Topic: Creating Life
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Tue 04/03/12 11:57 AM


Now that man has started the process of creating life, where will it go? What are it's limits? What can you imagine?

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As novel scientific achievements such as recombinant DNA technology, stem cells, and most recently, synthetic biology, exit the lab and merge with the outside world, fear has followed them. This fear factor has influenced public perception of most novel scientific endeavors.

Biotechnophobia seems to stem from the fact that the risk is human-made. People are less worried about natural risks, David Ropeik, founder and principal of Ropeik and Associates, a risk management consultancy, wrote in The Guardian.

“Nature can indeed be red in tooth and claw, but new versions of plants, animals, and microorganisms that evolve via Darwinian evolution don’t upset us half as much as hybridization by genetic engineering.” We will need to understand and come to terms with factors that bias our risk perceptions, Ropeik warned, or we may fail to exploit breakthroughs like synthetic life.

There are indeed organizations to assess risk and monitor potential hazards associated with biotechnologies. In October 1974, NIH established the Recombinant DNA Advisory Committee (RAC) to respond to public anxiety about the safety of manipulating genetic material through the use of recombinant DNA techniques.

NIH has assessed its “Guidelines for Research Involving Recombinant DNA” with regard to synthetic biology and found that the distinction between recombinant and synthetic techniques is immaterial in discerning the need for biosafety oversight. Rather it is the biological attributes of the final product that should be taken into account. As part of the assessment it amended the guidelines document to include nucleic acids that are synthesized chemically without the use of recombinant technology.

Yet, as recently as March 13, a group of 111 watchdog organizations including ETC Group and Friends of the Earth issued a report saying that current practices for regulating and assessing biotechnology were inadequate. They called synthetic biology “an extreme form of genetic engineering” and asked for a moratorium on the release and commercial use of synthetic organisms and their products.


Note that in 2010 a lifeform was created with a totally synthetic DNA sequence. The ability to create self replicating synthetic biology is advancing rapidly.

Balancing the Hysteria

The Synthetic Biology Project at the Woodrow Wilson Center found that as of 2010, the U.S. government has spent around $430 million on synthetic-biology-related research since 2005, with the Department of Energy funding most of the research.

Industry has also shown considerable enthusiasm since the development of Synthia. Synthetic Genomics snagged a $600 million contract with Exxon Mobil to design algae that can capture carbon dioxide and make fuel. The company, founded by Dr. Venter, provided $30 million to fund the Synthia project and owns the intellectual property rights to the cell-creation techniques.

Commenting on synthetic biology, Christopher Voight, while working at UCSF, was quoted as saying. “I think this quickly will be applied to all the most important industrial bacteria.” In 2011, Dr. Voight moved to MIT to become the co-director of MIT’s Synthetic Biology Engineering Research Center (SynBERC). A five-year, $17 million grant from the NSF supports the center.

Plenty of contentious opinions, nonetheless, continue to form around synthetic biology. It remains to be seen how far the ETC Group/Friends of the Earth action will go in pushing for more regulation and a moratorium on syn bio products. The Biotechnology Industry Organization said this about the watchdog group’s proposal: “with the shrillness of its tone and its lack of objectivity, I don’t think it’s really helpful to policy-makers and the public.” Indeed, what is needed is a balanced, informed, open forum on the realities of synthetic biology.


Genetic Engineering has long meant replacing a few genes to get some desired effect.

Synthetic biology is life with all the genes created manmade from scratch.

Read more at http://www.genengnews.com/insight-and-intelligenceand153/recent-fear-and-loathing-in-synthetic-biology-reminiscent-of-other-biotechnologies/77899577/


the News sure knocked the Pope for a Loop!laugh


I bet it did. The Catholic church is going to headscratch for awhile to explain how this fits into their "world view".

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Tue 04/03/12 12:24 PM

Now that man has started the process of creating life, where will it go? What are it's limits? What can you imagine?


Where will it go?

I see a new hierachy system in the world emerging in the future due to ability to create life.

I see people mated in same sex relationships celebrating the new technology as it will benefit their desires for children, offspring.

I see people's dignity and respect as human beings thrown out the window, we are now as it is, as humans, becoming more and more of a number with the monopolization of corporations running worldwide empires, people do become a commodity, disposable, throw-aways ... especially more so when "pefection" can be the ultimate realm in creating people physically, intellectually ... without flaw.

