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Topic: Politicians not caught in 'falsehoods',,,,none
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Mon 05/28/12 10:42 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 05/28/12 10:42 AM
so which 'honest' politician are we supporting this year


Im voting based upon what I perceive to be character and leadership and integrity and knowledge of global politics and work record,,,


the ' 100% honest' standard would work about as well as trying to find an 'honest' human being who never gets anything wrong (intentionally or unintentionally)

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Mon 05/28/12 10:44 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 05/28/12 10:47 AM

so which 'honest' politician are we supporting this year


Im voting based upon what I perceive to be character and leadership and integrity and knowledge of global politics and work record,,,


the ' 100% honest' standard would work about as well as trying to find an 'honest' human being who never gets anything wrong (intentionally or unintentionally)


You're voting for Ron Paul then msH? laugh

Only candidate that I know of who fits that bill, with over 30 years of proof to back it up!

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/28/12 10:45 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 05/28/12 10:45 AM


so which 'honest' politician are we supporting this year


Im voting based upon what I perceive to be character and leadership and integrity and knowledge of global politics and work record,,,


the ' 100% honest' standard would work about as well as trying to find an 'honest' human being who never gets anything wrong (intentionally or unintentionally)


You're voting for Ron Paul then msH? laugh



:) not at all, Ive explained his 'strict constitutionalist' views scare me,,,,

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Mon 05/28/12 10:46 AM



Hey, like Barack Hussein Obama fans I'm voting based on skin colorlaugh

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/28/12 10:48 AM




Hey, like Barack Hussein Obama fans I'm voting based on skin colorlaugh



NEWSFLASH"

I would vote OBAMA regardless of what his skin color was.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 05/28/12 10:48 AM



so which 'honest' politician are we supporting this year


Im voting based upon what I perceive to be character and leadership and integrity and knowledge of global politics and work record,,,


the ' 100% honest' standard would work about as well as trying to find an 'honest' human being who never gets anything wrong (intentionally or unintentionally)


You're voting for Ron Paul then msH? laugh



:) not at all, Ive explained his 'strict constitutionalist' views scare me,,,,


Yeah, who cares what the constitution says....NOT DC...or Obozo...why he keeps changing it!

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/28/12 10:49 AM




so which 'honest' politician are we supporting this year


Im voting based upon what I perceive to be character and leadership and integrity and knowledge of global politics and work record,,,


the ' 100% honest' standard would work about as well as trying to find an 'honest' human being who never gets anything wrong (intentionally or unintentionally)


You're voting for Ron Paul then msH? laugh



:) not at all, Ive explained his 'strict constitutionalist' views scare me,,,,


Yeah, who cares what the constitution says....NOT DC...or Obozo...why he keeps changing it!



the constitution , from its inception , has been being AMENDED/CHANGED for a while

its made to be able to be BUILT UPON ( as in a foundation,,,), not to remain stagnant while the country around it grows....



boredinaz06's photo
Mon 05/28/12 10:50 AM





Hey, like Barack Hussein Obama fans I'm voting based on skin colorlaugh



NEWSFLASH"

I would vote OBAMA regardless of what his skin color was.


Of course you would:smile: flowerforyou

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/28/12 10:51 AM






Hey, like Barack Hussein Obama fans I'm voting based on skin colorlaugh



NEWSFLASH"

I would vote OBAMA regardless of what his skin color was.


Of course you would:smile: flowerforyou



yep, most of the same base that voted OBama voted Clinton, and for the same(non racial) reasons,,,,,,intelligence, class, character, ethical record, work record, knowledge of global politics,,,,

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Mon 05/28/12 10:52 AM





Hey, like Barack Hussein Obama fans I'm voting based on skin colorlaugh



NEWSFLASH"

I would vote OBAMA regardless of what his skin color was.
Then you will have only yourself to blame when this country goes to hell.

