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Topic: Obama's comments
msharmony's photo
Wed 04/04/12 07:34 AM






A federal appeals court fired back today "You think we can't overturn laws?"

This guy if given the chance would become a dictator.



I think that was EXACTLY the sentiment OBAma was making regarding judges

"I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected congress"


the supreme court doesn't care whether or not elected officials voted for this, but whether it is constitutional! Forcing people to buy health insurance is a crock.



forcing them to pay for service entitlements is not...how do you think we pay for the raods, even though not EVERYONE drives on them?

:wink:

this was just a way to TRY to support a 'free market' option,, as opposed to adding a healthcare tax on everyone,,,


The roads get paid for when you register your car. The majority of that money goes to the local schools and the roads!



source?

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/04/12 07:34 AM










A federal appeals court fired back today "You think we can't overturn laws?"

This guy if given the chance would become a dictator.



I think that was EXACTLY the sentiment OBAma was making regarding judges

"I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected congress"


the supreme court doesn't care whether or not elected officials voted for this, but whether it is constitutional! Forcing people to buy health insurance is a crock.



forcing them to pay for service entitlements is not...how do you think we pay for the raods, even though not EVERYONE drives on them?

:wink:

this was just a way to TRY to support a 'free market' option,, as opposed to adding a healthcare tax on everyone,,,


People ride bikes and buses! What they should have done was prevent insurance companies from refusing you for pre-existing conditions and limiting amount of the monthly premiums (capping them).



not everyone rides a bike or uses transit,, some stick to sidewalks and walking

the caps and pre existing was in the bill too...


Not enough people don't use the roads to matter so your point is moot. If these are in the law then we don't need it to be mandatory. Explain to me why I should pay for someone who is not a friend or relative?


this is the same argument they try to use against taxes from single people going towards paying for schools,,,

its called an investment in COMMUNITY so you have the OPTION to use it without worry


It is hard to believe that a constitutional lawyer didn't know that a federal court has the power to strike down any law they deem unconstitutional..

He must have been out community organizing when they taught that at Harvard Law.








who says he doesnt know

saying they shouldnt is not the same as saying they cant

InvictusV's photo
Wed 04/04/12 07:40 AM











A federal appeals court fired back today "You think we can't overturn laws?"

This guy if given the chance would become a dictator.



I think that was EXACTLY the sentiment OBAma was making regarding judges

"I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected congress"


the supreme court doesn't care whether or not elected officials voted for this, but whether it is constitutional! Forcing people to buy health insurance is a crock.



forcing them to pay for service entitlements is not...how do you think we pay for the raods, even though not EVERYONE drives on them?

:wink:

this was just a way to TRY to support a 'free market' option,, as opposed to adding a healthcare tax on everyone,,,


People ride bikes and buses! What they should have done was prevent insurance companies from refusing you for pre-existing conditions and limiting amount of the monthly premiums (capping them).



not everyone rides a bike or uses transit,, some stick to sidewalks and walking

the caps and pre existing was in the bill too...


Not enough people don't use the roads to matter so your point is moot. If these are in the law then we don't need it to be mandatory. Explain to me why I should pay for someone who is not a friend or relative?


this is the same argument they try to use against taxes from single people going towards paying for schools,,,

its called an investment in COMMUNITY so you have the OPTION to use it without worry


It is hard to believe that a constitutional lawyer didn't know that a federal court has the power to strike down any law they deem unconstitutional..

He must have been out community organizing when they taught that at Harvard Law.








who says he doesnt know

saying they shouldnt is not the same as saying they cant


I am sure he knows and I am also sure he knew what he said was a misrepresentation of the facts.

He implied that it was some extraordinary action that a law passed by congress would be rebuked..

It is petty politics..

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/04/12 07:54 AM












A federal appeals court fired back today "You think we can't overturn laws?"

This guy if given the chance would become a dictator.



I think that was EXACTLY the sentiment OBAma was making regarding judges

"I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected congress"


the supreme court doesn't care whether or not elected officials voted for this, but whether it is constitutional! Forcing people to buy health insurance is a crock.



forcing them to pay for service entitlements is not...how do you think we pay for the raods, even though not EVERYONE drives on them?

:wink:

this was just a way to TRY to support a 'free market' option,, as opposed to adding a healthcare tax on everyone,,,


People ride bikes and buses! What they should have done was prevent insurance companies from refusing you for pre-existing conditions and limiting amount of the monthly premiums (capping them).



not everyone rides a bike or uses transit,, some stick to sidewalks and walking

the caps and pre existing was in the bill too...


Not enough people don't use the roads to matter so your point is moot. If these are in the law then we don't need it to be mandatory. Explain to me why I should pay for someone who is not a friend or relative?


this is the same argument they try to use against taxes from single people going towards paying for schools,,,

its called an investment in COMMUNITY so you have the OPTION to use it without worry


It is hard to believe that a constitutional lawyer didn't know that a federal court has the power to strike down any law they deem unconstitutional..

