Topic: How Bush Planned 9-11
Chazster's photo
Fri 05/11/12 01:24 PM

History is extremely important. If you don't know true history and you claim to be "educated" you are deluding yourself. Even if you knew a little bit of history you would better understand the state of the world today.

Not understanding the state of the world today, and what is happening will be the downfall of America. Each generation is less knowledgeable than the last one of what is actually going on.

We are doomed to slip deeper and deeper into a police state losing inch by inch our freedom and our rights. It is happening so gradually, people don't notice it.

But I noticed when our government started using Hitler's term "homeland." "Protect the homeland!" Hitler would say. Then our government adopted that term. It was chilling.





I took history and aced history. What you mean is you don't considered people educated unless they know whatever stuff you want them to know. What might that be? Be specific. History is a broad term.

no photo
Fri 05/11/12 01:28 PM


History is extremely important. If you don't know true history and you claim to be "educated" you are deluding yourself. Even if you knew a little bit of history you would better understand the state of the world today.

Not understanding the state of the world today, and what is happening will be the downfall of America. Each generation is less knowledgeable than the last one of what is actually going on.

We are doomed to slip deeper and deeper into a police state losing inch by inch our freedom and our rights. It is happening so gradually, people don't notice it.

But I noticed when our government started using Hitler's term "homeland." "Protect the homeland!" Hitler would say. Then our government adopted that term. It was chilling.





I took history and aced history. What you mean is you don't considered people educated unless they know whatever stuff you want them to know. What might that be? Be specific. History is a broad term.


True History.


Chazster's photo
Fri 05/11/12 01:32 PM



History is extremely important. If you don't know true history and you claim to be "educated" you are deluding yourself. Even if you knew a little bit of history you would better understand the state of the world today.

Not understanding the state of the world today, and what is happening will be the downfall of America. Each generation is less knowledgeable than the last one of what is actually going on.

We are doomed to slip deeper and deeper into a police state losing inch by inch our freedom and our rights. It is happening so gradually, people don't notice it.

But I noticed when our government started using Hitler's term "homeland." "Protect the homeland!" Hitler would say. Then our government adopted that term. It was chilling.





I took history and aced history. What you mean is you don't considered people educated unless they know whatever stuff you want them to know. What might that be? Be specific. History is a broad term.


True History.




Your not being specific.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 05/11/12 01:54 PM

The ultimate goal is a police state.

In order to accomplish that goal the people have to believe that they have a serious enemy and that they need to be protected. In order for them to believe that enough to give up their rights and freedoms, they need to be terrified.

It is government sponsored terrorism. Hitler did the same thing.

9/11 WTC attack was a false flag in order to pass the Patriot act which robs citizens of their rights and places ultimate power into the hands of the police state.

Hitler's 9/11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmfzDHyN9G0

Hitler's false flag:
Hitler's burns down his own parliament building in order to create a climate of fear and take away civil liberties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI2NMDGq7k8


I don't know if you young folks were paying attention but it was Hitler who always used the term "homeland." He was always talking about protecting the "homeland." When I was young that word was associated with Hitler.

Suddenly we (America) adopted that word. I noticed it. Not many other people did.

If you forget history, you are doomed to ignorance.

If you read the words of Hitler in the first video, I think you will find them to be very similar to the words of the George Bush.







Nope,actually the term used by the Nazis was "VATERLAND",(FATHERLAND!slaphead

no photo
Fri 05/11/12 01:55 PM




History is extremely important. If you don't know true history and you claim to be "educated" you are deluding yourself. Even if you knew a little bit of history you would better understand the state of the world today.

Not understanding the state of the world today, and what is happening will be the downfall of America. Each generation is less knowledgeable than the last one of what is actually going on.

We are doomed to slip deeper and deeper into a police state losing inch by inch our freedom and our rights. It is happening so gradually, people don't notice it.

But I noticed when our government started using Hitler's term "homeland." "Protect the homeland!" Hitler would say. Then our government adopted that term. It was chilling.





I took history and aced history. What you mean is you don't considered people educated unless they know whatever stuff you want them to know. What might that be? Be specific. History is a broad term.


True History.




Your not being specific.


I don't want to debate with you any more because you don't care about truth.

no photo
Fri 05/11/12 01:56 PM


The ultimate goal is a police state.

In order to accomplish that goal the people have to believe that they have a serious enemy and that they need to be protected. In order for them to believe that enough to give up their rights and freedoms, they need to be terrified.

It is government sponsored terrorism. Hitler did the same thing.

9/11 WTC attack was a false flag in order to pass the Patriot act which robs citizens of their rights and places ultimate power into the hands of the police state.

