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Topic: PRES. OBAMA'S ATLANTA CAMPAIGN OPENING
Lpdon's photo
Sun 06/10/12 02:04 PM

He should be arrested and put in prison for treason.


:thumbsup:

Lpdon's photo
Sun 06/10/12 02:09 PM

i know where i'm at; this is the only state that would vote for newt gingrich. it ain't just politics, white georgians outside of metro atlanta, would keep black people in chains or football fields. georgia state university just announced that more blacks are graduating from there than any other school in the state and one day later, a board meeting was called to up the admission's scores. this is the state that would rather send illegals somewhere else, as long as they don't have to deal with them now that the housing boom is over and they have legal somali's and russians to fill the void.

atlanta has always been known as "the mecca of black america." i'll never understand that crap. sure it has great houses for the money, good colleges, but they don't educate the masses unless they come out of gwinnett county. so, who gives a rat's *** about you saying, "it's political." it's always been about race. the reason you won't vote for obama is (1) he's black, (2) you think he's a muslim, (3) he's black and (4) if you were being led down an alley, you'd rather it be someone that looked like you.

i got news for you, americans would rather have someone in the white house that looks black, than a mormon or a jew. so it's about race!


Looks like the only person concerned about race or religion is you since no one else in this forum has mentioned it but the moment someone said they are not voting for him you claimed it was because of race. Typical. slaphead

Lpdon's photo
Sun 06/10/12 02:13 PM

The race card keeps being thrown. Instead of saying the only reason someone won't vote for Obama is race, give reasons why people SHOULD vote for him. Race isn't a reason for me to vote FOR or AGAINST someone. I do know several people that only voted for him the first time because of his race and had no clue what he stood for. To me that is just as bad as not voting for someone because of race.


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Lpdon's photo
Sun 06/10/12 02:14 PM


The race card keeps being thrown. Instead of saying the only reason someone won't vote for Obama is race, give reasons why people SHOULD vote for him. Race isn't a reason for me to vote FOR or AGAINST someone. I do know several people that only voted for him the first time because of his race and had no clue what he stood for. To me that is just as bad as not voting for someone because of race.



I Believe there are people that have political reaons for not voting for him. I believe you to be one of those people. However, it is in the delivery and the logic that I assess when race seems to be the only LOGICAL difference between ones reaction to THIS president compared to how they view similar past presidents in similar situations.


the HATRED of the man on a personal level, well that pretty much leads me to the conclusion that its about race,,,

his errors have not been unique in the past forty years, yet they sure seem to weigh HEAVIER With some than they did regarding other presidents who made similar errors,,,


I don't hate him on a personal level. I have stated several times outside politics I like the guy, I hate what he is doing to the country not him.

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/10/12 11:05 PM



The race card keeps being thrown. Instead of saying the only reason someone won't vote for Obama is race, give reasons why people SHOULD vote for him. Race isn't a reason for me to vote FOR or AGAINST someone. I do know several people that only voted for him the first time because of his race and had no clue what he stood for. To me that is just as bad as not voting for someone because of race.



I Believe there are people that have political reaons for not voting for him. I believe you to be one of those people. However, it is in the delivery and the logic that I assess when race seems to be the only LOGICAL difference between ones reaction to THIS president compared to how they view similar past presidents in similar situations.


the HATRED of the man on a personal level, well that pretty much leads me to the conclusion that its about race,,,

his errors have not been unique in the past forty years, yet they sure seem to weigh HEAVIER With some than they did regarding other presidents who made similar errors,,,


I don't hate him on a personal level. I have stated several times outside politics I like the guy, I hate what he is doing to the country not him.



that makes you a minority of those anti obama posts I am reading,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 06/11/12 12:57 AM




The race card keeps being thrown. Instead of saying the only reason someone won't vote for Obama is race, give reasons why people SHOULD vote for him. Race isn't a reason for me to vote FOR or AGAINST someone. I do know several people that only voted for him the first time because of his race and had no clue what he stood for. To me that is just as bad as not voting for someone because of race.



