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Topic: The way of life
Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 05/30/12 11:32 AM Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 05/30/12 11:35 AM
Here is my concept of God: That which exists. Yea there is already a word for that, its called existence. I exist. I am that.

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Wed 05/30/12 11:35 AM
Our true nature is divine. The divine Self is the underlying reality and source of all that exists. "devinity" "self"? you can only "share" in devinity, you can not claim it as being meant for just self. What part of all that is would even claim or think itself to be devine except man? that which id devine gives no thought to being such, that is ego, not devinity.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 05/30/12 11:39 AM Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 05/30/12 11:40 AM
Our true nature is divine. The divine Self is the underlying reality and source of all that exists. "devinity" "self"? you can only "share" in devinity, you can not claim it as being meant for just self. What part of all that is would even claim or think itself to be devine except man? that which id devine gives no thought to being such, that is ego, not devinity. Then you don't understand what the divine self is. You are caught up in the little self, the ego. The divine self is that which exists. It is all that is. It is the essence of all that exists. I am that. You are that. This is that. Everything is that. And that is all there is.

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Wed 05/30/12 11:41 AM
Here is my concept of God: That which exists. Yea there is already a word for that, its called existence. I exist. I am that. Everything that exist, exist, that is really saying nothing.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 05/30/12 11:46 AM
Everything that exist, exist, that is really saying nothing. Only if you don't understand it. If you do understand it, then it says everything.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 05/30/12 11:47 AM
I exist. That is the greatest miracle I can imagine.

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Wed 05/30/12 11:49 AM
Our true nature is divine. The divine Self is the underlying reality and source of all that exists. "devinity" "self"? you can only "share" in devinity, you can not claim it as being meant for just self. What part of all that is would even claim or think itself to be devine except man? that which id devine gives no thought to being such, that is ego, not devinity. Then you don't understand what the divine self is. You are caught up in the little self, the ego. The divine self is that which exists. It is all that is. It is the essence of all that exists. I am that. You are that. This is that. Everything is that. And that is all there is. the "devine self" is contradictory, you can not say that devinity is the esesnece of existance and connect it with "self" it can not be or include everything and self at the same time and because of this, no one can ever say "they" are devine. At most you only share in divinity, which i don't beleive is the correct understanding of what is. Leave the self out of your equation and your thinking is correct as to "all". Apply it to yourself and you become something more than everything else, which your not. :)

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 05/30/12 11:53 AM
You don't understand what the "divine self" is. You are stuck on your wrong idea of "self," and until you get unstuck, you will forever find that contradiction. To you, "self" is a dirty word. To you, it is "ego." Until that changes, you will not understand who you are.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 05/30/12 11:57 AM
Everything goes back to the same source. Everything. There is only one source. Only one self.

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Wed 05/30/12 12:18 PM
Everything goes back to the same source. Everything. There is only one source. Only one self. I don't believe in divinity JB, "source" doesn't think, nor does it care what anything that has come about, including us, thinks. Devinity, self, ego, mean nothing to it one way or the other, if you can even call source "it", if so only in the most broad terms would it stand as something more than just matter/energy/waves/particles.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 05/30/12 12:24 PM
Everything goes back to the same source. Everything. There is only one source. Only one self. I don't believe in divinity JB, "source" doesn't think, nor does it care what anything that has come about, including us, thinks. Devinity, self, ego, mean nothing to it one way or the other, if you can even call source "it", if so only in the most broad terms would it stand as something more than just matter/energy/waves/particles. If you don't believe in "divinity," then how are you even able to discuss it and why would you bother? As for the "source" not being able to "think" or "care" that is not true. I am proof of that. (I can think and I care, and what the source is, I also am.) I am that. I exist. I am.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 05/30/12 12:31 PM
Because I am connected to source, and because I exist, that is my proof of "god."