Hitler's 9/11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmfzDHyN9G0

Hitler's false flag:
Hitler's burns down his own parliament building in order to create a climate of fear and take away civil liberties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI2NMDGq7k8


I don't know if you young folks were paying attention but it was Hitler who always used the term "homeland." He was always talking about protecting the "homeland." When I was young that word was associated with Hitler.

Suddenly we (America) adopted that word. I noticed it. Not many other people did.

If you forget history, you are doomed to ignorance.

If you read the words of Hitler in the first video, I think you will find them to be very similar to the words of the George Bush.







Nope,actually the term used by the Nazis was "VATERLAND",(FATHERLAND!slaphead


Nope the communists used "homeland." A lot.

Chazster's photo
Fri 05/11/12 02:00 PM





History is extremely important. If you don't know true history and you claim to be "educated" you are deluding yourself. Even if you knew a little bit of history you would better understand the state of the world today.

Not understanding the state of the world today, and what is happening will be the downfall of America. Each generation is less knowledgeable than the last one of what is actually going on.

We are doomed to slip deeper and deeper into a police state losing inch by inch our freedom and our rights. It is happening so gradually, people don't notice it.

But I noticed when our government started using Hitler's term "homeland." "Protect the homeland!" Hitler would say. Then our government adopted that term. It was chilling.





I took history and aced history. What you mean is you don't considered people educated unless they know whatever stuff you want them to know. What might that be? Be specific. History is a broad term.


True History.




Your not being specific.


I don't want to debate with you any more because you don't care about truth.


It's not a debate. I am asking what true history you say everyone should know or they are not educated.

no photo
Fri 05/11/12 02:11 PM






History is extremely important. If you don't know true history and you claim to be "educated" you are deluding yourself. Even if you knew a little bit of history you would better understand the state of the world today.

Not understanding the state of the world today, and what is happening will be the downfall of America. Each generation is less knowledgeable than the last one of what is actually going on.

We are doomed to slip deeper and deeper into a police state losing inch by inch our freedom and our rights. It is happening so gradually, people don't notice it.

But I noticed when our government started using Hitler's term "homeland." "Protect the homeland!" Hitler would say. Then our government adopted that term. It was chilling.





I took history and aced history. What you mean is you don't considered people educated unless they know whatever stuff you want them to know. What might that be? Be specific. History is a broad term.


True History.




Your not being specific.


I don't want to debate with you any more because you don't care about truth.


It's not a debate. I am asking what true history you say everyone should know or they are not educated.


Yes I said that. I stand by it.

The truth can be known, but not if you accept everything your government tells you as the gospel. Some things are a matter of record. You probably think the civil war was all about slavery.


InvictusV's photo
Fri 05/11/12 02:16 PM



I hope the supporters and believers of the official account of 9/11 are having a lot of fun in this thread.

It is a perfect example of a classic and desperate attempt at ridicule directed at people who are looking for and will expose the truth about the attack on the WTC.

Your ridicule is a defense mechanism and an attempt to discredit people who are uncovering the truth that you don't want to face.




What truth have you personally uncovered?

Copy and pasting from truther sites is not truth or evidence or fact.

It is just copying and pasting.




I can see clearly that the official account of 9/11 is a lie and a cover up from all angles. I look at both sides and I do a lot of reading and research that I sure most people don't do.

I also know sarcasm and ridicule when I see it because I get it a lot of it from people who are defending their core beliefs and don't want to hear it. They respond with anger to the simplest fact or suggestion and they make fun of me, always trying to get others to join them.

None of that bothers me. Some people genuinely want the truth because they don't want to live in a pool of lies or delusions.

When something is not right, I ask questions. People will sometimes get really angry just because I ask the questions. That rings an alarm bell with me.

When I copy and paste something it is just information to be considered. A person can read it or not. If a person does not want to look for answers, or consider or hear the question, that is certainly fine with me.

The information in my head does not add up to the official report being true. In fact the official report is an outlandish obvious and ridiculous lie in my opinion.

That is just where I stand on the issue.










You are assuming that people who don't buy the conspiracy have done no research or looked at this objectively and concluded that the conspiracy theories have no merit based on official reports.

I for one, have spent many an hour looking at the "evidence" on AE for 9-11 truth and I can say beyond any doubt that they are doing it for:

1. Money
2. They have a political axe to grind with Bush and Republicans
3. Money


Their theories are a sham. Their evidence is a fning joke.

They want peoples money, and there are enough idiots around the world that are more than willing to give it to them.



no photo
Fri 05/11/12 02:26 PM




I hope the supporters and believers of the official account of 9/11 are having a lot of fun in this thread.

