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Topic: Obama by Default
Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sat 04/07/12 07:13 AM
April 06, 2012 "Truthdig" -- The Republicans are a sick joke, and their narrow ideological stupidity has left rational voters no choice in the coming presidential election but Barack Obama. With Ron Paul out of it and warmongering hedge fund hustler Mitt Romney the likely Republican nominee, the GOP has defined itself indelibly as the party of moneyed greed and unfettered imperialism. It is with chilling certainty that one can predict that a single Romney appointee to the Supreme Court would seal the coup of the 1 percent that already is well on its way toward purchasing the nation’s political soul. Romney is the quintessential Citizens United super PAC candidate, a man who has turned avarice into virtue and comes to us now as a once-moderate politician transformed into the ultimate prophet of imperial hubris, blaming everyone from the Chinese to laid-off American workers for our problems. Everyone, that is, except the Wall Street-dominated GOP, which midwifed the Great Recession under George W. Bush and now seeks to blame Obama for the enormous deficit spawned by the party’s wanton behavior. Without a militarily sophisticated enemy anywhere on the planet, the United States, thanks to the Bush-bloated budget, now spends almost as much on defense as the rest of the world combined. Yet the GOP honchos dare claim they are for small government even as their chosen candidate champs at the bit to go to war with Iran. They obviously learned nothing from the disasters of Bush the Second, who hijacked the tragedy of 9/11 to launch the most wasteful orgy of military spending in U.S. history in his failed effort to take out an al-Qaida enemy that had no significant military arsenal. That enemy was later eliminated by Obama, whom the Republicans still obstinately refuse to credit for accomplishing what Bush failed to. Can you imagine the explosion of preening self-congratulation that would have resulted if a GOP president had done the deed? The red-ink deficits that had been stanched under Bill Clinton came to gush uncontrollably because of the swollen military budgets, compounded by the severe costs of the recession that occurred on Bush’s watch. But the Republicans refuse to take ownership of the collapse resulting from their longstanding advocacy of radical financial deregulation that led to the derivatives bubble, hundreds of trillions of dollars of toxic junk, now a permanent, nightmarish feature of the world’s economy. Romney, who made his fortune through such financial finagling, even has the effrontery to call for more of the same and blame Obama’s tepid efforts at establishing some sane speed limits for the financial highway as a cause of our ongoing crisis. So insanely gullible are Republican voters that they buy Mitt’s line that bailing out the auto industry to save the heart of America’s legendary industrial base was an example of big-government waste. Yet to them the almost unimaginable sum spent on the Wall Street bailout represents prudent small-government fiscal responsibility. The incumbent president has his failings, but compared to Mitt Romney he is a paradigm of considered and compassionate thought. As Obama put it in a speech before a journalism group this week, we are saddled with a national debt “that has grown over the last decade, primarily as a result of two wars, two massive tax cuts, and an unprecedented financial crisis, [and] that will have to be paid down.” But instead of dealing with the causes of that debt, Romney has called for an increase in military spending, continued tax breaks for the rich and reversal of the very limited restraints on corporate greed that Obama managed to get through Congress. He has endorsed the House-passed Paul Ryan budget, which, as Obama noted, even Newt Gingrich once derided as “radical” and an effort at “right-wing social engineering.” Such radicalism leaves Obama as the “moderate” choice in the coming election, defending centrist programs that Republicans in the past helped originate. Indeed, the big attack on Obama will involve what the Republicans call Obamacare—which was modeled in every important respect on Romneycare, enacted when the GOP candidate was governor of Massachusetts. The overarching lesson of this primary season is that Romney and the Republicans he seeks to win over are incapable of embracing the very moderation that, particularly in the golden era of Dwight Eisenhower, defined the party. Instead, they are now a reckless force bent on destroying the essential social contract that has been the basis of America’s economic and social progress. As Obama said Tuesday in addressing the editors and reporters: “... We’re going to have to answer a central question as a nation. ... Can we succeed as a country where a shrinking number of people do exceedingly well, while a growing number struggle to get by? ... This is not just another run-of-the-mill political debate. ... It’s the defining issue of our time.” http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31004.htm

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 04/07/12 07:16 AM
Good Article Two Snippets (1) The Republicans are a sick joke, and their narrow ideological stupidity has left rational voters no choice in the coming presidential election but Barack Obama. With Ron Paul out of it and warmongering hedge fund hustler Mitt Romney the likely Republican nominee, the GOP has defined itself indelibly as the party of moneyed greed and unfettered imperialism. (2) As Obama said Tuesday in addressing the editors and reporters: “... We’re going to have to answer a central question as a nation. ... Can we succeed as a country where a shrinking number of people do exceedingly well, while a growing number struggle to get by? ... This is not just another run-of-the-mill political debate. ... It’s the defining issue of our time.”

