Topic: Women be cautious...
msharmony's photo
Fri 04/06/12 11:30 PM
I really think women could change the world if we respected ourselves more and raised the bar for men. IT starts with children and too many are not being very cautious when it comes to who they lie down with (And potentially bring life into the world with).


We have to be careful, not just to protect our own hearts, but to be vigilante in not contributing to a culture that is harmful for children and doing what we can to contribute instead to making the most advantageous environment for children instead.


Fatherless children have it rough, and it starts with us women who decide to lay down with the type of men that are not going to really be a father,,,,,


just something to think about,,,

"Young men who grow up in homes without fathers are twice as likely to end up in jail as those who come from traditional two-parent families


63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Bureau of the Census


85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes (United States Center for Disease Control)

71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes (National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools.)

70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Special Report, Sept 1988


Boys who grow up in father-absent homes are more likely that those in father-present homes to have trouble establishing appropriate sex roles and gender identity.(P.L. Adams, J.R. Milner, and N.A. Schrepf, Fatherless Children, New York, Wiley Press, 1984).

Children from low-income, two-parent families outperform students from high-income, single-parent homes. Almost twice as many high achievers come from two-parent homes as one-parent homes. (One-Parent Families and Their Children, Charles F. Kettering Foundation, 1990).


Only 13 percent of juvenile delinquents come from families in which the biological mother and father are married to each other. By contract, 33 percent have parents who are either divorced or separated and 44 percent have parents who were never married. (Wisconsin Dept. of Health and Social Services, April 1994).


The likelihood that a young male will engage in criminal activity doubles if he is raised without a father and triples if he lives in a neighborhood with a high concentration of single-parent families. Source: A. Anne Hill, June O'Neill, Underclass Behaviors in the United States, CUNY, Baruch College. 1993




msharmony's photo
Fri 04/06/12 11:31 PM
PS. IF the shoe doesnt fit, you will hopefully not feel offended,,,,

Down2earthdebbie's photo
Fri 04/06/12 11:40 PM
Well I Do have something to say about this...... I had a baby at the age of 19 It was my forst love my first real Boyfriend......we were suppose to get Married I laft him......Then 7 yrs later I had another baby girl.Her father and I were endaged, but he was no good & cheated on me so I kicked him out! I have raise 2 grown girls ages 22 & 28 both graduated high school & went to work. My oldest is Married & lives in Texas......No grand kids yet..... I y=know that my girls saw and relized how hard I worked 2 jobs to support them ALONE. My oldest has a College degree & is continuing her edu she will soon be in the Medical field. It was not easy,but it made me appreciate life & everything so much....Now I am continuing my Education it's all about ME noW :thumbsup: :wink:

msharmony's photo
Fri 04/06/12 11:54 PM
totally, nothing is guaranteed

I Was married before having either of my children but I still ended up a single parent of the latter,,,,the oldest child has always had his dad in his life (I made one good decision where that is concerned, he is a great dad)


I would never intentionally bring a child INTO the situation we find ourself in now

but there is still time for me to have a special partner in my life to give her that example of a healthy relationship and a strong foundation,,,,

its cool that things are working out for you, sounds like you earned it,,,,

Down2earthdebbie's photo
Sat 04/07/12 12:11 AM

totally, nothing is guaranteed

I Was married before having either of my children but I still ended up a single parent of the latter,,,,the oldest child has always had his dad in his life (I made one good decision where that is concerned, he is a great dad)


I would never intentionally bring a child INTO the situation we find ourself in now

but there is still time for me to have a special partner in my life to give her that example of a healthy relationship and a strong foundation,,,,

its cool that things are working out for you, sounds like you earned it,,,,
I gave up ALL of ME & whatever LIFE offered. Worked one job went straight to another......I am soproud that my girls did Not make that mistake! But it was so worth it! I never controlled when they went to see their dad...That is always important to let them make their own decissions! :thumbsup:

bwaleykas's photo
Sat 04/07/12 12:36 AM
In some ways u are right and in some ways too it depends on how the single parent (woman) conducts herself in bringing the children up. I know a lot of people who were taking care of by only their moms and have made it big in life. If u make ur kids understand the basic principle of life which is LOVE it doesn't matter if their dads cater for them or not cos the irresponsible men will continue to be in this world just like other irresponsible women. Let us be patient with how we deal with our partners so that we don't keep breaking up relationships.