I Believe there are people that have political reaons for not voting for him. I believe you to be one of those people. However, it is in the delivery and the logic that I assess when race seems to be the only LOGICAL difference between ones reaction to THIS president compared to how they view similar past presidents in similar situations.


the HATRED of the man on a personal level, well that pretty much leads me to the conclusion that its about race,,,

his errors have not been unique in the past forty years, yet they sure seem to weigh HEAVIER With some than they did regarding other presidents who made similar errors,,,


I don't hate him on a personal level. I have stated several times outside politics I like the guy, I hate what he is doing to the country not him.



that makes you a minority of those anti obama posts I am reading,,,
since Racism allegedly runs that deep in the US,and People hate Obama because of his Race,how come he got elected in the first place?what

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/11/12 01:13 AM





The race card keeps being thrown. Instead of saying the only reason someone won't vote for Obama is race, give reasons why people SHOULD vote for him. Race isn't a reason for me to vote FOR or AGAINST someone. I do know several people that only voted for him the first time because of his race and had no clue what he stood for. To me that is just as bad as not voting for someone because of race.



I Believe there are people that have political reaons for not voting for him. I believe you to be one of those people. However, it is in the delivery and the logic that I assess when race seems to be the only LOGICAL difference between ones reaction to THIS president compared to how they view similar past presidents in similar situations.


the HATRED of the man on a personal level, well that pretty much leads me to the conclusion that its about race,,,

his errors have not been unique in the past forty years, yet they sure seem to weigh HEAVIER With some than they did regarding other presidents who made similar errors,,,


I don't hate him on a personal level. I have stated several times outside politics I like the guy, I hate what he is doing to the country not him.



that makes you a minority of those anti obama posts I am reading,,,
since Racism allegedly runs that deep in the US,and People hate Obama because of his Race,how come he got elected in the first place?what



all bigotry isnt the same

I Can tell you from experience, some black folks get seen as the 'exception' until they arent,,,,

and then they get lumped in with the other negros,,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 06/11/12 05:03 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 06/11/12 05:07 AM

The race card is a crutch used by losers to promote themselves and their agenda.

It's like an addict blaming others for their addiction!

When a nation preaches and thrives on fear, the rats come out to play. The biggest rats are usually the ones who have the most to gain by keeping hatred alive and well in America, while most people could care less about the color of a persons skin or their ethnic background!

Fear will always produce false prophets to lead a charge... think of the McCarthy era! Hitlers Germany!

Like carnival barkers, there will always be those trying to get crowds to swallow their bait!

Anyone who actually uses their brain doesn't buy into it! Only those who need someone to blame for their own shortcomings will jump on the clown bus!

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/11/12 09:36 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/11/12 09:38 AM
the race card,,,lol

is that anything like the patriot card, the socialist card, the communist card,,,,,or is one source of 'fear' more valid than another?

racism is a real part of american history, there was no magic moment, year, or decade that eradicated it

not talking about it and becoming defensive about it is just as sad as blaming EVERYTHING upon it

I dont blame everything on racism, but I Sure as hell can aknowledge its there and it impacts MANY Things,,,

there is plenty of research that can be done about the studies that have shown time and time again the tendency for people to
'identify' with a group and to also 'identify' negative things to some groups ,,,those SUB CONSCIOUS tendencies to associate these negative attributes spills over into many of the decisions people make , including political ones,,,,

no photo
Mon 06/11/12 10:50 AM
Did Obama's campaign office look like this?



or this?




I like the flag.

no photo
Mon 06/11/12 02:27 PM

Did Obama's campaign office look like this?



or this?




I like the flag.

Is that Freddy Prinze or Ricky Martin?

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 06/11/12 02:40 PM


Did Obama's campaign office look like this?



or this?




I like the flag.