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sat 04/07/12 07:20 AM Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 04/07/12 07:21 AM
April 06, 2012 "Truthdig" -- The Republicans are a sick joke, and their narrow ideological stupidity has left rational voters no choice in the coming presidential election but Barack Obama. With Ron Paul out of it and warmongering hedge fund hustler Mitt Romney the likely Republican nominee, the GOP has defined itself indelibly as the party of moneyed greed and unfettered imperialism. It is with chilling certainty that one can predict that a single Romney appointee to the Supreme Court would seal the coup of the 1 percent that already is well on its way toward purchasing the nation’s political soul. Romney is the quintessential Citizens United super PAC candidate, a man who has turned avarice into virtue and comes to us now as a once-moderate politician transformed into the ultimate prophet of imperial hubris, blaming everyone from the Chinese to laid-off American workers for our problems. Everyone, that is, except the Wall Street-dominated GOP, which midwifed the Great Recession under George W. Bush and now seeks to blame Obama for the enormous deficit spawned by the party’s wanton behavior. Without a militarily sophisticated enemy anywhere on the planet, the United States, thanks to the Bush-bloated budget, now spends almost as much on defense as the rest of the world combined. Yet the GOP honchos dare claim they are for small government even as their chosen candidate champs at the bit to go to war with Iran. They obviously learned nothing from the disasters of Bush the Second, who hijacked the tragedy of 9/11 to launch the most wasteful orgy of military spending in U.S. history in his failed effort to take out an al-Qaida enemy that had no significant military arsenal. That enemy was later eliminated by Obama, whom the Republicans still obstinately refuse to credit for accomplishing what Bush failed to. Can you imagine the explosion of preening self-congratulation that would have resulted if a GOP president had done the deed? The red-ink deficits that had been stanched under Bill Clinton came to gush uncontrollably because of the swollen military budgets, compounded by the severe costs of the recession that occurred on Bush’s watch. But the Republicans refuse to take ownership of the collapse resulting from their longstanding advocacy of radical financial deregulation that led to the derivatives bubble, hundreds of trillions of dollars of toxic junk, now a permanent, nightmarish feature of the world’s economy. Romney, who made his fortune through such financial finagling, even has the effrontery to call for more of the same and blame Obama’s tepid efforts at establishing some sane speed limits for the financial highway as a cause of our ongoing crisis. So insanely gullible are Republican voters that they buy Mitt’s line that bailing out the auto industry to save the heart of America’s legendary industrial base was an example of big-government waste. Yet to them the almost unimaginable sum spent on the Wall Street bailout represents prudent small-government fiscal responsibility. The incumbent president has his failings, but compared to Mitt Romney he is a paradigm of considered and compassionate thought. As Obama put it in a speech before a journalism group this week, we are saddled with a national debt “that has grown over the last decade, primarily as a result of two wars, two massive tax cuts, and an unprecedented financial crisis, [and] that will have to be paid down.” But instead of dealing with the causes of that debt, Romney has called for an increase in military spending, continued tax breaks for the rich and reversal of the very limited restraints on corporate greed that Obama managed to get through Congress. He has endorsed the House-passed Paul Ryan budget, which, as Obama noted, even Newt Gingrich once derided as “radical” and an effort at “right-wing social engineering.” Such radicalism leaves Obama as the “moderate” choice in the coming election, defending centrist programs that Republicans in the past helped originate. Indeed, the big attack on Obama will involve what the Republicans call Obamacare—which was modeled in every important respect on Romneycare, enacted when the GOP candidate was governor of Massachusetts. The overarching lesson of this primary season is that Romney and the Republicans he seeks to win over are incapable of embracing the very moderation that, particularly in the golden era of Dwight Eisenhower, defined the party. Instead, they are now a reckless force bent on destroying the essential social contract that has been the basis of America’s economic and social progress. As Obama said Tuesday in addressing the editors and reporters: “... We’re going to have to answer a central question as a nation. ... Can we succeed as a country where a shrinking number of people do exceedingly well, while a growing number struggle to get by? ... This is not just another run-of-the-mill political debate. ... It’s the defining issue of our time.” http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31004.htm yeah,Those Good Old Times! Obama the SpendThrift! Rational Voters? Like Nov.2008?