I see a future world where people are known by model number and not by name to benefit the big players in the world.

I can see this technology could get out of control if not governed for there will be lusting for control, greed and power through this technology arising out of the ability to create life in perfection of fullness. For example, a Hilter dream race emerging ruled under one ultimate power or fight for power under the "People Manufacturing Corporation", a new world government.

I am beginning to sound a bit sci-fi here as my imagination runs away on this topic and will stop for now.


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Tue 04/03/12 02:58 PM
Edited by metalwing on Tue 04/03/12 02:59 PM


Now that man has started the process of creating life, where will it go? What are it's limits? What can you imagine?


Where will it go?

I see a new hierachy system in the world emerging in the future due to ability to create life.

I see people mated in same sex relationships celebrating the new technology as it will benefit their desires for children, offspring.

I see people's dignity and respect as human beings thrown out the window, we are now as it is, as humans, becoming more and more of a number with the monopolization of corporations running worldwide empires, people do become a commodity, disposable, throw-aways ... especially more so when "pefection" can be the ultimate realm in creating people physically, intellectually ... without flaw.

I see a future world where people are known by model number and not by name to benefit the big players in the world.

I can see this technology could get out of control if not governed for there will be lusting for control, greed and power through this technology arising out of the ability to create life in perfection of fullness. For example, a Hilter dream race emerging ruled under one ultimate power or fight for power under the "People Manufacturing Corporation", a new world government.

I am beginning to sound a bit sci-fi here as my imagination runs away on this topic and will stop for now.




The reality is that most science started out as science fiction. There is a movie about people with "perfect DNA". I forget it's name. You are describing a similar scenario.

One of the biggest surprises to this discovery is that the genome can be any length, even that of human DNA. We can now do designer modifications to any genome to add or subtract any gene we want.

This ability is better than cloning as we can adjust the genetic pattern at will.

Before too long we will hear about the perfect rabbit ... chicken ... pig ...horses ... and before long, humans. The legal system will get involved. Count on it.

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Tue 04/03/12 03:12 PM
I don't think "the perfect human" will stay perfect. He or she may be born perfect, but wrong thinking and bad environment will soon cause your so-called perfect person to change.

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Tue 04/03/12 03:49 PM
Edited by WholesomeWoman on Tue 04/03/12 03:56 PM



Now that man has started the process of creating life, where will it go? What are it's limits? What can you imagine?


Where will it go?

I see a new hierachy system in the world emerging in the future due to ability to create life.

I see people mated in same sex relationships celebrating the new technology as it will benefit their desires for children, offspring.

I see people's dignity and respect as human beings thrown out the window, we are now as it is, as humans, becoming more and more of a number with the monopolization of corporations running worldwide empires, people do become a commodity, disposable, throw-aways ... especially more so when "pefection" can be the ultimate realm in creating people physically, intellectually ... without flaw.

I see a future world where people are known by model number and not by name to benefit the big players in the world.

I can see this technology could get out of control if not governed for there will be lusting for control, greed and power through this technology arising out of the ability to create life in perfection of fullness. For example, a Hilter dream race emerging ruled under one ultimate power or fight for power under the "People Manufacturing Corporation", a new world government.

I am beginning to sound a bit sci-fi here as my imagination runs away on this topic and will stop for now.




The reality is that most science started out as science fiction. There is a movie about people with "perfect DNA". I forget it's name. You are describing a similar scenario.

One of the biggest surprises to this discovery is that the genome can be any length, even that of human DNA. We can now do designer modifications to any genome to add or subtract any gene we want.

This ability is better than cloning as we can adjust the genetic pattern at will.

Before too long we will hear about the perfect rabbit ... chicken ... pig ...horses ... and before long, humans. The legal system will get involved. Count on it.


I'll have to look for the movie and view it. I totally agree for fiction writers touch on science topics and down the road a (similiar) reality emerges.

What I have read and think will be most beneficial and in our time too would be "Preventative Disease/Sicknesses Medicals" by detection from a drop of one's blood. Your genetic make-up can be repaired.

I also read that in the future from birth babies' DNA will be altered so a perfect physcially healthy human being will exist, one without disease. I do not recall if intellect can be modified, will it? As well, I suspect our average life expectancy will increase is another thought.

Your topic is very interesting, thank you for it.

