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A pair of audio experts who analyzed a 911 call made during the Feb. 26 killing of Trayvon Martin told the Orlando Sentinel on Monday that they don't believe the screams heard on the recording are those of neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman.
"There's a huge chance that this is not Zimmerman's voice," Ed Primeau, an audio engineer who is listed as an expert in recorded evidence by the American College of Forensic Examiners International, told the paper. "As a matter of fact, after 28 years of doing this, I would put my reputation on the line and say this is not George Zimmerman screaming." The other—Tom Owen, chairman emeritus of the American Board of Recorded Evidence—also told the Sentinel he does not believe the screams came from Zimmerman. Owen used Easy Voice Biometrics software to compare Zimmerman's voice to the 911 call screams, and it was a 48 percent match—well short of the 90 percent needed for a positive match, he said. On CNN, Primeau said he's 95 percent sure the screams heard on the tape are not Zimmerman's. [ Hear audio of the 911 call. ] Both experts, though, cautioned that they cannot identify who was screaming with absolute certainty, in part, because they have no audio samples from Martin. ("I believe that's Trayvon Martin in the background, without a doubt," Primeau said. "That's a young man screaming.) Zimmerman claims he shot the unarmed 17-year-old after a violent confrontation, and that he was screaming for help after Martin punched him in the face, knocked him to the ground and slammed his head into the concrete. A recording of Zimmerman screaming would bolster the 28-year-old's self-defense case. A surveillance video released last week by ABC News shows Zimmerman being led into a police precinct for questioning the night of the shooting. On the video, Zimmerman does not appear to have serious injuries. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/trayvon-martin-911-call-audio-experts-not-george-160558328.html |
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Lets hope it goes to court so the facts can be revealed. I know how easy it is to edit pictures and make claims and people have been doing it all over the media and news sources have been reporting it ,,,but the FACTS will be scrutinized more closely in a court,,,,
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Lets hope it goes to court so the facts can be revealed. I know how easy it is to edit pictures and make claims and people have been doing it all over the media and news sources have been reporting it ,,,but the FACTS will be scrutinized more closely in a court,,,, doesn't look like it's going to court...they seem to want to paint pictures on both sides of this... the media is the ones that should be in court on this... |
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Lets hope it goes to court so the facts can be revealed. I know how easy it is to edit pictures and make claims and people have been doing it all over the media and news sources have been reporting it ,,,but the FACTS will be scrutinized more closely in a court,,,, doesn't look like it's going to court...they seem to want to paint pictures on both sides of this... the media is the ones that should be in court on this... pressure does alot, I think it will go to court Casey anthony was tried without a cause of death Rodney was tried in spite of police claims that they were in the right MJ was tried on just allegations,,,,, Im thinking it will go to trial,,, |
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Who has a rope? We have all the evidence we need to lynch him!
(Oh, not to deflate your hopes, but the HD video clearly shows two wounds on the back of Zimmerman's head. wah wah wahhhhhhh) |
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msharmony
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Mon 04/02/12 03:25 PM
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Who has a rope? We have all the evidence we need to lynch him! (Oh, not to deflate your hopes, but the HD video clearly shows two wounds on the back of Zimmerman's head. wah wah wahhhhhhh) Im not sure whats on the back of his head. The facts will be clearer in a courtroom. If he was wearing that jacket, seems like blood would be on it from such a head wound,,,but who knows..I didnt notice stains on the front of his shirt(which I would expect if shooting someone who was on top of you) I also notice nothing like stains on the back of his jacket,,,Im sure they would clean wounds, but do they do dry cleaning too.... and this was LESS THAN AN HOUR after police arrived at the incident and if there is evidence of injury, is that proof he was defending himself from a kid beating on him, or a kid was defending himself from being shot by an adult? who knows,,, let the FACTS be disclosed in court,,, |
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yet another take on the Case!
