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Topic: What do you think? A TRUE American? HA!
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 04/11/12 07:26 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 04/11/12 07:32 AM
View the pic, read the post, post your comments.

TO BE CLEAR.... this is NOT a racist post, IT GOES FAR BEYOND THAT!

There is NO "logical or acceptable" explanation for his action, or inaction, regardless! As CIC of our military he could salute, as "leader" of our nation, at least place his hand over his heart as a sign of dedication, patriotism, or respect to our fundemental values it stands for! HE COVERED HIS CROTCH!!!!!!

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_obama_non_salute.htm

This is an old photo of our dictat......president.... at some ceremony where OUR flag was presented or OUR National Anthem was being sung....

The photo is genuine tho the different representations of the event location have been skewered during its many postings. Other than that, WHERE IS THE PATRIOTISM, THE RESPECT, THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF HONOR AND DEDICATION TO COUNTRY?

The photo has cirrculated since 2009, and a lot has happened since then.....

1. Reinstatement of the Patriot Act

2. War escalated in Afghanistan

3. More power to the FED

4. Broader tolerance and freedom from prosecution for TSA officials and personnel

5. $4 Trillion dollars added to National debt, another $1.3T asked for!

6. The NDAA bill

7. The Martial Law bill

8. Promised "flexibility" to Russia on European missle defense after "re-election", weakening our allies defense

9. Cancellation of 1st amendment rights near "officials or property" under Secret Service protection

10. Racist promotion of the Treyvon Martin shooting

11. Promised "gun control legislation" for votes in secret meeting (again after re-election)....then "Fast & Furious" occurs (under WH's Eric Holder) raising gun tensions among the bleeding hearts

12. Slams the SCOTUS as an "unelected, activist" body, with NO real standing in our national gov't..... (they are the last line of defense against a tyrannical, fascist gov't for "we the people"!)

These are only a few (that we are aware of) of the many Anti American decisions this fraudulent "leader" has placed on the American public and its people.

It is easy to see where his loyalties DO NOT lay, the question is, to whom are they dedicated if NOT America?

In less than 3 years under this tyrant dictator, OUR nation has become the laughing stock of the whole world! He has destroyed our economy, our constitution, our bill of rights, our American Dream!

Can you HONESTLY say, we, as a nation, can last under another 4 years of this treason to our nation, its people, and it's laws?

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/11/12 07:36 AM
wow, this is incredible on so many levels

not only is the picture admittedly old

the SOURCE used is an urban legends site DEBUNKING The claim


"Lastly, there's a perfectly good reason why President Obama wasn't saluting when the emailed photo was taken, even though everyone else on the dais was. C-Span video footage reveals that the moment in question occurred just after Obama was introduced and the band began playing "Hail to the Chief."


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 04/11/12 07:42 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 04/11/12 07:46 AM

wow, this is incredible on so many levels

not only is the picture admittedly old

the SOURCE used is an urban legends site DEBUNKING The claim


"Lastly, there's a perfectly good reason why President Obama wasn't saluting when the emailed photo was taken, even though everyone else on the dais was. C-Span video footage reveals that the moment in question occurred just after Obama was introduced and the band began playing "Hail to the Chief."




....while everyone else was still in reverance to the flag, otherwise the one guy would NOT still have his hand over his heart!

Try again!

It also does NOTHING to explain his shopping list mentioned further down, during his term this last 3 years

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/11/12 07:48 AM
the shopping list is a bunch of subjective personal opinion

doesnt need proving or disproving

and you should follow your own advise

the PRESIDENT does not salute or put his hand on his heart during the playing of hail to the chief

here is the COMPLETE ceremony(including the portion where he DOES place his hand over his heart in respect),,,

http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.c%2Dspanarchives.org/program/286572%2D1

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 04/11/12 08:00 AM

the shopping list is a bunch of subjective personal opinion

doesnt need proving or disproving

and you should follow your own advise

the PRESIDENT does not salute or put his hand on his heart during the playing of hail to the chief

here is the COMPLETE ceremony(including the portion where he DOES place his hand over his heart in respect),,,

http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.c%2Dspanarchives.org/program/286572%2D1


NOBODY puts their hand over their heart during hail to the chief.... why your explanation doesn't hold water since the one guy is still in reverance to the flag....

As for the list.... these are facts, not personal opinions.

The pic could be on an outhouse wall, it doesn't change anything in its validity!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 04/11/12 08:10 AM

Sorry MsH....I'll view your video and do some more research myself.