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 04/07/12 07:28 AM
Address this con Can we succeed as a country where a shrinking number of people do exceedingly well, while a growing number struggle to get by? ... This is not just another run-of-the-mill political debate. ... It’s the defining issue of our time.”

poacher1960 Joined Sun 07/31/11 Posts: 16	Sat 04/07/12 07:34 AM
I will vote for Paul (write in). I am a registered republican but I hate both parties almost equally. If I was voting for the lesser of two evils (with is still voting for evil), I'd have to vote for Obama. All the republicans, excepting Paul, are boasting they'll go to war (actually an ill used Constitutional term) with Iran. I'm sick of it.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sat 04/07/12 08:10 AM
Address this con Can we succeed as a country where a shrinking number of people do exceedingly well, while a growing number struggle to get by? ... This is not just another run-of-the-mill political debate. ... It’s the defining issue of our time.” Bull,and you know it! and how come the Red Candidate hasn't been alble to revers it,if it was that bad? Not with all the Trillions he gave his Cronies? Nope,it is time for the Red Tent Brigade to admit that more and more Government Regulation in the Economy translates to less and less Wealth for the General Public,and to more and more unearned Riches for their Cronies! Ain't no accident that Soros made Billions off Obama's Policies!

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 04/07/12 09:21 AM Edited by Optomistic69 on Sat 04/07/12 09:23 AM
Address this con Can we succeed as a country where a shrinking number of people do exceedingly well, while a growing number struggle to get by? ... This is not just another run-of-the-mill political debate. ... It’s the defining issue of our time.” Bull,and you know it! and how come the Red Candidate hasn't been alble to revers it,if it was that bad? Not with all the Trillions he gave his Cronies? Nope,it is time for the Red Tent Brigade to admit that more and more Government Regulation in the Economy translates to less and less Wealth for the General Public,and to more and more unearned Riches for their Cronies! Ain't no accident that Soros made Billions off Obama's Policies! Remember he is going for a second term and has to be all things to all men. Obama wants to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire for the richest Americans, and he has embraced the idea that wealthy Americans should not be paying a lower effective tax rate than those in the middle or lower classes. It seems to me that he is at least trying. If he gets elected which I believe he must, then we will see the real Obama otherwise America is is deep trouble.

boredinaz06 Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 22764	Sat 04/07/12 10:14 AM
In regards to Mitt not being able to beat King Turd I think that is a correct statement. If people were not taken so easily by slick hair, smooth talk and bleached smiles we would be in much better shape RON PAUL FTW 2012 \,,/

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 04/07/12 10:18 AM
In regards to Mitt not being able to beat King Turd I think that is a correct statement. If people were not taken so easily by slick hair, smooth talk and bleached smiles we would be in much better shape RON PAUL FTW 2012 \,,/ Blank

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sat 04/07/12 10:26 AM
Address this con Can we succeed as a country where a shrinking number of people do exceedingly well, while a growing number struggle to get by? ... This is not just another run-of-the-mill political debate. ... It’s the defining issue of our time.” Bull,and you know it! and how come the Red Candidate hasn't been alble to revers it,if it was that bad? Not with all the Trillions he gave his Cronies? Nope,it is time for the Red Tent Brigade to admit that more and more Government Regulation in the Economy translates to less and less Wealth for the General Public,and to more and more unearned Riches for their Cronies! Ain't no accident that Soros made Billions off Obama's Policies! Remember he is going for a second term and has to be all things to all men. Obama wants to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire for the richest Americans, and he has embraced the idea that wealthy Americans should not be paying a lower effective tax rate than those in the middle or lower classes. It seems to me that he is at least trying. If he gets elected which I believe he must, then we will see the real Obama otherwise America is is deep trouble. America WILL be in real Trouble if Red Man gets elected again!