http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/misconceptions-in-the-trayvon-martin-case |
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I love the repeated claim that zimmerman didnt chase him or confront him,,,,
this is particularly an amazing statement "He drove after them for a few minutes and the person ran away. At this point, it makes perfect logical sense for Zimmerman to exit the vehicle to see where the suspicious person went, because he had just called them in to the police. Otherwise, the police would get there and Zimmerman would have no idea what direction to point them in. " ...yeah, IM a kid walking in the rain at night with some man deving after me for a 'few minutes' I run away and that person has every right to follow me just to 'maintain eye contact' (yeah, that would be my thought ,,,,,) and aFTER I run away, he continues to try to 'maintain' contact and even though this person has a history of CONFRONTATION,, we are going to insist it was not likely he could have confronted that kid that night,,,, uhhuh,,, I Buy it,,,,, ..let the court decide... |
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Msharmony,
Our justice system only puts people on trial, if there is enough evidence to possibly get a conviction. Will you be satisfied if the Grand Jury finds no grounds for prosecution or do you feel that Zimmerman has to go to trial no matter what? |
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Msharmony, Our justice system only puts people on trial, if there is enough evidence to possibly get a conviction. Will you be satisfied if the Grand Jury finds no grounds for prosecution or do you feel that Zimmerman has to go to trial no matter what? I think the case needs to go to trial, given the 'victims' record of confrontation and his 'admitted' actions that night which would give the child every right to DEFEND himself the way he did and the man no longer a right to merely claim defense,,, |
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Msharmony, Our justice system only puts people on trial, if there is enough evidence to possibly get a conviction. Will you be satisfied if the Grand Jury finds no grounds for prosecution or do you feel that Zimmerman has to go to trial no matter what? I think the case needs to go to trial, given the 'victims' record of confrontation and his 'admitted' actions that night which would give the child every right to DEFEND himself the way he did and the man no longer a right to merely claim defense,,, So it has to go to trial, even if the Grand Jury thinks no crime was committed? So you admit that this isn't about justice, it's just about anger and feeding the mob mentality. It's disgusting. |
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Msharmony, Our justice system only puts people on trial, if there is enough evidence to possibly get a conviction. Will you be satisfied if the Grand Jury finds no grounds for prosecution or do you feel that Zimmerman has to go to trial no matter what? I think the case needs to go to trial, given the 'victims' record of confrontation and his 'admitted' actions that night which would give the child every right to DEFEND himself the way he did and the man no longer a right to merely claim defense,,, So it has to go to trial, even if the Grand Jury thinks no crime was committed? So you admit that this isn't about justice, it's just about anger and feeding the mob mentality. It's disgusting. I will have to accept what the grand jury decides, I wont be 'satisfied' if no trial occurs though. no. I Think the boy deserves an attempt at justice, not just a he said/she said defense from his accuser/killer,,, |
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I will have to accept what the grand jury decides, I wont be 'satisfied' if no trial occurs though. no. I Think the boy deserves an attempt at justice, not just a he said/she said defense from his accuser/killer,,, There is no defense involved in the Grand Jury, just the prosecutor. If a one sided argument for the prosecution of Zimmerman can't convince the Grand Jury, he goes free. That's how our justice system works. I think it's obvious that Zimmerman won't be safe until he is prosecuted and probably he needs to be convicted just to put this to bed. That's how bad it is, even if he's innocent, he has to go to prison or this stupid mess will never go away. I'm just going to say it. If Zimmerman were black, nobody would give a damn about Trayvon outside of his family. It's only because Zimmerman is a "white Hispanic" that anybody is demanding "justice" (code for blood). |
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I will have to accept what the grand jury decides, I wont be 'satisfied' if no trial occurs though. no. I Think the boy deserves an attempt at justice, not just a he said/she said defense from his accuser/killer,,, There is no defense involved in the Grand Jury, just the prosecutor. If a one sided argument for the prosecution of Zimmerman can't convince the Grand Jury, he goes free. That's how our justice system works. I think it's obvious that Zimmerman won't be safe until he is prosecuted and probably he needs to be convicted just to put this to bed. That's how bad it is, even if he's innocent, he has to go to prison or this stupid mess will never go away. I'm just going to say it. If Zimmerman were black, nobody would give a damn about Trayvon outside of his family. It's only because Zimmerman is a "white Hispanic" that anybody is demanding "justice" (code for blood). I could refute that claim by replaying the 911 tapes of people who couldnt even TELL what races were involved,,, this was a social status event, people with money, tired of their stuff being taken and an overzealous watchmen wanting to save the day by making sure the '*******' that was up to 'no good', waling in the rain with a hoody didnt 'get away' and I Beg to differ, if we changed the races, and this was a white young man in a predominately black neighborhood where , lets say, graffiti had been rampant and a black man had followed him in a car, until he CHANGED Directions and RAN Away, and then that same man LEFT his car and continued to follow him and that child ended up unarmed and shot dead,,, this would be unfolding the SAME way,,,,, |