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Tue 04/03/12 04:09 PM
Edited by WholesomeWoman on Tue 04/03/12 04:21 PM




Synthetic biology will probably go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

Very few humans are even aware of it's existence.

It could also be the end of mankind.



I doubt both of those statements very much.

It will not go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and it will not be the end of mankind.


But this is an actual science event and you have proven many times that science is not your cup of tea.


I can still strongly disagree with your outlandish claims.

And I do.

They are outlandish and unsupported. They are apparently your opinion.

So if you are going to make such claims,(or opinions) you should (or may want to) elaborate more.

How and why will it go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and how and why will it cause the end of mankind?




These I confirm are not outlandish claims JeannieBean which MetalWings claims. As a matter of fact it is quit a controverial topic and has been for over a decade or maybe two by now. In a college Bio-Ethics course about 12 years ago, our paper was to write on cloning, on where we stand ethically. Dolly was hitting the news back then in regards to human cloning being next after a sheep was cloned.

For about 10 years I have not followed up on this subject at hand but heard of or seen an article here or there or a documentary on headway in cloning to what it is today. JeannieBean I have to agree with Metalwings for all he has stated is indeed supported!

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Tue 04/03/12 04:20 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 04/03/12 04:24 PM





Synthetic biology will probably go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

Very few humans are even aware of it's existence.

It could also be the end of mankind.



I doubt both of those statements very much.

It will not go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and it will not be the end of mankind.


But this is an actual science event and you have proven many times that science is not your cup of tea.


I can still strongly disagree with your outlandish claims.

And I do.

They are outlandish and unsupported. They are apparently your opinion.

So if you are going to make such claims,(or opinions) you should (or may want to) elaborate more.

How and why will it go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and how and why will it cause the end of mankind?




These I confirm are not outlandish claims. As a matter of fact it is quit a controverial topic. In a college Bio-Ethics course about 12 years our paper was to write on cloning, Dolly was hitting the news then with regards to the cloning issue. For about 10 years I have not related but seen here and there research headway in cloning to what it is today. JeannieBean I have to agree with Metalwings that you are marking remarks that are not valid to the nor have credibility for all what he has stated is indeed supported!


No, all that Metalwing has stated has not been supported.

His outlandish claims are:

1. That Synthetic biology will probably go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

That is an opinion. He even uses the term "probably" to soften the statement.

and

2. It could also be the end of mankind.

also an opinion, softened with "could" meaning it also "could not."

These are the opinions/claims that I disagree with and am calling outlandish. I will repeat:

I doubt both of those statements very much.

It will not go down as the "greatest achievement in the history of mankind" and it will not be "the end of mankind."

In no way do I doubt the facts about what they are doing with DNA and cells. I am well aware that there are mad scientists all over the place who will stop at nothing to create life and alter DNA and clone people etc. I have no doubt that there are many working on these things that we have never heard about. There may even be human clones walking around that we don't know about.

so wholesome woman, how are my remarks "not valid."

He has stated his opinion, and his opinions on what might happen in the future are just opinions. They are not "supported."

I say poo poo on those opinions.




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Tue 04/03/12 04:28 PM
Edited by WholesomeWoman on Tue 04/03/12 04:36 PM


Synthetic biology will probably go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

Very few humans are even aware of it's existence.

It could also be the end of mankind.



I doubt both of those statements very much.

It will not go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and it will not be the end of mankind.


If you are referring to his two statements from above, they are (his) opinions. Opinions based on the scientific claims that have been established and supported of to which there is credibility.



Opinions are not claims but can be outlandish. Actually I can see the end of mankind too and an opinion I agree with MetalWings on. Also research as such does not make news headlines and agree that many people do know about research findings. A person could be quite amazed at what is available and not known publicly such as there are some cures for some cancers but there are no financial backers to test and pharmaceutical companies will not buy in for the reason they would lose instead of make money. For the drug found to cure costs pennies and to test it would cost loads of money. Scenario like this are the case thus many do not know about things which are available for the human population.

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Tue 04/03/12 04:37 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 04/03/12 04:41 PM



Synthetic biology will probably go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

Very few humans are even aware of it's existence.

It could also be the end of mankind.



I doubt both of those statements very much.

It will not go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and it will not be the end of mankind.


If you are referring to his two statements from above, they are (his) opinions. Opinions based on the scientific claims that have been established and supported of to which there is credibility.