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 04/07/12 10:38 AM
It seems to me that there are some people that cannot stand the prospect of America becoming a peaceful nation. It also looks like some people are really scared that the richest among us might be taxed. And the biggest worry of all is that there are people who do not want universal healthcare for everybody. All that would make sense if those people were part of the 1% but my guess is that they are just like me.....an ordinary guy There is nothing as weird as folk

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sat 04/07/12 11:00 AM
It seems to me that there are some people that cannot stand the prospect of America becoming a peaceful nation. It also looks like some people are really scared that the richest among us might be taxed. And the biggest worry of all is that there are people who do not want universal healthcare for everybody. All that would make sense if those people were part of the 1% but my guess is that they are just like me.....an ordinary guy There is nothing as weird as folk maybe you need to delve into that Mess authored by Obama's Boys some! Yep,as usual,let the US rake the Chestnuts out the Fire for the world,then blame her for it! Guess the EU will step up to the plate,instead of the French and Germans selling Weapons to every Two-Bit Wannabe like Saddam and the Mad Colonel! why don't you,for once say what you really mean,instead of Dancing?

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sun 04/08/12 05:44 AM
It seems to me that there are some people that cannot stand the prospect of America becoming a peaceful nation. It also looks like some people are really scared that the richest among us might be taxed. And the biggest worry of all is that there are people who do not want universal healthcare for everybody. All that would make sense if those people were part of the 1% but my guess is that they are just like me.....an ordinary guy There is nothing as weird as folk maybe you need to delve into that Mess authored by Obama's Boys some! Yep,as usual,let the US rake the Chestnuts out the Fire for the world,then blame her for it! Guess the EU will step up to the plate,instead of the French and Germans selling Weapons to every Two-Bit Wannabe like Saddam and the Mad Colonel! why don't you,for once say what you really mean,instead of Dancing? Come to america mr conrad and live here and see how it is. Do you not enjoy a government pension and medical care in Switzerland? A google fact check. Swiss are required to purchase basic health insurance, which covers a range of treatments detailed in the Federal Act. It is therefore the same throughout the country and avoids double standards in healthcare. Insurers are required to offer this basic insurance to everyone, regardless of age or medical condition. They are not allowed to make a profit off this basic insurance, but can on supplemental plans.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 04/08/12 06:03 AM
It seems to me that there are some people that cannot stand the prospect of America becoming a peaceful nation. It also looks like some people are really scared that the richest among us might be taxed. And the biggest worry of all is that there are people who do not want universal healthcare for everybody. All that would make sense if those people were part of the 1% but my guess is that they are just like me.....an ordinary guy There is nothing as weird as folk maybe you need to delve into that Mess authored by Obama's Boys some! Yep,as usual,let the US rake the Chestnuts out the Fire for the world,then blame her for it! Guess the EU will step up to the plate,instead of the French and Germans selling Weapons to every Two-Bit Wannabe like Saddam and the Mad Colonel! why don't you,for once say what you really mean,instead of Dancing? Come to america mr conrad and live here and see how it is. Do you not enjoy a government pension and medical care in Switzerland? A google fact check. Swiss are required to purchase basic health insurance, which covers a range of treatments detailed in the Federal Act. It is therefore the same throughout the country and avoids double standards in healthcare. Insurers are required to offer this basic insurance to everyone, regardless of age or medical condition. They are not allowed to make a profit off this basic insurance, but can on supplemental plans.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland I pay for my Medical Care! And I paid for my Pension! Yep,the Insurers are allowed to make Profit,contrary what you read! i live here,and have my Medical Insurance here! Quite a difference from that ungodly mess Obama and the Democrat are trying to foist on you!

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sun 04/08/12 06:06 AM
It seems to me that there are some people that cannot stand the prospect of America becoming a peaceful nation. It also looks like some people are really scared that the richest among us might be taxed. And the biggest worry of all is that there are people who do not want universal healthcare for everybody. All that would make sense if those people were part of the 1% but my guess is that they are just like me.....an ordinary guy There is nothing as weird as folk maybe you need to delve into that Mess authored by Obama's Boys some! Yep,as usual,let the US rake the Chestnuts out the Fire for the world,then blame her for it! Guess the EU will step up to the plate,instead of the French and Germans selling Weapons to every Two-Bit Wannabe like Saddam and the Mad Colonel! why don't you,for once say what you really mean,instead of Dancing? Come to america mr conrad and live here and see how it is. Do you not enjoy a government pension and medical care in Switzerland? A google fact check. Swiss are required to purchase basic health insurance, which covers a range of treatments detailed in the Federal Act. It is therefore the same throughout the country and avoids double standards in healthcare. Insurers are required to offer this basic insurance to everyone, regardless of age or medical condition. They are not allowed to make a profit off this basic insurance, but can on supplemental plans.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland I pay for my Medical Care! And I paid for my Pension! Yep,the Insurers are allowed to make Profit,contrary what you read! i live here,and have my Medical Insurance here! Quite a difference from that ungodly mess Obama and the Democrat are trying to foist on you! It seems you enjoy a government health care plan and many other "socialised" benefits in switzerland. Why are you so hard on the folks who only wish to have the same benefits you yourself enjoy?

