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Topic: God and religion.
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 04/14/12 04:12 PM
If you take a prescription drug and you have faith that you see a floating monkey, that is faith. no Cowboy... that's called a drug induced event....it may explain why people saw Jesus float Again, faith is what YOU feel/believe to be true. so Faith is gambling? Faith in the abrahamic religion is gambling,Muschristews hope that they go to heaven and everything in the bible is real...in other words false hope. without Faith a burning bush is only a bush on fire ...or perhaps a joint

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sat 04/14/12 04:18 PM
If you take a prescription drug and you have faith that you see a floating monkey, that is faith. no Cowboy... that's called a drug induced event....it may explain why people saw Jesus float Again, faith is what YOU feel/believe to be true. so Faith is gambling? Faith in the abrahamic religion is gambling,Muschristews hope that they go to heaven and everything in the bible is real...in other words false hope. without Faith a burning bush is only a bush on fire ...or perhaps a joint They probably were high to come up with all the magical stories written in the gospels,but hey their God created it.They got high off of Gods supply.No wonder he was genocidal he was pissed cause everyone was smoking his stash on earth.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Mon 04/16/12 10:09 AM
I believe in god,because I'm live & as I'm aware that life wouldn't possible without him.He is the creator of whole universe & this life. I don't know whether other thinks this as rational but for sure it is non-religious. God has nothing to do with religion.Religion is our grouping which are basically originated as path to god. I've asked you to give a "rational" non-religious answer you claiming that God is the creator of the Universe is a religious belief formulated from religious scripture and based on Faith....and that's why your belief in a God is religious I'm not agreed to this,it is not necessary that everyone who believes in god is believing due to religious teaching.I don't need any religious neither any scientific proof for proving the existence of god.If you mean to say that any reason for my belief in god is rational only if I have any scientific base for it then I think you are wrong here. God is such a power which don't leave any proof for finding or tracing his existence.It's not easy to find & prove god,you have to just believe & I am doing the same.In my opinion it is a rational reason & don' have to do anything with religion.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 04/16/12 11:09 AM
I believe in god,because I'm live & as I'm aware that life wouldn't possible without him.He is the creator of whole universe & this life. I don't know whether other thinks this as rational but for sure it is non-religious. God has nothing to do with religion.Religion is our grouping which are basically originated as path to god. I've asked you to give a "rational" non-religious answer you claiming that God is the creator of the Universe is a religious belief formulated from religious scripture and based on Faith....and that's why your belief in a God is religious I'm not agreed to this,it is not necessary that everyone who believes in god is believing due to religious teaching.I don't need any religious neither any scientific proof for proving the existence of god.If you mean to say that any reason for my belief in god is rational only if I have any scientific base for it then I think you are wrong here. God is such a power which don't leave any proof for finding or tracing his existence.It's not easy to find & prove god,you have to just believe & I am doing the same.In my opinion it is a rational reason & don' have to do anything with religion. I've asked you to give a "rational non-religious" explanation for your belief in a God ....the fact that you are unable to do so...is why you're religious

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Mon 04/16/12 11:21 AM
I believe in god,because I'm live & as I'm aware that life wouldn't possible without him.He is the creator of whole universe & this life. I don't know whether other thinks this as rational but for sure it is non-religious. God has nothing to do with religion.Religion is our grouping which are basically originated as path to god. I've asked you to give a "rational" non-religious answer you claiming that God is the creator of the Universe is a religious belief formulated from religious scripture and based on Faith....and that's why your belief in a God is religious I'm not agreed to this,it is not necessary that everyone who believes in god is believing due to religious teaching.I don't need any religious neither any scientific proof for proving the existence of god.If you mean to say that any reason for my belief in god is rational only if I have any scientific base for it then I think you are wrong here. God is such a power which don't leave any proof for finding or tracing his existence.It's not easy to find & prove god,you have to just believe & I am doing the same.In my opinion it is a rational reason & don' have to do anything with religion. I've asked you to give a "rational non-religious" explanation for your belief in a God ....the fact that you are unable to do so...is why you're religious That's funny,bro. my explanation is rational & I don't count it as religious.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 04/16/12 11:35 AM
I believe in god,because I'm live & as I'm aware that life wouldn't possible without him.He is the creator of whole universe & this life. I don't know whether other thinks this as rational but for sure it is non-religious. God has nothing to do with religion.Religion is our grouping which are basically originated as path to god. I've asked you to give a "rational" non-religious answer you claiming that God is the creator of the Universe is a religious belief formulated from religious scripture and based on Faith....and that's why your belief in a God is religious I'm not agreed to this,it is not necessary that everyone who believes in god is believing due to religious teaching.I don't need any religious neither any scientific proof for proving the existence of god.If you mean to say that any reason for my belief in god is rational only if I have any scientific base for it then I think you are wrong here. God is such a power which don't leave any proof for finding or tracing his existence.It's not easy to find & prove god,you have to just believe & I am doing the same.In my opinion it is a rational reason & don' have to do anything with religion. I've asked you to give a "rational non-religious" explanation for your belief in a God ....the fact that you are unable to do so...is why you're religious That's funny,bro. my explanation is rational & I don't count it as religious. claiming that you need no scientific proof or no proof at all that God is the creator of the Universe is not rational explanation for a belief in a GOd...it's either religious or delusional...take your pick