bwaleykas's photo
Sat 04/07/12 12:36 AM
In some ways u are right and in some ways too it depends on how the single parent (woman) conducts herself in bringing the children up. I know a lot of people who were taking care of by only their moms and have made it big in life. If u make ur kids understand the basic principle of life which is LOVE it doesn't matter if their dads cater for them or not cos the irresponsible men will continue to be in this world just like other irresponsible women. Let us be patient with how we deal with our partners so that we don't keep breaking up relationships.

Down2earthdebbie's photo
Sat 04/07/12 12:56 AM
Yup that's right! :wink: :thumbsup:

oldhippie1952's photo
Sat 04/07/12 01:12 PM
If children turn out right it is because the parent (s) did something right raising them.

I raised a boy and girl by myself, and I am of course, very proud of how they behave as adults. So I did something right.

But the statistics in the OP are correct. So we single parents can thank our lucky stars.

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Sun 04/08/12 09:37 AM
Edited by WholesomeWoman on Sun 04/08/12 09:41 AM

If children turn out right it is because the parent (s) did something right raising them.

I raised a boy and girl by myself, and I am of course, very proud of how they behave as adults. So I did something right.

But the statistics in the OP are correct. So we single parents can thank our lucky stars.


I would like to add that not only the parent(s) influence the way a child behaves as an adult but the child as a teenager makes decisions in the shaping of their life. The other influence is the whole "community" surrounding or outside of a parent(s) home in the upbringing of a child. The community consisting of their school - teachers, medical people, church, role maodels, extracurricular activities instructors .... A child is affected by their whole community which is termed cocooning, and the community cocoons a child, their development years of growth along with the parent(s).

I remember this concept of cocooning, the subject through a volunteer position as a "Key Communicator" with our local school board when my daughter was a child. It was a subject at one of the meetings, an agenda topic in child development, the contributing factors, influences of a child's development.

Also, having raising a university educated daughter who is married with two children I recall a conversation between her and I when she was an adult. She thanked me for who she turned out to be in life but also added that she was partially responsible for the way she turned out too, I agreed. I thought about this just now, the child even under the best of upbringing can be a rebel, or swayed by peer pressure, a stroke of misfortune or bad luck that may result in a turn in who they become. So yes there may be a component of luck added as well in the formula of raising children and who they will become.

wux's photo
Sun 04/08/12 07:17 PM
Edited by wux on Sun 04/08/12 07:22 PM
((Sorry... pressed the wrong button or clicked on the wrong command button. This is not a real post, please everybody disregard this post of mine.))

wux's photo
Sun 04/08/12 07:20 PM
Edited by wux on Sun 04/08/12 07:23 PM

I really think women could change the world if we respected ourselves more and raised the bar for men. IT starts with children and too many are not being very cautious when it comes to who they lie down with (And potentially bring life into the world with).


We have to be careful, not just to protect our own hearts, but to be vigilante in not contributing to a culture that is harmful for children and doing what we can to contribute instead to making the most advantageous environment for children instead.


Fatherless children have it rough, and it starts with us women who decide to lay down with the type of men that are not going to really be a father,,,,,


just something to think about,,,

"Young men who grow up in homes without fathers are twice as likely to end up in jail as those who come from traditional two-parent families


63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Bureau of the Census


85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes (United States Center for Disease Control)

71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes (National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools.)

70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Special Report, Sept 1988


Boys who grow up in father-absent homes are more likely that those in father-present homes to have trouble establishing appropriate sex roles and gender identity.(P.L. Adams, J.R. Milner, and N.A. Schrepf, Fatherless Children, New York, Wiley Press, 1984).

Children from low-income, two-parent families outperform students from high-income, single-parent homes. Almost twice as many high achievers come from two-parent homes as one-parent homes. (One-Parent Families and Their Children, Charles F. Kettering Foundation, 1990).