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 04/08/12 06:12 AM
It seems to me that there are some people that cannot stand the prospect of America becoming a peaceful nation. It also looks like some people are really scared that the richest among us might be taxed. And the biggest worry of all is that there are people who do not want universal healthcare for everybody. All that would make sense if those people were part of the 1% but my guess is that they are just like me.....an ordinary guy There is nothing as weird as folk maybe you need to delve into that Mess authored by Obama's Boys some! Yep,as usual,let the US rake the Chestnuts out the Fire for the world,then blame her for it! Guess the EU will step up to the plate,instead of the French and Germans selling Weapons to every Two-Bit Wannabe like Saddam and the Mad Colonel! why don't you,for once say what you really mean,instead of Dancing? Come to america mr conrad and live here and see how it is. Do you not enjoy a government pension and medical care in Switzerland? A google fact check. Swiss are required to purchase basic health insurance, which covers a range of treatments detailed in the Federal Act. It is therefore the same throughout the country and avoids double standards in healthcare. Insurers are required to offer this basic insurance to everyone, regardless of age or medical condition. They are not allowed to make a profit off this basic insurance, but can on supplemental plans.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland I pay for my Medical Care! And I paid for my Pension! Yep,the Insurers are allowed to make Profit,contrary what you read! i live here,and have my Medical Insurance here! Quite a difference from that ungodly mess Obama and the Democrat are trying to foist on you! It seems you enjoy a government health care plan and many other "socialised" benefits in switzerland. Why are you so hard on the folks who only wish to have the same benefits you yourself enjoy? there is no Government Healthcare Plan here! We have only Private Insurers! Get that through your Head! There is no such Abomination as Obama-Care here! If the Originators of Obama-care had any sense,they'd studied our System closer! But it seems they wouldn't understand it any better than you do!

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sun 04/08/12 06:14 AM
It seems to me that there are some people that cannot stand the prospect of America becoming a peaceful nation. It also looks like some people are really scared that the richest among us might be taxed. And the biggest worry of all is that there are people who do not want universal healthcare for everybody. All that would make sense if those people were part of the 1% but my guess is that they are just like me.....an ordinary guy There is nothing as weird as folk maybe you need to delve into that Mess authored by Obama's Boys some! Yep,as usual,let the US rake the Chestnuts out the Fire for the world,then blame her for it! Guess the EU will step up to the plate,instead of the French and Germans selling Weapons to every Two-Bit Wannabe like Saddam and the Mad Colonel! why don't you,for once say what you really mean,instead of Dancing? Come to america mr conrad and live here and see how it is. Do you not enjoy a government pension and medical care in Switzerland? A google fact check. Swiss are required to purchase basic health insurance, which covers a range of treatments detailed in the Federal Act. It is therefore the same throughout the country and avoids double standards in healthcare. Insurers are required to offer this basic insurance to everyone, regardless of age or medical condition. They are not allowed to make a profit off this basic insurance, but can on supplemental plans.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland I pay for my Medical Care! And I paid for my Pension! Yep,the Insurers are allowed to make Profit,contrary what you read! i live here,and have my Medical Insurance here! Quite a difference from that ungodly mess Obama and the Democrat are trying to foist on you! It seems you enjoy a government health care plan and many other "socialised" benefits in switzerland. Why are you so hard on the folks who only wish to have the same benefits you yourself enjoy? there is no Government Healthcare Plan here! We have only Private Insurers! Get that through your Head! There is no such Abomination as Obama-Care here! If the Originators of Obama-care had any sense,they'd studied our System closer! But it seems they wouldn't understand it any better than you do! It seems to be well regulated by the government. Why dont you get the government off your backs like we do in umerika