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 04/16/12 12:11 PM
I believe in god,because I'm live & as I'm aware that life wouldn't possible without him.He is the creator of whole universe & this life. I don't know whether other thinks this as rational but for sure it is non-religious. God has nothing to do with religion.Religion is our grouping which are basically originated as path to god. I've asked you to give a "rational" non-religious answer you claiming that God is the creator of the Universe is a religious belief formulated from religious scripture and based on Faith....and that's why your belief in a God is religious I'm not agreed to this,it is not necessary that everyone who believes in god is believing due to religious teaching.I don't need any religious neither any scientific proof for proving the existence of god.If you mean to say that any reason for my belief in god is rational only if I have any scientific base for it then I think you are wrong here. God is such a power which don't leave any proof for finding or tracing his existence.It's not easy to find & prove god,you have to just believe & I am doing the same.In my opinion it is a rational reason & don' have to do anything with religion. I've asked you to give a "rational non-religious" explanation for your belief in a God ....the fact that you are unable to do so...is why you're religious That's funny,bro. my explanation is rational & I don't count it as religious. claiming that you need no scientific proof or no proof at all that God is the creator of the Universe is not rational explanation for a belief in a GOd...it's either religious or delusional...take your pick There is proof, the scriptures we possess. Holds just as much validity as any other form of evidence even down to science. You find a book that says this or that as a scientific fact. You take this as the truth, as a factual thing. You have then placed YOUR FAITH in that this book has informed you correctly for you have not repeated the experiments to test for the results yourself. Science may be seen as a "fact". But on YOUR part it is taken on faith that it is indeed a fact.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 04/16/12 12:25 PM
There is proof, the scriptures we possess. Holds just as much validity as any other form of evidence even down to science. science books do not claim to be inspirely written by that which can not be proved to exist ...once they do...then they will be just as absurd as the scriptures

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 04/16/12 12:29 PM
There is proof, the scriptures we possess. Holds just as much validity as any other form of evidence even down to science. science books do not claim to be inspirely written by that which can not be proved to exist ...once they do...then they will be just as absurd as the scriptures Sure they can be proved to exist. Just people don't accept them as such, that is where the line is drawn as why they are "religious" or "factual". Boils down to pretty much people's opinion(s). For example - Can you prove that our biological structure is made up of "molecules" without using a book? Or a paper written by a "scientist"? Because any external object used can be said to be hearsay.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 04/16/12 12:33 PM
There is proof, the scriptures we possess. Holds just as much validity as any other form of evidence even down to science. science books do not claim to be inspirely written by that which can not be proved to exist ...once they do...then they will be just as absurd as the scriptures Sure they can be proved to exist. Just people don't accept them as such, that is where the line is drawn as why they are "religious" or "factual". Boils down to pretty much people's opinion(s). For example - Can you prove that our biological structure is made up of "molecules" without using a book? Or a paper written by a "scientist"? Because any external object used can be said to be hearsay. science do not ask you to have faith...it demands that you investigate