Only 13 percent of juvenile delinquents come from families in which the biological mother and father are married to each other. By contract, 33 percent have parents who are either divorced or separated and 44 percent have parents who were never married. (Wisconsin Dept. of Health and Social Services, April 1994).


The likelihood that a young male will engage in criminal activity doubles if he is raised without a father and triples if he lives in a neighborhood with a high concentration of single-parent families. Source: A. Anne Hill, June O'Neill, Underclass Behaviors in the United States, CUNY, Baruch College. 1993






I think you just made a beautiful statement, an eloquent and hart-rending call for mandatory abortions for all unmarried pregnant women.

I applaud you for your free-thinking effort, because your better personal morals superceeded the religious and oppressive dogma of all religions which forbid abortion.

Well done, MsHarmony.

Bravo!!! Kudos to you for your bravado.

msharmony's photo
Mon 04/09/12 12:41 AM


I really think women could change the world if we respected ourselves more and raised the bar for men. IT starts with children and too many are not being very cautious when it comes to who they lie down with (And potentially bring life into the world with).


We have to be careful, not just to protect our own hearts, but to be vigilante in not contributing to a culture that is harmful for children and doing what we can to contribute instead to making the most advantageous environment for children instead.


Fatherless children have it rough, and it starts with us women who decide to lay down with the type of men that are not going to really be a father,,,,,


just something to think about,,,

"Young men who grow up in homes without fathers are twice as likely to end up in jail as those who come from traditional two-parent families


63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Bureau of the Census


85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes (United States Center for Disease Control)

71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes (National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools.)

70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Special Report, Sept 1988


Boys who grow up in father-absent homes are more likely that those in father-present homes to have trouble establishing appropriate sex roles and gender identity.(P.L. Adams, J.R. Milner, and N.A. Schrepf, Fatherless Children, New York, Wiley Press, 1984).

Children from low-income, two-parent families outperform students from high-income, single-parent homes. Almost twice as many high achievers come from two-parent homes as one-parent homes. (One-Parent Families and Their Children, Charles F. Kettering Foundation, 1990).


Only 13 percent of juvenile delinquents come from families in which the biological mother and father are married to each other. By contract, 33 percent have parents who are either divorced or separated and 44 percent have parents who were never married. (Wisconsin Dept. of Health and Social Services, April 1994).


The likelihood that a young male will engage in criminal activity doubles if he is raised without a father and triples if he lives in a neighborhood with a high concentration of single-parent families. Source: A. Anne Hill, June O'Neill, Underclass Behaviors in the United States, CUNY, Baruch College. 1993






I think you just made a beautiful statement, an eloquent and hart-rending call for mandatory abortions for all unmarried pregnant women.

I applaud you for your free-thinking effort, because your better personal morals superceeded the religious and oppressive dogma of all religions which forbid abortion.

Well done, MsHarmony.

Bravo!!! Kudos to you for your bravado.



lol, you know better wux

there is actually another alternative to abortions

wait for it,,,

ABSTINENCE (oh, god no, thats like asking folks to walk on water these days,,,)

or,, the slightly easier option of RESPONSIBLE protection,,,,,

(as opposed to BC that isnt taken properly, or condoms that arent place properly or have holes and such,,,,etc,,,)


yeah, I know, thats a mood killer for that healthy human urge to just get it when you want it and how you want it,,,,,

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Sun 05/06/12 12:24 PM
Great post, MsHarmony :) I must point out that even though I'm thirty, I remain vigilant when it comes to peer pressure, or my surroundings. Even if there ARE bad examples of role models around me, I tend to stay away from those types. I just don't want to witness my own life going down the drain. I want to be proud of myself. Not that I'm not proud enough as it is. I could never do drugs/alcohol/prostitution, etc. As memories stay with you forever. I get a lot of my neighbours and such telling me "I have my head screwed on". Well, i normally thank them for that kind of statement. lol. I just don't wanna end up a mess like Rihanna or any other bad influence. :thumbsup: :)

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Sun 05/06/12 01:45 PM
This is a wonderful topic MSH. Its really unfortunate to have lots of young unwed teens with kids. My heart really bleds because it now seems like a norm amongst this present generation. Any penis can make a child but it takes a real man to be a father.