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 04/08/12 06:24 AM
It seems to me that there are some people that cannot stand the prospect of America becoming a peaceful nation. It also looks like some people are really scared that the richest among us might be taxed. And the biggest worry of all is that there are people who do not want universal healthcare for everybody. All that would make sense if those people were part of the 1% but my guess is that they are just like me.....an ordinary guy There is nothing as weird as folk maybe you need to delve into that Mess authored by Obama's Boys some! Yep,as usual,let the US rake the Chestnuts out the Fire for the world,then blame her for it! Guess the EU will step up to the plate,instead of the French and Germans selling Weapons to every Two-Bit Wannabe like Saddam and the Mad Colonel! why don't you,for once say what you really mean,instead of Dancing? Come to america mr conrad and live here and see how it is. Do you not enjoy a government pension and medical care in Switzerland? A google fact check. Swiss are required to purchase basic health insurance, which covers a range of treatments detailed in the Federal Act. It is therefore the same throughout the country and avoids double standards in healthcare. Insurers are required to offer this basic insurance to everyone, regardless of age or medical condition. They are not allowed to make a profit off this basic insurance, but can on supplemental plans.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland I pay for my Medical Care! And I paid for my Pension! Yep,the Insurers are allowed to make Profit,contrary what you read! i live here,and have my Medical Insurance here! Quite a difference from that ungodly mess Obama and the Democrat are trying to foist on you! It seems you enjoy a government health care plan and many other "socialised" benefits in switzerland. Why are you so hard on the folks who only wish to have the same benefits you yourself enjoy? there is no Government Healthcare Plan here! We have only Private Insurers! Get that through your Head! There is no such Abomination as Obama-Care here! If the Originators of Obama-care had any sense,they'd studied our System closer! But it seems they wouldn't understand it any better than you do! It seems to be well regulated by the government. Why dont you get the government off your backs like we do in umerika It is off our backs! We,the Voters decide what's going on! By going to the Voting-Boot a bit more often than you all do! It's called Direct Democracy! Another term I doubt you are familiar with! In other words,Government has to ask us,not us having to ask the Government! Even about Taxes! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Switzerland

JERMANICUS Joined Sat 01/28/12 Posts: 597	Sun 04/08/12 06:35 AM
Switzerland has the oldest Democracy in the world. I would like everyone to have healthcare except me. I will not buy healthcare even if the supreme court rules for it. I will openly defy it. I will not buy it or pay the fines and when they put me in Prison then they will pay for my healthcare. It's sad that I might be turned into a criminal when I have done nothing wrong.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sun 04/08/12 06:50 AM
It seems to me that there are some people that cannot stand the prospect of America becoming a peaceful nation. It also looks like some people are really scared that the richest among us might be taxed. And the biggest worry of all is that there are people who do not want universal healthcare for everybody. All that would make sense if those people were part of the 1% but my guess is that they are just like me.....an ordinary guy There is nothing as weird as folk maybe you need to delve into that Mess authored by Obama's Boys some! Yep,as usual,let the US rake the Chestnuts out the Fire for the world,then blame her for it! Guess the EU will step up to the plate,instead of the French and Germans selling Weapons to every Two-Bit Wannabe like Saddam and the Mad Colonel! why don't you,for once say what you really mean,instead of Dancing? Come to america mr conrad and live here and see how it is. Do you not enjoy a government pension and medical care in Switzerland? A google fact check. Swiss are required to purchase basic health insurance, which covers a range of treatments detailed in the Federal Act. It is therefore the same throughout the country and avoids double standards in healthcare. Insurers are required to offer this basic insurance to everyone, regardless of age or medical condition. They are not allowed to make a profit off this basic insurance, but can on supplemental plans.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland I pay for my Medical Care! And I paid for my Pension! Yep,the Insurers are allowed to make Profit,contrary what you read! i live here,and have my Medical Insurance here! Quite a difference from that ungodly mess Obama and the Democrat are trying to foist on you! It seems you enjoy a government health care plan and many other "socialised" benefits in switzerland. Why are you so hard on the folks who only wish to have the same benefits you yourself enjoy? there is no Government Healthcare Plan here! We have only Private Insurers! Get that through your Head! There is no such Abomination as Obama-Care here! If the Originators of Obama-care had any sense,they'd studied our System closer! But it seems they wouldn't understand it any better than you do! It seems to be well regulated by the government. Why dont you get the government off your backs like we do in umerika It is off our backs! We,the Voters decide what's going on! By going to the Voting-Boot a bit more often than you all do! It's called Direct Democracy! Another term I doubt you are familiar with! In other words,Government has to ask us,not us having to ask the Government! Even about Taxes! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Switzerland I suppose one has to wonder then why you are allways on the side of the right wingers on here when you yourself should be arguing the exact opposit. How about it Mr Conrad is it too much to ask that you preach what you actualy practise?