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I could refute that claim by replaying the 911 tapes of people who couldnt even TELL what races were involved,,, Refute what? this was a social status event, people with money, tired of their stuff being taken and an overzealous watchmen wanting to save the day by making sure the '*******' that was up to 'no good', waling in the rain with a hoody didnt 'get away' Right, you have Zimmerman convicted, not on the facts, but the race. Zimmerman was "white" enough to be guilty. That's all the mob mentality needs. A "white" man killed a black man, it couldn't be justified! and I Beg to differ, if we changed the races, and this was a white young man in a predominately black neighborhood where , lets say, graffiti had been rampant and a black man had followed him in a car, until he CHANGED Directions and RAN Away, and then that same man LEFT his car and continued to follow him and that child ended up unarmed and shot dead,,, this would be unfolding the SAME way,,,,, I said nothing about changing the race of Trayvon, I said if Zimmerman had been a black man, you wouldn't care. That's a fact. Nobody would. It's only because Zimmerman is a "white" man that anyone cares. The same weekend that Trayvon was killed, many innocent black children were murdered by black men and nobody blinked an eye. Another innocent black girl shot in the cross fire of a drug war, oh well! But if it had been a white guy who shot her, the crap would hit the fan. This isn't about justice, it's about race. |
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I could refute that claim by replaying the 911 tapes of people who couldnt even TELL what races were involved,,, Refute what? this was a social status event, people with money, tired of their stuff being taken and an overzealous watchmen wanting to save the day by making sure the '*******' that was up to 'no good', waling in the rain with a hoody didnt 'get away' Right, you have Zimmerman convicted, not on the facts, but the race. Zimmerman was "white" enough to be guilty. That's all the mob mentality needs. A "white" man killed a black man, it couldn't be justified! and I Beg to differ, if we changed the races, and this was a white young man in a predominately black neighborhood where , lets say, graffiti had been rampant and a black man had followed him in a car, until he CHANGED Directions and RAN Away, and then that same man LEFT his car and continued to follow him and that child ended up unarmed and shot dead,,, this would be unfolding the SAME way,,,,, I said nothing about changing the race of Trayvon, I said if Zimmerman had been a black man, you wouldn't care. That's a fact. Nobody would. It's only because Zimmerman is a "white" man that anyone cares. The same weekend that Trayvon was killed, many innocent black children were murdered by black men and nobody blinked an eye. Another innocent black girl shot in the cross fire of a drug war, oh well! But if it had been a white guy who shot her, the crap would hit the fan. This isn't about justice, it's about race. I want a TRIAL, the jurors can decide to convict if there are cases of innocent black children being murdered by black men who continued to WALK FREE and uncharged,, Id love to hear about it,,,, the issue is deeper than crime, its letting the potential killer WALK FREE although, judicially, its wise not to act IMMEDIATELY, so that they can build the case they need because they only have so long to charge him after an arrest is officially made |
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I could refute that claim by replaying the 911 tapes of people who couldnt even TELL what races were involved,,, Refute what? this was a social status event, people with money, tired of their stuff being taken and an overzealous watchmen wanting to save the day by making sure the '*******' that was up to 'no good', waling in the rain with a hoody didnt 'get away' Right, you have Zimmerman convicted, not on the facts, but the race. Zimmerman was "white" enough to be guilty. That's all the mob mentality needs. A "white" man killed a black man, it couldn't be justified! and I Beg to differ, if we changed the races, and this was a white young man in a predominately black neighborhood where , lets say, graffiti had been rampant and a black man had followed him in a car, until he CHANGED Directions and RAN Away, and then that same man LEFT his car and continued to follow him and that child ended up unarmed and shot dead,,, this would be unfolding the SAME way,,,,, I said nothing about changing the race of Trayvon, I said if Zimmerman had been a black man, you wouldn't care. That's a fact. Nobody would. It's only because Zimmerman is a "white" man that anyone cares. The same weekend that Trayvon was killed, many innocent black children were murdered by black men and nobody blinked an eye. Another innocent black girl shot in the cross fire of a drug war, oh well! But if it had been a white guy who shot her, the crap would hit the fan. This isn't about justice, it's about race. I want a TRIAL, the jurors can decide to convict if there are cases of innocent black children being murdered by black men who continued to WALK FREE and uncharged,, Id love to hear about it,,,, the issue is deeper than crime, its letting the potential killer WALK FREE although, judicially, its wise not to act IMMEDIATELY, so that they can build the case they need because they only have so long to charge him after an arrest is officially made and if it goes to trial and he isn't convicted is that really going to change anything? Nope.. The mob will just say it's because he was white and the jurors were racist.. |
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Who has a rope? We have all the evidence we need to lynch him! (Oh, not to deflate your hopes, but the HD video clearly shows two wounds on the back of Zimmerman's head. wah wah wahhhhhhh) lynching? he killed a 17 year old kid... he should be lynched |
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Who has a rope? We have all the evidence we need to lynch him! (Oh, not to deflate your hopes, but the HD video clearly shows two wounds on the back of Zimmerman's head. wah wah wahhhhhhh) lynching? he killed a 17 year old kid... he should be lynched You are a Democrat, right? Must be, they are the party of lynching. Previously, the only proof of guilt they needed was black skin, now all they need is white. |
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Who has a rope? We have all the evidence we need to lynch him! (Oh, not to deflate your hopes, but the HD video clearly shows two wounds on the back of Zimmerman's head. wah wah wahhhhhhh) lynching? he killed a 17 year old kid... he should be lynched You are a Democrat, right? Must be, they are the party of lynching. Previously, the only proof of guilt they needed was black skin, now all they need is white. whatever, he killed a 17 year old boy and he is not in jail...forget black or white, lib or conserv, a kid is dead... and all you think about is black or white? |
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