Is that Freddy Prinze or Ricky Martin?


laugh yer killin me oops!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 06/11/12 02:43 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 06/11/12 02:47 PM

the race card,,,lol

is that anything like the patriot card, the socialist card, the communist card,,,,,or is one source of 'fear' more valid than another?

racism is a real part of american history, there was no magic moment, year, or decade that eradicated it

not talking about it and becoming defensive about it is just as sad as blaming EVERYTHING upon it

I dont blame everything on racism, but I Sure as hell can aknowledge its there and it impacts MANY Things,,,

there is plenty of research that can be done about the studies that have shown time and time again the tendency for people to
'identify' with a group and to also 'identify' negative things to some groups ,,,those SUB CONSCIOUS tendencies to associate these negative attributes spills over into many of the decisions people make , including political ones,,,,


And people to keep it an issue.... when most don't!

The "inferiority" issues of THOSE people is the problem!

Black, white, red, yellow or POTUS!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 06/11/12 02:56 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 06/11/12 02:58 PM
Obozo is a "race baiter" as the Treyvon Martin issue proved!

Why would he involve himself in such an issue if not to invoke hostilities and play his favorite card (and only card it would seem since he has failed and lied about everything else!).

Him and Holder are are the biggest killers of anything decent in America the world has EVER known!

That's not a racist comment.... just FACTS! Based on their actions!

InvictusV's photo
Mon 06/11/12 03:01 PM








i know where i'm at; this is the only state that would vote for newt gingrich. it ain't just politics, white georgians outside of metro atlanta, would keep black people in chains or football fields. georgia state university just announced that more blacks are graduating from there than any other school in the state and one day later, a board meeting was called to up the admission's scores. this is the state that would rather send illegals somewhere else, as long as they don't have to deal with them now that the housing boom is over and they have legal somali's and russians to fill the void.

atlanta has always been known as "the mecca of black america." i'll never understand that crap. sure it has great houses for the money, good colleges, but they don't educate the masses unless they come out of gwinnett county. so, who gives a rat's *** about you saying, "it's political." it's always been about race. the reason you won't vote for obama is (1) he's black, (2) you think he's a muslim, (3) he's black and (4) if you were being led down an alley, you'd rather it be someone that looked like you.

i got news for you, americans would rather have someone in the white house that looks black, than a mormon or a jew. so it's about race!



I hate to break the news, but there are like 13 million blacks in this country and Obama had 69 million votes in 2008..

You see a little discrepancy between the two numbers?

So either every black person voted like 5 times or some other races voted for him..

I reject the race is a factor reasoning because he has a record on the economy and its a failure..

Jimmy Carter was a white from Georgia and he lost his a$$ in 1980 because his economic record was a failure..

You can keep going down the road of race..

But it is just another excuse in a last ditch effort to make this election about anything but his failure on the economy..




with all due respect, I Believe the statement was regarding GEORGIA< not all of AMerica

and Carter ran against another white male,,,,so race is pretty irrelevant for that election,,,


Yeah.. But he doesn't know every white that lives in Georgia.

Carter lost for the reason I stated. So will Obama..

If the economy was humming along Obama would win easily..

You believe Obama would lose if unemployment was down to 5%?





that would be exceptional, anyone would win

significantly though, I think he would WIN under these same circumstances if he were not black

we wouldnt be digging to discredit his citizenship
we wouldnt be digging to discredit his patriotism

we wouldnt have nearly the same ridiculous reaches of logic to distract from what have historically been acceptable and expected issues faced by a president after a severe recession,,,


So you are saying that a segment of the 69 million voters that got him elected in 2008 have now decided not to vote for him simply because he is half black?

The economic failures and the massive expansion of debt have nothing to do with it?

The birther thing started during the democrat primary by Hillary supporters and was certainly a known issue before the election.

The same goes for his affiliations with Ayers and Wright..

All known commodities by election day and he still won..

Your argument would have merit if the economy was moving forward as they have historically after even the most severe recessions.

