause into a "holy war"; another source is anti-Americanism linked with fundamentalist Islamism. In the current context, classic conspiracy theories, such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, are enjoying a spectacular revival. The common denominator of the new anti-Zionism has been the systematic effort to criminalize Israeli and Jewish behavior, so as to place it beyond the pale of civilized and acceptable conduct.

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Sat 06/23/12 04:22 AM




Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism
Robert Wistrich1

http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-wistrich-f04.htm

Anti-Zionism has become the most dangerous and effective form of anti- Semitism in our time, through its systematic delegitimization, defamation, and demonization of Israel. Although not a priori anti-Semitic, the calls to dismantle the Jewish state, whether they come from Muslims, the Left, or the radical Right, increasingly rely on an anti-Semitic stereotypization of classic themes, such as the manipulative "Jewish lobby," the Jewish/Zionist "world conspiracy," and Jewish/Israeli "warmongers." One major driving force of this anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism is the transformation of the Palestinian cause into a "holy war"; another source is anti-Americanism linked with fundamentalist Islamism. In the current context, classic conspiracy theories, such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, are enjoying a spectacular revival. The common denominator of the new anti-Zionism has been the systematic effort to criminalize Israeli and Jewish behavior, so as to place it beyond the pale of civilized and acceptable conduct.