He must have been out community organizing when they taught that at Harvard Law.








who says he doesnt know

saying they shouldnt is not the same as saying they cant


I am sure he knows and I am also sure he knew what he said was a misrepresentation of the facts.

He implied that it was some extraordinary action that a law passed by congress would be rebuked..

It is petty politics..


its a common go to whenever the courts question a law,,

TJN's photo
Wed 04/04/12 08:29 AM













A federal appeals court fired back today "You think we can't overturn laws?"

This guy if given the chance would become a dictator.



I think that was EXACTLY the sentiment OBAma was making regarding judges

"I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected congress"


the supreme court doesn't care whether or not elected officials voted for this, but whether it is constitutional! Forcing people to buy health insurance is a crock.



forcing them to pay for service entitlements is not...how do you think we pay for the raods, even though not EVERYONE drives on them?

:wink:

this was just a way to TRY to support a 'free market' option,, as opposed to adding a healthcare tax on everyone,,,


People ride bikes and buses! What they should have done was prevent insurance companies from refusing you for pre-existing conditions and limiting amount of the monthly premiums (capping them).



not everyone rides a bike or uses transit,, some stick to sidewalks and walking

the caps and pre existing was in the bill too...


Not enough people don't use the roads to matter so your point is moot. If these are in the law then we don't need it to be mandatory. Explain to me why I should pay for someone who is not a friend or relative?


this is the same argument they try to use against taxes from single people going towards paying for schools,,,

its called an investment in COMMUNITY so you have the OPTION to use it without worry


It is hard to believe that a constitutional lawyer didn't know that a federal court has the power to strike down any law they deem unconstitutional..

He must have been out community organizing when they taught that at Harvard Law.








who says he doesnt know

saying they shouldnt is not the same as saying they cant


I am sure he knows and I am also sure he knew what he said was a misrepresentation of the facts.

He implied that it was some extraordinary action that a law passed by congress would be rebuked..

It is petty politics..


its a common go to whenever the courts question a law,,

THE COURTS DON'T QUESTION THE LAW!!
Laws are brought before them and they rule if the law is constitutional or not.
LEGISLATIVE branch writes bills.
EXECUTIVE branch signs bills into law.
JUDICIAL branch determines constitutionality of laws.

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 04/04/12 10:57 AM



A federal appeals court fired back today "You think we can't overturn laws?"

This guy if given the chance would become a dictator.



I think that was EXACTLY the sentiment OBAma was making regarding judges

"I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected congress"

One short paragraph...

Yet it is the biggest lie in the speach.

Strong majority would have been 2/3rds or better. Instead the Law was passed by diverting the vote into a budgetary rule so that it could be passed by a simply majority... Else it WOULD NOT HAVE PASSED...

Strong arm passage does not equate to a 'strong majority', in point of fact, the law should not even be considered passed as it had absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH BUDGETS and was therfore passed by subterfuge and arm twisting.

no photo
Wed 04/04/12 11:36 AM
In simple words, bye, bye Obama.:banana:
rofl

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/04/12 12:44 PM
time will tell,,,,


boredinaz06's photo
Wed 04/04/12 12:56 PM
Attorney General Eric Holder, in response to a court order to explain whether the administration thinks judges can overturn federal laws following Obama's warning to the Supreme Court over the health law case, says: 'We respect the decisions made by the courts since Marbury v. Madison... Courts have final say.'

TJN's photo
Wed 04/04/12 02:27 PM

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/04/12 05:30 PM

Attorney General Eric Holder, in response to a court order to explain whether the administration thinks judges can overturn federal laws following Obama's warning to the Supreme Court over the health law case, says: 'We respect the decisions made by the courts since Marbury v. Madison... Courts have final say.'


a court order to explain whether the administration thinks?

can an administration think? or is that something INDIVIDUALS do?

since when are their court orders that can demand a person share their thoughts?

willing2's photo
Wed 04/04/12 06:34 PM
States and the feds will be able to raise premium costs at their whims.

I just got notice my auto insurance is going up just cuz the state tax commissioner wants a raise in pay.slaphead

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/04/12 06:35 PM
its the internet age,, shop on line for the best rates,,,

willing2's photo
Wed 04/04/12 06:42 PM
I had the best rate for basic liability.

Just like forced oBlowmecare, they will raise it whenever they want to scratch an itch.

no photo
Wed 04/04/12 07:32 PM
In a way it's kind of sad to see a man with so little substance and so few ideas grasping for anything that he hopes and will change his inevitable end. Fair well Obama! Go and join Jimmy Carter as the worst presidents in American History. May we learn from the failure of these two loosers.

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