But to argue its all about his race and not his record is disingenuous and not based in reality.









nope, IM saying that a segment that OVERLOOKED him being blacked because they didnt like PALIN/MCCAIN ticket considered him an 'exception'

and because he hasnt risen HIGHER Than his non black counterparts, he will now go back to being the 'incompetent' negro they may have otherwise considered him to be

the economic 'failures' are only 'failures' because they didnt fit some unrealistic timeline,,,

the birther thing started and quickly ENDED with Hilary, except for that segment that took it and refuse to let it go,,,

every politician that has risen to the level of presidential nomination has worked with or associated with SOMEONE along that path who has had questionable background

'Your argument would have merit if the economy was moving forward as they have historically after even the most severe recessions.'


prove this statement,, show the numbers after 'severe recessions' that were different/better than what we have? make sure to compare other HISTORIC GLOBAL recessions


Ask for and you shall receive..



Between 1980 and 1982 the U.S. economy experienced a deep recession.

In January 1980 the U.S. economy entered a recession that, at the time, was the most significant since the Great Depression. One of the causes of the early 1980s recession was the Iranian Revolution of 1979, which sparked a second large round of oil price increases. More important, however, were Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker’s efforts to tame inflation through restrictive monetary policy, which had the expected effect of dampening economic growth. The American economy experienced a modest recovery beginning in the summer of 1980 but declined again from July 1981 to November 1982.

The robust recovery that followed remains the source of considerable dispute, with some giving credit to the stimulative effects of the Reagan era tax cuts (link to paper on 1981 OBRA and ERTA), others crediting the Reagan era defense buildup ("military Keynesianism"), and others pointing to the Fed’s gradual loosening of monetary policy.

The 1980-82 recession, which the National Bureau of Economic Research considers as two separate recessions (one lasting for the first six months of 1980, the other from July 1981 to November 1982), had modest political consequences for Ronald Reagan and the rest of the Republican Party. Public opinion polls showed widespread disapproval with Reagan’s handling of the economy, and Democrats gained 26 House seats in the 1982 midterm elections. Yet Reagan’s approval ratings recovered along with the economy in late 1982, and he easily won reelection in 1984.

http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/ROHO/projects/debt/1980srecession.html


This little narrative is exactly what I said about Obama. Poor economic performance leads to disapproval. Reagan would have lost in 1984 had the economy not turned around. Was he black?


well..

I suppose I won the day with this since I received no reply after being challenged..


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Mon 06/11/12 04:09 PM









i know where i'm at; this is the only state that would vote for newt gingrich. it ain't just politics, white georgians outside of metro atlanta, would keep black people in chains or football fields. georgia state university just announced that more blacks are graduating from there than any other school in the state and one day later, a board meeting was called to up the admission's scores. this is the state that would rather send illegals somewhere else, as long as they don't have to deal with them now that the housing boom is over and they have legal somali's and russians to fill the void.

atlanta has always been known as "the mecca of black america." i'll never understand that crap. sure it has great houses for the money, good colleges, but they don't educate the masses unless they come out of gwinnett county. so, who gives a rat's *** about you saying, "it's political." it's always been about race. the reason you won't vote for obama is (1) he's black, (2) you think he's a muslim, (3) he's black and (4) if you were being led down an alley, you'd rather it be someone that looked like you.

i got news for you, americans would rather have someone in the white house that looks black, than a mormon or a jew. so it's about race!



I hate to break the news, but there are like 13 million blacks in this country and Obama had 69 million votes in 2008..

You see a little discrepancy between the two numbers?

So either every black person voted like 5 times or some other races voted for him..

I reject the race is a factor reasoning because he has a record on the economy and its a failure..

Jimmy Carter was a white from Georgia and he lost his a$$ in 1980 because his economic record was a failure..

You can keep going down the road of race..

But it is just another excuse in a last ditch effort to make this election about anything but his failure on the economy..




with all due respect, I Believe the statement was regarding GEORGIA< not all of AMerica

and Carter ran against another white male,,,,so race is pretty irrelevant for that election,,,


Yeah.. But he doesn't know every white that lives in Georgia.

Carter lost for the reason I stated. So will Obama..

If the economy was humming along Obama would win easily..