Not feeling so great this morning and a little short on wits at present.

I'm sure you know it is nothing personal flowers

no photo
Wed 04/11/12 08:20 AM
ive seen videos of this before


plus he wants everything religious/christian covered up before he goes there

there is only one type of wood that witches can cast spells with

holly wood

it seems to be working the people are under the spell

satan will deceive the whole world

im sure he went to bohemian grove too

srnold schwarzenegger and his ex wife are part of it too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

Lpdon's photo
Wed 04/11/12 10:58 AM


To bad this isn't the only incident.

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/11/12 12:24 PM


the shopping list is a bunch of subjective personal opinion

doesnt need proving or disproving

and you should follow your own advise

the PRESIDENT does not salute or put his hand on his heart during the playing of hail to the chief

here is the COMPLETE ceremony(including the portion where he DOES place his hand over his heart in respect),,,

http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.c%2Dspanarchives.org/program/286572%2D1


NOBODY puts their hand over their heart during hail to the chief.... why your explanation doesn't hold water since the one guy is still in reverance to the flag....

As for the list.... these are facts, not personal opinions.

The pic could be on an outhouse wall, it doesn't change anything in its validity!




nobody puts their hand on their heart? really? so you believe EVERYONE is aware of proper 'protocol' and never uses the incorrect gestures?

your list was opinion , and the pic is irrelevant where it is concerned

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/11/12 12:25 PM



To bad this isn't the only incident.



too bad everyone doesnt realize a picture is one second in time that rarely tells a whole story,,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 04/11/12 12:38 PM

Your right Ms H. Actions speak louder than words, or pics, the list however is only a part of his treasonous legacy in office, and all are reported facts and actual exec orders he has made!

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/11/12 12:39 PM


Your right Ms H. Actions speak louder than words, or pics, the list however is only a part of his treasonous legacy in office, and all are reported facts and actual exec orders he has made!



most of what is listed about bills being signed is, of course, verifiable and true

the opinions of what the bills did or who is responsible for them is a big part of that list though,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 04/11/12 12:44 PM



Your right Ms H. Actions speak louder than words, or pics, the list however is only a part of his treasonous legacy in office, and all are reported facts and actual exec orders he has made!



most of what is listed about bills being signed is, of course, verifiable and true

the opinions of what the bills did or who is responsible for them is a big part of that list though,,,


Only 2 are not solely his.... the patriot act was Bush, but he extended and enhanced it....Fast and Furious.... his boy Holder, who is still free when he should be impeached and imprisioned as an accomplice to the murders by those weapons!

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/11/12 12:48 PM
MArrtial LAw and NDAA refer to the same bill

which is extended from the already existent AUMF

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 04/11/12 02:53 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 04/11/12 02:53 PM

MArrtial LAw and NDAA refer to the same bill

which is extended from the already existent AUMF


WRONG!

The NDAA allows the military to arrest citizens and indefinately detain them without trial, also gives the pres power to assassinate at will US citizens.

The new Martial Law bill allows the president to enact wartime powers in times of peace at his descretion, without a declaration of war, seizing control of all utilities, food stores, transportation and property, loss of all civil rights and priviledges!

2 separate and distinct bills, both against the American people, and for what reason?

mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/11/12 02:55 PM
your forgetting, soul.... obama could kill all the cats in the world, and she would still think he is superman...people that think he is a god can never see his pitfalls....

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/11/12 03:10 PM

your forgetting, soul.... obama could kill all the cats in the world, and she would still think he is superman...people that think he is a god can never see his pitfalls....



I dont think he is a superman, I just think people should be sure to research statements posted as fact

martial law and NDAA are the SAME BILL....


there is no seperate martial law bill,,,


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 04/11/12 03:13 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 04/11/12 03:15 PM


your forgetting, soul.... obama could kill all the cats in the world, and she would still think he is superman...people that think he is a god can never see his pitfalls....



I dont think he is a superman, I just think people should be sure to research statements posted as fact

martial law and NDAA are the SAME BILL....


there is no seperate martial law bill,,,




WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!

NDAA he signed Jan 1, 2012 while in Hawaii for xmas, the ML bill was less than 2 weeks ago

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/11/12 03:15 PM
can you point me to one source that seperates the two bills or the TEXT of the alleged 'martial law bill'?

the phrase became popular because Ron Paul alleged that the President was declaring martial law by signing NDAA

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 04/11/12 03:18 PM



Obama is an asss hole and HOPEfully we will have CHANGE come November.

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