It is a perfect example of a classic and desperate attempt at ridicule directed at people who are looking for and will expose the truth about the attack on the WTC.

Your ridicule is a defense mechanism and an attempt to discredit people who are uncovering the truth that you don't want to face.




What truth have you personally uncovered?

Copy and pasting from truther sites is not truth or evidence or fact.

It is just copying and pasting.




I can see clearly that the official account of 9/11 is a lie and a cover up from all angles. I look at both sides and I do a lot of reading and research that I sure most people don't do.

I also know sarcasm and ridicule when I see it because I get it a lot of it from people who are defending their core beliefs and don't want to hear it. They respond with anger to the simplest fact or suggestion and they make fun of me, always trying to get others to join them.

None of that bothers me. Some people genuinely want the truth because they don't want to live in a pool of lies or delusions.

When something is not right, I ask questions. People will sometimes get really angry just because I ask the questions. That rings an alarm bell with me.

When I copy and paste something it is just information to be considered. A person can read it or not. If a person does not want to look for answers, or consider or hear the question, that is certainly fine with me.

The information in my head does not add up to the official report being true. In fact the official report is an outlandish obvious and ridiculous lie in my opinion.

That is just where I stand on the issue.










You are assuming that people who don't buy the conspiracy have done no research or looked at this objectively and concluded that the conspiracy theories have no merit based on official reports.

I for one, have spent many an hour looking at the "evidence" on AE for 9-11 truth and I can say beyond any doubt that they are doing it for:

1. Money
2. They have a political axe to grind with Bush and Republicans
3. Money


Their theories are a sham. Their evidence is a fning joke.

They want peoples money, and there are enough idiots around the world that are more than willing to give it to them.




That is your opinion. You are one of the 16% of the people who buy the official account.

I am sure there are a lot of different "conspiracy theories" about what really happened on 9/11. I am not involved in any of them. I don't know what particular conspiracy theory you are referring to either. I don't give any money to any of them. I have purchased books on both sides of the issue.

I am just glad that MOST thinking people are not just buying the official fictional account without questions.

It is not about money for most. I'm sure there are a few who are trying to make money but that's not surprising.

But the idea that someone would get involved in conspiracy theory "because" they have a "political ax to grind with Bush or republicans is grasping at straws. How about they just want the truth?

How about people are just sick and tired of being lied to? If you want to see "evidence" that is a joke, look at the evidence that supposedly supports the official version. That's a joke.


Conrad_73's photo
Fri 05/11/12 02:40 PM



The ultimate goal is a police state.

In order to accomplish that goal the people have to believe that they have a serious enemy and that they need to be protected. In order for them to believe that enough to give up their rights and freedoms, they need to be terrified.

It is government sponsored terrorism. Hitler did the same thing.

9/11 WTC attack was a false flag in order to pass the Patriot act which robs citizens of their rights and places ultimate power into the hands of the police state.

Hitler's 9/11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmfzDHyN9G0

Hitler's false flag:
Hitler's burns down his own parliament building in order to create a climate of fear and take away civil liberties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI2NMDGq7k8


I don't know if you young folks were paying attention but it was Hitler who always used the term "homeland." He was always talking about protecting the "homeland." When I was young that word was associated with Hitler.

Suddenly we (America) adopted that word. I noticed it. Not many other people did.

If you forget history, you are doomed to ignorance.

If you read the words of Hitler in the first video, I think you will find them to be very similar to the words of the George Bush.







Nope,actually the term used by the Nazis was "VATERLAND",(FATHERLAND!slaphead


Nope the communists used "homeland." A lot.
:laughing: Hitler was the Leader of the NAZIs,not the Communists!rofl

no photo
Fri 05/11/12 02:41 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 05/11/12 02:43 PM




The ultimate goal is a police state.

In order to accomplish that goal the people have to believe that they have a serious enemy and that they need to be protected. In order for them to believe that enough to give up their rights and freedoms, they need to be terrified.

It is government sponsored terrorism. Hitler did the same thing.

9/11 WTC attack was a false flag in order to pass the Patriot act which robs citizens of their rights and places ultimate power into the hands of the police state.

Hitler's 9/11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmfzDHyN9G0

Hitler's false flag:
Hitler's burns down his own parliament building in order to create a climate of fear and take away civil liberties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI2NMDGq7k8


I don't know if you young folks were paying attention but it was Hitler who always used the term "homeland." He was always talking about protecting the "homeland." When I was young that word was associated with Hitler.

Suddenly we (America) adopted that word. I noticed it. Not many other people did.

If you forget history, you are doomed to ignorance.

If you read the words of Hitler in the first video, I think you will find them to be very similar to the words of the George Bush.