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/28/12 10:54 AM






Hey, like Barack Hussein Obama fans I'm voting based on skin colorlaugh



NEWSFLASH"

I would vote OBAMA regardless of what his skin color was.
Then you will have only yourself to blame when this country goes to hell.



looking at the history of how slavery took two hundred years to turn around, Im not seeing the doom and gloom of things not being perfect after four years

nor am I seeing any one particular term as 'responsible' for the country going to hell

I personally think it began a long time ago, where morals are concerned,,,but that politics is going on as it is meant to,,,,

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Mon 05/28/12 10:57 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 05/28/12 10:59 AM
Yep, he just pledged us to defending the heroin poppy fields for 10 more years to enslave the youth with cheap heroin.....WHAT A GUY!

Here I thought our being in Afghanastan was all in the name of national defense, that he knew Bin Laden was dead, Al Queda was just a memory and the Talaban just wanted us out of their country.

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Mon 05/28/12 11:00 AM


Yep, he just pledged us to defending the heroin poppy fields for 10 more years to enslave the youth with cheap heroin.....WHAT A GUY!

Here I thought it was all in the name of national defense, that he knew Bin Laden was dead, Al Queda was just a memory and the Talaban just wanted us out of their country.



Im sure thats what ya thought...laugh


drugs are too big a problem in the US for us to be so judgmental about the MAIN Source of revenue for some other culture,,,

we cant force them to get rid of their culture, but we can help them protect themself against those who would steal their revenue source


I think abortion kills babies, but I Would not have a fit if we put protection at abortion clinics to keep those performing them safe,,,,,

boredinaz06's photo
Mon 05/28/12 11:00 AM







Hey, like Barack Hussein Obama fans I'm voting based on skin colorlaugh



NEWSFLASH"

I would vote OBAMA regardless of what his skin color was.
Then you will have only yourself to blame when this country goes to hell.



looking at the history of how slavery took two hundred years to turn around, Im not seeing the doom and gloom of things not being perfect after four years

nor am I seeing any one particular term as 'responsible' for the country going to hell

I personally think it began a long time ago, where morals are concerned,,,but that politics is going on as it is meant to,,,,


Apparently you don't see it getting worse either.

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/28/12 11:02 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 05/28/12 11:04 AM








Hey, like Barack Hussein Obama fans I'm voting based on skin colorlaugh



NEWSFLASH"

I would vote OBAMA regardless of what his skin color was.
Then you will have only yourself to blame when this country goes to hell.



looking at the history of how slavery took two hundred years to turn around, Im not seeing the doom and gloom of things not being perfect after four years

nor am I seeing any one particular term as 'responsible' for the country going to hell

I personally think it began a long time ago, where morals are concerned,,,but that politics is going on as it is meant to,,,,


Apparently you don't see it getting worse either.



morally, yes

politically, no

unless we vote in those who leave it strictly up to the states, than I see us getting much weaker as a country, more easily divided and conquered from other more united countries,,,

then I see it getting worse for the religious, for women, for other minorities, etc,,,,,,

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Mon 05/28/12 11:03 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 05/28/12 11:07 AM



Yep, he just pledged us to defending the heroin poppy fields for 10 more years to enslave the youth with cheap heroin.....WHAT A GUY!

Here I thought it was all in the name of national defense, that he knew Bin Laden was dead, Al Queda was just a memory and the Talaban just wanted us out of their country.



Im sure thats what ya thought...laugh


drugs are too big a problem in the US for us to be so judgmental about the MAIN Source of revenue for some other culture,,,

we cant force them to get rid of their culture, but we can help them protect themself against those who would steal their revenue source


I think abortion kills babies, but I Would not have a fit if we put protection at abortion clinics to keep those performing them safe,,,,,


The FACT of the matter is, that under Talaban rule, you were executed for growing poppy fields....until the US arrived on the scene!

Check your facts!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Production_in_Afghanistan

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/28/12 11:09 AM




Yep, he just pledged us to defending the heroin poppy fields for 10 more years to enslave the youth with cheap heroin.....WHAT A GUY!

Here I thought it was all in the name of national defense, that he knew Bin Laden was dead, Al Queda was just a memory and the Talaban just wanted us out of their country.



Im sure thats what ya thought...laugh


drugs are too big a problem in the US for us to be so judgmental about the MAIN Source of revenue for some other culture,,,

we cant force them to get rid of their culture, but we can help them protect themself against those who would steal their revenue source


I think abortion kills babies, but I Would not have a fit if we put protection at abortion clinics to keep those performing them safe,,,,,


The FACT of the matter is, that under Talaban rule, you were executed for growing poppy fields....until the US arrived on the scene!

Check your facts!



since when were we allies with 'taliban'?

thats the point

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 05/28/12 11:11 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 05/28/12 11:15 AM





Yep, he just pledged us to defending the heroin poppy fields for 10 more years to enslave the youth with cheap heroin.....WHAT A GUY!

Here I thought it was all in the name of national defense, that he knew Bin Laden was dead, Al Queda was just a memory and the Talaban just wanted us out of their country.



Im sure thats what ya thought...laugh


drugs are too big a problem in the US for us to be so judgmental about the MAIN Source of revenue for some other culture,,,

we cant force them to get rid of their culture, but we can help them protect themself against those who would steal their revenue source


I think abortion kills babies, but I Would not have a fit if we put protection at abortion clinics to keep those performing them safe,,,,,


The FACT of the matter is, that under Talaban rule, you were executed for growing poppy fields....until the US arrived on the scene!

Check your facts!



since when were we allies with 'taliban'?

thats the point


When we supplied them with men and munitions to rid them of the Russians invading their country for the same reason!

We created the Taliban AND Bin Laden! Provided them the weapons they now use against us, their present invaders!

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/28/12 11:13 AM






Yep, he just pledged us to defending the heroin poppy fields for 10 more years to enslave the youth with cheap heroin.....WHAT A GUY!

Here I thought it was all in the name of national defense, that he knew Bin Laden was dead, Al Queda was just a memory and the Talaban just wanted us out of their country.



Im sure thats what ya thought...laugh


drugs are too big a problem in the US for us to be so judgmental about the MAIN Source of revenue for some other culture,,,

we cant force them to get rid of their culture, but we can help them protect themself against those who would steal their revenue source


I think abortion kills babies, but I Would not have a fit if we put protection at abortion clinics to keep those performing them safe,,,,,


The FACT of the matter is, that under Talaban rule, you were executed for growing poppy fields....until the US arrived on the scene!

Check your facts!



since when were we allies with 'taliban'?

thats the point


When we supplied them with men and munitions to rid them of the Russians invading their country for the same reason!

We created the Taliban AND Bin Laden!




possibly, but what has that to do with aiding afghanis in protecting what is THEIR natural resource,, from being overrun by others or killed for that resource?

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Mon 05/28/12 11:17 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 05/28/12 11:23 AM
You are blinded and cannot see..... THERE WAS NO OPIUM "LEGAL" UNDER THE TALIBAN RULE.... so what is "natural" about it as their national resource?

Rise of the Taliban (1994–2001)

During the Taliban rule, Afghanistan saw a bumper opium crop of 4,500 metric tons in 1999,.[15] However, in July 2000, Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, collaborating with the United Nations to eradicate heroin production in Afghanistan, declared that growing poppies was un-Islamic, resulting in one of the world's most successful anti-drug campaigns. As a result of this ban, opium poppy cultivation was reduced by 91% from the previous year's estimate of 82,172 hectares. The ban was so effective that Helmand Province, which had accounted for more than half of this area, recorded no poppy cultivation during the 2001 season.[16][17] The Bush administration paid a 43 million dollar 'eradication' reward payment to the Taliban in 2001. [13]

However, some people believe that certain parties benefited from the price increase during the ban. Some even believe it was a form of Market manipulation on the part of certain drug lords. Dried Opium, unlike most agricultural products, can easily be stored for long periods without refrigeration or other expensive equipment. With huge stashes of opium stored in secret hideaways, certain groups involved in the drug trade were in theory able to make huge personal profits during the price spikes after the 2000 ban and the chaos following 9/11

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