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Mon 04/16/12 12:34 PM
There is proof, the scriptures we possess. Holds just as much validity as any other form of evidence even down to science. science books do not claim to be inspirely written by that which can not be proved to exist ...once they do...then they will be just as absurd as the scriptures Sure they can be proved to exist. Just people don't accept them as such, that is where the line is drawn as why they are "religious" or "factual". Boils down to pretty much people's opinion(s). For example - Can you prove that our biological structure is made up of "molecules" without using a book? Or a paper written by a "scientist"? Because any external object used can be said to be hearsay. Cowboy according to the bible the earth was flat and sunset and sunrise happened because the earth didn't rotate on it's axis it sat on a foundation while the sun was moved back and forth.Give me break about the bible and science,there is no scientifical nothing in the bible,just dumba$$ men who didn't have a clue how the universe worked.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 04/16/12 12:36 PM
There is proof, the scriptures we possess. Holds just as much validity as any other form of evidence even down to science. science books do not claim to be inspirely written by that which can not be proved to exist ...once they do...then they will be just as absurd as the scriptures Sure they can be proved to exist. Just people don't accept them as such, that is where the line is drawn as why they are "religious" or "factual". Boils down to pretty much people's opinion(s). For example - Can you prove that our biological structure is made up of "molecules" without using a book? Or a paper written by a "scientist"? Because any external object used can be said to be hearsay. Cowboy according to the bible the earth was flat and sunset and sunrise happened because the earth didn't rotate on it's axis it sat on a foundation while the sun was moved back and forth.Give me break about the bible and science,there is no scientifical nothing in the bible,just dumba$$ men who didn't have a clue how the universe worked. Please back this claim with verses, I know not of what you speak of. I know of verses that refer to the spherical shape of the Earth, but not it's flatness.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Mon 04/16/12 12:41 PM
There is proof, the scriptures we possess. Holds just as much validity as any other form of evidence even down to science. science books do not claim to be inspirely written by that which can not be proved to exist ...once they do...then they will be just as absurd as the scriptures Sure they can be proved to exist. Just people don't accept them as such, that is where the line is drawn as why they are "religious" or "factual". Boils down to pretty much people's opinion(s). For example - Can you prove that our biological structure is made up of "molecules" without using a book? Or a paper written by a "scientist"? Because any external object used can be said to be hearsay. Cowboy according to the bible the earth was flat and sunset and sunrise happened because the earth didn't rotate on it's axis it sat on a foundation while the sun was moved back and forth.Give me break about the bible and science,there is no scientifical nothing in the bible,just dumba$$ men who didn't have a clue how the universe worked. Please back this claim with verses, I know not of what you speak of. I know of verses that refer to the spherical shape of the Earth, but not it's flatness. it was a circle not sphere and if you knew your precious bible you'd know about joshua along with the earth being on pillars and having a foundation...i'm not going to link verses when you supposively know the bible and if you do you'd know what i'm typing about

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 04/16/12 12:43 PM
There is proof, the scriptures we possess. Holds just as much validity as any other form of evidence even down to science. science books do not claim to be inspirely written by that which can not be proved to exist ...once they do...then they will be just as absurd as the scriptures Sure they can be proved to exist. Just people don't accept them as such, that is where the line is drawn as why they are "religious" or "factual". Boils down to pretty much people's opinion(s). For example - Can you prove that our biological structure is made up of "molecules" without using a book? Or a paper written by a "scientist"? Because any external object used can be said to be hearsay. Cowboy according to the bible the earth was flat and sunset and sunrise happened because the earth didn't rotate on it's axis it sat on a foundation while the sun was moved back and forth.Give me break about the bible and science,there is no scientifical nothing in the bible,just dumba$$ men who didn't have a clue how the universe worked. Please back this claim with verses, I know not of what you speak of. I know of verses that refer to the spherical shape of the Earth, but not it's flatness. Isaiah 40:22 22It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: ---------------- Job 26:7 7He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. ------------ "Hangetht he earth upon nothing"... In space maybe? =================

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Mon 04/16/12 12:44 PM
Anyone who claims the bible as a science book is really F'ed up in the head...seriously F'ed up in the head

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 04/16/12 12:45 PM
There is proof, the scriptures we possess. Holds just as much validity as any other form of evidence even down to science. science books do not claim to be inspirely written by that which can not be proved to exist ...once they do...then they will be just as absurd as the scriptures Sure they can be proved to exist. Just people don't accept them as such, that is where the line is drawn as why they are "religious" or "factual". Boils down to pretty much people's opinion(s). For example - Can you prove that our biological structure is made up of "molecules" without using a book? Or a paper written by a "scientist"? Because any external object used can be said to be hearsay. Cowboy according to the bible the earth was flat and sunset and sunrise happened because the earth didn't rotate on it's axis it sat on a foundation while the sun was moved back and forth.Give me break about the bible and science,there is no scientifical nothing in the bible,just dumba$$ men who didn't have a clue how the universe worked. Please back this claim with verses, I know not of what you speak of. I know of verses that refer to the spherical shape of the Earth, but not it's flatness. it was a circle not sphere and if you knew your precious bible you'd know about joshua along with the earth being on pillars and having a foundation...i'm not going to link verses when you supposively know the bible and if you do you'd know what i'm typing about Sphere and circle are moreorless the same thing. Only difference is sphere is three demensional.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Mon 04/16/12 12:45 PM
Proverbs 8:27- When he prepared the heavens, I was there, When he drew a circle on the face of the deep

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 04/16/12 12:46 PM
Anyone who claims the bible as a science book is really F'ed up in the head...seriously F'ed up in the head No the bible isn't a science book, never claimed it was. But nevertheless the little knowledge it does give in the scientific area is accurate.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Mon 04/16/12 12:47 PM
"For the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, And He has set the world upon them

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 04/16/12 12:47 PM
Proverbs 8:27- When he prepared the heavens, I was there, When he drew a circle on the face of the deep When using scriptures, try to use an older version. Not a translation of a translation of a translation, ect. Proverbs 8:27 27When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth