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Topic: I am thouroughly convinced that....
msharmony's photo
Mon 05/28/12 02:21 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 05/28/12 02:22 PM




When the constitution is interpreted to infringe on the rights and freedoms of the people, and those interpritations are meant to remove the power of the people over its gov't that is sworn to protect, and defend those rights AS STATED, there is ONLY one interpritation that is correct!

THAT is NOT suggestive when applied with the bill of rights and the federalist papers!



infringe upon what 'rights'

rights themself seem to be interpreted subjectively,


any amendment could be said to have infringed upon someones 'right' to do something,,,,its a term used too broadly to encompass whatever people want to do outside of murder and theft,,,



THE CONSTITUTION WAS WRITTEN TO ENPOWER THE PEOPLE, NOT ENSLAVE THEM!

Rights are endowed by the creator (whatever your belief), freedom is what the constitution entitles! Anything that acts against that freedom is not a subjective act, but treason!



give me a break!

the constitution was not written by flawless men nor is it some flawless all encompassing prophetic outline to 'freedom' and 'liberty'


ARticle one , section 9 of the ORIGINAL CONSTITUTION

The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.



,,,,so that document wasnt actually concerned with everyones 'freedom' apparently,,,


and we know how upset some slaveholders were when their 'right' to own human beings was threatened,,,...

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 05/28/12 02:24 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 05/28/12 02:26 PM





When the constitution is interpreted to infringe on the rights and freedoms of the people, and those interpritations are meant to remove the power of the people over its gov't that is sworn to protect, and defend those rights AS STATED, there is ONLY one interpritation that is correct!

THAT is NOT suggestive when applied with the bill of rights and the federalist papers!



infringe upon what 'rights'

rights themself seem to be interpreted subjectively,


any amendment could be said to have infringed upon someones 'right' to do something,,,,its a term used too broadly to encompass whatever people want to do outside of murder and theft,,,



THE CONSTITUTION WAS WRITTEN TO ENPOWER THE PEOPLE, NOT ENSLAVE THEM!

Rights are endowed by the creator (whatever your belief), freedom is what the constitution entitles! Anything that acts against that freedom is not a subjective act, but treason!



give me a break!

the constitution was not written by flawless men nor is it some flawless all encompassing prophetic outline to 'freedom' and 'liberty'


ARticle one , section 9 of the ORIGINAL CONSTITUTION

The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.



,,,,so that document wasnt actually concerned with everyones 'freedom' apparently,,,


and we know how upset some slaveholders were when their 'right' to own human beings was threatened,,,...


That was a voted, approved and ratified tarriff on imports and business! NOT a personal tax, but a cost of doing BUSINESS as is still in force today!

There was no personal income tax till 1913

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/28/12 02:27 PM






When the constitution is interpreted to infringe on the rights and freedoms of the people, and those interpritations are meant to remove the power of the people over its gov't that is sworn to protect, and defend those rights AS STATED, there is ONLY one interpritation that is correct!

THAT is NOT suggestive when applied with the bill of rights and the federalist papers!



infringe upon what 'rights'

rights themself seem to be interpreted subjectively,


any amendment could be said to have infringed upon someones 'right' to do something,,,,its a term used too broadly to encompass whatever people want to do outside of murder and theft,,,



THE CONSTITUTION WAS WRITTEN TO ENPOWER THE PEOPLE, NOT ENSLAVE THEM!

Rights are endowed by the creator (whatever your belief), freedom is what the constitution entitles! Anything that acts against that freedom is not a subjective act, but treason!



give me a break!

the constitution was not written by flawless men nor is it some flawless all encompassing prophetic outline to 'freedom' and 'liberty'


ARticle one , section 9 of the ORIGINAL CONSTITUTION

The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.



,,,,so that document wasnt actually concerned with everyones 'freedom' apparently,,,


and we know how upset some slaveholders were when their 'right' to own human beings was threatened,,,...


That was a voted, approved and ratified tarriff on imports and business! NOT a personal tax, but a cost of doing BUSINESS as is still in force today!

There was no personal income tax till 1913


yes, the BUSINESS of owning humans,,,laugh laugh

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 05/28/12 02:28 PM

District, local and state taxes have always been agreed and are a ratified tax to all individuals with the confines. But there was no federal "personal" income tax until the fereral reserve act of 1913

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/28/12 02:30 PM


District, local and state taxes have always been agreed and are a ratified tax to all individuals with the confines. But there was no federal "personal" income tax until the fereral reserve act of 1913



Im not talking about income taxes

Im talking about the false claim that the constitution was written to ensure 'freedom'

it wasnt until the 13th amendment that it even ADDRESSED The issue

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Mon 05/28/12 02:31 PM




Obama, like most presidents before him is a farce. He is controlled by others. All of his speeches are written by others which is blatantly obvious to anyone if you remove his teleprompter; his decisions made by others as well. He is not his own man like some think. He is intelligent and well spoken which makes him the perfect puppet!



this is contradictory

his speeches are written by others which is blatantly obvious if you remove his teleprompter,,,

YET


he is intelligent and well spoken,,,,

which is it?


Ms, don't get your panties in a bunch. The teleprompter is spoon feeding you a speech (like most other presidents have used). He is intelligent and well spoken, you can't be both intelligent and spoon fed? And where did I contradict myself? You are just defensively nit picking, trying to tear apart ANYTHING ANYONE says about Obama that doesn't paint a sun-shiny picture.

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Mon 05/28/12 02:32 PM





Obama, like most presidents before him is a farce. He is controlled by others. All of his speeches are written by others which is blatantly obvious to anyone if you remove his teleprompter; his decisions made by others as well. He is not his own man like some think. He is intelligent and well spoken which makes him the perfect puppet!



this is contradictory

his speeches are written by others which is blatantly obvious if you remove his teleprompter,,,

YET


he is intelligent and well spoken,,,,

which is it?


Ms, don't get your panties in a bunch. The teleprompter is spoon feeding you a speech (like most other presidents have used). He is intelligent and well spoken, you can't be both intelligent and spoon fed? And where did I contradict myself? You are just defensively nit picking, trying to tear apart ANYTHING ANYONE says about Obama that doesn't paint a sun-shiny picture.


so what did this

' All of his speeches are written by others which is blatantly obvious to anyone if you remove his teleprompter'


refer to?

what makes it 'blatantly obvious'?

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Mon 05/28/12 02:37 PM

http://shadow.wordpress.com/2006/10/26/338/

Woodrow Wilson after creating the Federal Reserve said
October 26, 2006 by Dewayne Mikkelson

I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.
~ Woodrow Wilson

Since then, we have been bent over without vaseline by the bankers and those they make us believe we have a choice of electing.

Now as people have grown smarter (even under the influence of legal drugs, TV, reality shows.... your child is smarter than you were at their age...and so on) they now must change our founding documents, removing our power over them.

But they are few, and we are MILLIONS....if we wake up!

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Mon 05/28/12 02:40 PM






Obama, like most presidents before him is a farce. He is controlled by others. All of his speeches are written by others which is blatantly obvious to anyone if you remove his teleprompter; his decisions made by others as well. He is not his own man like some think. He is intelligent and well spoken which makes him the perfect puppet!



this is contradictory

his speeches are written by others which is blatantly obvious if you remove his teleprompter,,,

YET


he is intelligent and well spoken,,,,

which is it?


Ms, don't get your panties in a bunch. The teleprompter is spoon feeding you a speech (like most other presidents have used). He is intelligent and well spoken, you can't be both intelligent and spoon fed? And where did I contradict myself? You are just defensively nit picking, trying to tear apart ANYTHING ANYONE says about Obama that doesn't paint a sun-shiny picture.


so what did this

' All of his speeches are written by others which is blatantly obvious to anyone if you remove his teleprompter'


refer to?

what makes it 'blatantly obvious'?


http://usactionnews.com/2012/04/53-seconds-that-should-end-a-presidency/

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Mon 05/28/12 02:42 PM







Obama, like most presidents before him is a farce. He is controlled by others. All of his speeches are written by others which is blatantly obvious to anyone if you remove his teleprompter; his decisions made by others as well. He is not his own man like some think. He is intelligent and well spoken which makes him the perfect puppet!



this is contradictory

his speeches are written by others which is blatantly obvious if you remove his teleprompter,,,

YET


he is intelligent and well spoken,,,,

which is it?


Ms, don't get your panties in a bunch. The teleprompter is spoon feeding you a speech (like most other presidents have used). He is intelligent and well spoken, you can't be both intelligent and spoon fed? And where did I contradict myself? You are just defensively nit picking, trying to tear apart ANYTHING ANYONE says about Obama that doesn't paint a sun-shiny picture.


so what did this

' All of his speeches are written by others which is blatantly obvious to anyone if you remove his teleprompter'


refer to?

what makes it 'blatantly obvious'?


http://usactionnews.com/2012/04/53-seconds-that-should-end-a-presidency/



meaningless,,, give me years of video and I can edit together under a minute of pauses or fillers that would create the same effect,,,,

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Mon 05/28/12 02:46 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 05/28/12 02:48 PM

If it was just the speeches he messed up it would be laughable....but he is destroying AMERICA!

Call me crazy....along with 60% of the rest of the poulation by the last poll!

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/28/12 02:53 PM


If it was just the speeches he messed up it would be laughable....but he is destroying AMERICA!

Call me crazy....along with 60% of the rest of the poulation by the last poll!



the latest poll? wow. how do you chose?

is it gallup (which has him at 48% approval)?

or rasmussen (which has him at 19% approval)?

which poll engine do you use? and what is their base?

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Mon 05/28/12 03:46 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 05/28/12 03:50 PM



If it was just the speeches he messed up it would be laughable....but he is destroying AMERICA!

Call me crazy....along with 60% of the rest of the poulation by the last poll!



the latest poll? wow. how do you chose?

is it gallup (which has him at 48% approval)?

or rasmussen (which has him at 19% approval)?

which poll engine do you use? and what is their base?


Lost the page and need to refind it!


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Mon 05/28/12 03:47 PM
you realize it is nearly june of 2012?

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 05/28/12 04:16 PM

you realize it is nearly june of 2012?


I unloaded the web page and can't retrieve it, but I think it was "Gallop" maybe.... even so, trying to refind it, most show his approval rating at around 45-47%..... not all that great!

Peccy's photo
Mon 05/28/12 07:29 PM
Edited by Peccy on Mon 05/28/12 07:35 PM

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Mon 05/28/12 07:32 PM



Obama, like most presidents before him is a farce. He is controlled by others. All of his speeches are written by others which is blatantly obvious to anyone if you remove his teleprompter; his decisions made by others as well. He is not his own man like some think. He is intelligent and well spoken which makes him the perfect puppet!


You're just now realizing this?

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Mon 05/28/12 07:34 PM
Just forget I posted anything MS. It's OBVIOUS that you are simply enamored with this guy, because no matter what anyone says, you will defend him no matter what. Just the kind of unquestioning follower that he is looking for. How is the weather in Washington anyhow?

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