Nope,actually the term used by the Nazis was "VATERLAND",(FATHERLAND!slaphead


Nope the communists used "homeland." A lot.
:laughing: Hitler was the Leader of the NAZIs,not the Communists!rofl


Yep and they still used "homeland."

Hitler was a dictator. Nazis, Communists, all the same political extremism.


Conrad_73's photo
Fri 05/11/12 02:43 PM





The ultimate goal is a police state.

In order to accomplish that goal the people have to believe that they have a serious enemy and that they need to be protected. In order for them to believe that enough to give up their rights and freedoms, they need to be terrified.

It is government sponsored terrorism. Hitler did the same thing.

9/11 WTC attack was a false flag in order to pass the Patriot act which robs citizens of their rights and places ultimate power into the hands of the police state.

Hitler's 9/11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmfzDHyN9G0

Hitler's false flag:
Hitler's burns down his own parliament building in order to create a climate of fear and take away civil liberties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI2NMDGq7k8


I don't know if you young folks were paying attention but it was Hitler who always used the term "homeland." He was always talking about protecting the "homeland." When I was young that word was associated with Hitler.

Suddenly we (America) adopted that word. I noticed it. Not many other people did.

If you forget history, you are doomed to ignorance.

If you read the words of Hitler in the first video, I think you will find them to be very similar to the words of the George Bush.







Nope,actually the term used by the Nazis was "VATERLAND",(FATHERLAND!slaphead


Nope the communists used "homeland." A lot.
:laughing: Hitler was the Leader of the NAZIs,not the Communists!rofl


Yep and they still used "homeland."

Hitler was a dictator.
Now you wanna teach me German as well?:laughing:

no photo
Fri 05/11/12 02:46 PM
Nazis, Communists, all the same political extremism.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 05/11/12 02:59 PM

Nazis, Communists, all the same political extremism.
I think you had better read up some on Twentieth Century European History,if that is the extent of your Knowledge of Europe in that Century!

no photo
Fri 05/11/12 03:04 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 05/11/12 03:06 PM
and they all used the term "homeland."bigsmile



Nazis, Communists, all the same political extremism.
I think you had better read up some on Twentieth Century European History,if that is the extent of your Knowledge of Europe in that Century!





I will if you will learn about the history of this country. That is where you should start.


Conrad_73's photo
Fri 05/11/12 03:09 PM

and they all used the term "homeland."bigsmile



Nazis, Communists, all the same political extremism.
I think you had better read up some on Twentieth Century European History,if that is the extent of your Knowledge of Europe in that Century!





I will if you will learn about the history of this country. That is where you should start.


I do know quite a bit more about your Countrie's History,than you do about Twentieth Century Europe's own!
Its actually Mother Russia,and Germany was always the Vaterland!


Even in Die Wacht Am Rhein!laugh

no photo
Fri 05/11/12 03:11 PM


and they all used the term "homeland."bigsmile



Nazis, Communists, all the same political extremism.
I think you had better read up some on Twentieth Century European History,if that is the extent of your Knowledge of Europe in that Century!





I will if you will learn about the history of this country. That is where you should start.


I do know quite a bit more about your Countrie's History,than you do about Twentieth Century Europe's own!
Its actually Mother Russia,and Germany was always the Vaterland!


Even in Die Wacht Am Rhein!laugh


I'm sure you know a lot about those communist countries. laugh laugh

mightymoe's photo
Fri 05/11/12 03:15 PM

Nazis, Communists, all the same political extremism.


the russians were communists, and they beat hitler in WW2...

Chazster's photo
Fri 05/11/12 03:22 PM







History is extremely important. If you don't know true history and you claim to be "educated" you are deluding yourself. Even if you knew a little bit of history you would better understand the state of the world today.

Not understanding the state of the world today, and what is happening will be the downfall of America. Each generation is less knowledgeable than the last one of what is actually going on.

We are doomed to slip deeper and deeper into a police state losing inch by inch our freedom and our rights. It is happening so gradually, people don't notice it.

But I noticed when our government started using Hitler's term "homeland." "Protect the homeland!" Hitler would say. Then our government adopted that term. It was chilling.





I took history and aced history. What you mean is you don't considered people educated unless they know whatever stuff you want them to know. What might that be? Be specific. History is a broad term.


True History.




Your not being specific.


I don't want to debate with you any more because you don't care about truth.


It's not a debate. I am asking what true history you say everyone should know or they are not educated.


Yes I said that. I stand by it.

The truth can be known, but not if you accept everything your government tells you as the gospel. Some things are a matter of record. You probably think the civil war was all about slavery.




No I assume you are talking out your ***.