You believe Obama would lose if unemployment was down to 5%?





that would be exceptional, anyone would win

significantly though, I think he would WIN under these same circumstances if he were not black

we wouldnt be digging to discredit his citizenship
we wouldnt be digging to discredit his patriotism

we wouldnt have nearly the same ridiculous reaches of logic to distract from what have historically been acceptable and expected issues faced by a president after a severe recession,,,


So you are saying that a segment of the 69 million voters that got him elected in 2008 have now decided not to vote for him simply because he is half black?

The economic failures and the massive expansion of debt have nothing to do with it?

The birther thing started during the democrat primary by Hillary supporters and was certainly a known issue before the election.

The same goes for his affiliations with Ayers and Wright..

All known commodities by election day and he still won..

Your argument would have merit if the economy was moving forward as they have historically after even the most severe recessions.

But to argue its all about his race and not his record is disingenuous and not based in reality.









nope, IM saying that a segment that OVERLOOKED him being blacked because they didnt like PALIN/MCCAIN ticket considered him an 'exception'

and because he hasnt risen HIGHER Than his non black counterparts, he will now go back to being the 'incompetent' negro they may have otherwise considered him to be

the economic 'failures' are only 'failures' because they didnt fit some unrealistic timeline,,,

the birther thing started and quickly ENDED with Hilary, except for that segment that took it and refuse to let it go,,,

every politician that has risen to the level of presidential nomination has worked with or associated with SOMEONE along that path who has had questionable background

'Your argument would have merit if the economy was moving forward as they have historically after even the most severe recessions.'


prove this statement,, show the numbers after 'severe recessions' that were different/better than what we have? make sure to compare other HISTORIC GLOBAL recessions


Ask for and you shall receive..



Between 1980 and 1982 the U.S. economy experienced a deep recession.

In January 1980 the U.S. economy entered a recession that, at the time, was the most significant since the Great Depression. One of the causes of the early 1980s recession was the Iranian Revolution of 1979, which sparked a second large round of oil price increases. More important, however, were Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker’s efforts to tame inflation through restrictive monetary policy, which had the expected effect of dampening economic growth. The American economy experienced a modest recovery beginning in the summer of 1980 but declined again from July 1981 to November 1982.

The robust recovery that followed remains the source of considerable dispute, with some giving credit to the stimulative effects of the Reagan era tax cuts (link to paper on 1981 OBRA and ERTA), others crediting the Reagan era defense buildup ("military Keynesianism"), and others pointing to the Fed’s gradual loosening of monetary policy.

The 1980-82 recession, which the National Bureau of Economic Research considers as two separate recessions (one lasting for the first six months of 1980, the other from July 1981 to November 1982), had modest political consequences for Ronald Reagan and the rest of the Republican Party. Public opinion polls showed widespread disapproval with Reagan’s handling of the economy, and Democrats gained 26 House seats in the 1982 midterm elections. Yet Reagan’s approval ratings recovered along with the economy in late 1982, and he easily won reelection in 1984.

http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/ROHO/projects/debt/1980srecession.html


This little narrative is exactly what I said about Obama. Poor economic performance leads to disapproval. Reagan would have lost in 1984 had the economy not turned around. Was he black?


well..

I suppose I won the day with this since I received no reply after being challenged..




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Mon 06/11/12 04:42 PM

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Wed 06/13/12 10:31 AM
I didn't vote for Barack Hussein Obama because I didn't like his thought process. I won't vote for him now because I don't like his policies. Is he black? Big deal! He and the dimocrats are the ones who keep displaying racism.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 06/13/12 01:52 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 06/13/12 01:56 PM

I didn't vote for Barack Hussein Obama because I didn't like his thought process. I won't vote for him now because I don't like his policies. Is he black? Big deal! He and the dimocrats are the ones who keep displaying racism.


Without playing the race card they couldn't steal our money thru taxes, to borrow more money from the FED, to cover their entitlement programs, which get them their crony capitalist "campaign" contributions. (and insider trading tips, free vacations, bonuses, the ability to hobnob with the stars, etc, etc, etc!)

Politics really has very little to do with it! That's why NOTHING ever gets done....well, except for vacations and golf between campaign speeches and fundraisers.

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