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Wed 05/30/12 12:36 PM
Everything goes back to the same source. Everything. There is only one source. Only one self. I don't believe in divinity JB, "source" doesn't think, nor does it care what anything that has come about, including us, thinks. Devinity, self, ego, mean nothing to it one way or the other, if you can even call source "it", if so only in the most broad terms would it stand as something more than just matter/energy/waves/particles. If you don't believe in "divinity," then how are you even able to discuss it and why would you bother? As for the "source" not being able to "think" or "care" that is not true. I am proof of that. (I can think and I care, and what the source is, I also am.) I am that. I exist. I am. I can discuss it from the viewpoint of it's normal meaning, which is all anyone can do, if your meaning is different than the normal, then we can't discuss it, very true. "i' "i" 'I', everything you state is self centered, you cop an attitude or guise that you beleive something is infinite and pertains to all, but then complicate it with personal statements? everyone can think or care or anything else, many things can not, still all are part of the whole. If you really beleive your part of the whole, then stop using personal pronouns.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 05/30/12 12:57 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 05/30/12 01:00 PM
Everything goes back to the same source. Everything. There is only one source. Only one self. I don't believe in divinity JB, "source" doesn't think, nor does it care what anything that has come about, including us, thinks. Devinity, self, ego, mean nothing to it one way or the other, if you can even call source "it", if so only in the most broad terms would it stand as something more than just matter/energy/waves/particles. If you don't believe in "divinity," then how are you even able to discuss it and why would you bother? As for the "source" not being able to "think" or "care" that is not true. I am proof of that. (I can think and I care, and what the source is, I also am.) I am that. I exist. I am. I can discuss it from the viewpoint of it's normal meaning, which is all anyone can do, if your meaning is different than the normal, then we can't discuss it, very true. "i' "i" 'I', everything you state is self centered, you cop an attitude or guise that you beleive something is infinite and pertains to all, but then complicate it with personal statements? everyone can think or care or anything else, many things can not, still all are part of the whole. If you really beleive your part of the whole, then stop using personal pronouns. There is only one "I". You interpret my using "I" as coming from what you identify as "me" (my body, my mind, etc.) You do not hear it as coming from source. Since, for the purpose of this deep and divine conversation, I do not separate myself from source, (--->the divine essence of all life and consciousness) in these discussions. I am. <------ that is source talking (through me.)---> and yet it is also me. I exist. <----- that is source talking (through me.) ----> and yet it is also me. Source (God) can only speak and have its being (existence) through that which exists. The mustard tree could never find its source, the mustard seed. Yet by the very fact that it exists, one has to know that it's source, the seed, existed. So does God exist? Only like the mustard tree exists. God exists not as the seed, but as the tree.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 05/30/12 01:02 PM
This bares repeating. God exists not as the seed, but as the tree.

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Wed 05/30/12 01:14 PM Edited by tribo on Wed 05/30/12 02:11 PM
LOL - that which is, would exist if no one could think or talk or express. It does not need a mouthpiece, nor recognition. It exist merely because it does. If only particles and waves existed, which i think is the case, and had not formed anything else, it would still exist,Its not incumbent on the needs of anything. your understanding of who you are, is simply your understanding. It, has no reson to even know of divinity or other god like qualities, it's not a god.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 05/30/12 01:21 PM
LOL - that which is, would exist if no one could think or talk or express. It does not need a mouthpiece, nor recognition. It exist merely because it does. If only paricles and waves existed and had not formed anything else, it would still exist,Its not incumbent on the needs of anything. your understanding of who you are, is simply your understanding. It, has no reson to even know of divinity or other god like qualities, it's not a god. God is just a word, as your words are just words. even a stone expresses itself. You over think everything too much. And its is really very simple.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 05/30/12 01:22 PM
Just be in silence. You are lost in words.

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Wed 05/30/12 01:54 PM
LOL - that which is, would exist if no one could think or talk or express. It does not need a mouthpiece, nor recognition. It exist merely because it does. If only particles and waves existed and had not formed anything else, it would still exist,Its not incumbent on the needs of anything. your understanding of who you are, is simply your understanding. It, has no reason to even know of divinity or other god like qualities, it's not a god. God is just a word, as your words are just words. even a stone expresses itself. You over think everything too much. And its is really very simple. I believe in it's simplicity, that is what i wrote of, lol. I wish we were all stones, the world would be a better place.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Wed 05/30/12 01:56 PM
You don't understand what the "divine self" is. You are stuck on your wrong idea of "self," and until you get unstuck, you will forever find that contradiction. To you, "self" is a dirty word. To you, it is "ego." Until that changes, you will not understand who you are. Ego is Latin for Self! Same thing!