Opinions are not claims but can be outlandish. Actually I can see the end of mankind too and an opinion I agree with MetalWings on. Also research as such does not make news headlines and agree that many people do know about research findings. A person could be quite amazed at what is available and not known such as cures for some cancers.


Yes those are the statements I find outlandish.

You are right, they are not really "claims." They are opinions. They are not even solid opinions because of the words he softened them with. (Probably and Could)

(I could care less what science he bases his opinions on or how established and supported they are thought to be. His opinions are still outlandish.)

And those opinions are not supported. He may base his opinions on some science that is supported, but that science does not support his opinions.





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Tue 04/03/12 05:19 PM





Synthetic biology will probably go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

Very few humans are even aware of it's existence.

It could also be the end of mankind.



I doubt both of those statements very much.

It will not go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and it will not be the end of mankind.


But this is an actual science event and you have proven many times that science is not your cup of tea.


I can still strongly disagree with your outlandish claims.

And I do.

They are outlandish and unsupported. They are apparently your opinion.

So if you are going to make such claims,(or opinions) you should (or may want to) elaborate more.

How and why will it go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and how and why will it cause the end of mankind?




These I confirm are not outlandish claims JeannieBean which MetalWings claims. As a matter of fact it is quit a controverial topic and has been for over a decade or maybe two by now. In a college Bio-Ethics course about 12 years ago, our paper was to write on cloning, on where we stand ethically. Dolly was hitting the news back then in regards to human cloning being next after a sheep was cloned.

For about 10 years I have not followed up on this subject at hand but heard of or seen an article here or there or a documentary on headway in cloning to what it is today. JeannieBean I have to agree with Metalwings for all he has stated is indeed supported!


Thanks. JB doesn't understand the topic. She makes these types of statements in most of the science threads because she doesn't have any knowledge on the subject. She doesn't realize that people like you can spot the difference.

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Tue 04/03/12 05:30 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 04/03/12 05:38 PM






Synthetic biology will probably go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

Very few humans are even aware of it's existence.

It could also be the end of mankind.



I doubt both of those statements very much.

It will not go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and it will not be the end of mankind.


But this is an actual science event and you have proven many times that science is not your cup of tea.


I can still strongly disagree with your outlandish claims.

And I do.

They are outlandish and unsupported. They are apparently your opinion.

So if you are going to make such claims,(or opinions) you should (or may want to) elaborate more.

How and why will it go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and how and why will it cause the end of mankind?




These I confirm are not outlandish claims JeannieBean which MetalWings claims. As a matter of fact it is quit a controverial topic and has been for over a decade or maybe two by now. In a college Bio-Ethics course about 12 years ago, our paper was to write on cloning, on where we stand ethically. Dolly was hitting the news back then in regards to human cloning being next after a sheep was cloned.

For about 10 years I have not followed up on this subject at hand but heard of or seen an article here or there or a documentary on headway in cloning to what it is today. JeannieBean I have to agree with Metalwings for all he has stated is indeed supported!


Thanks. JB doesn't understand the topic. She makes these types of statements in most of the science threads because she doesn't have any knowledge on the subject. She doesn't realize that people like you can spot the difference.


I understand the topic just fine, and the topic is not about me.

You continue to always make the topic about me and insist on posting your unqualified opinions about me and what you think I do or do not understand. You don't realize that I can spot antagonism when I see it.

Forum rule number one, You can discuss the message or topic, but not the messenger - NO EXCEPTIONS.

Back to the topic:(and your posted opinions)

I think your OPINIONS ARE OUTLANDISH. They are not supported by science. They are just opinions and not even solid opinions.


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Tue 04/03/12 05:43 PM
Plus, metalwing, you did not answer my questions. How and why do you think synthetic biology will result in the end of mankind?

How and why do you think synthetic biology will "probably" go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind....And according to who?

I'm sure you have a very creative imagination and can come up with some science fiction horror story, but do you have anything significant to actually support your future predictions?




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Tue 04/03/12 05:47 PM







Synthetic biology will probably go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

Very few humans are even aware of it's existence.

It could also be the end of mankind.



I doubt both of those statements very much.

It will not go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and it will not be the end of mankind.


But this is an actual science event and you have proven many times that science is not your cup of tea.


I can still strongly disagree with your outlandish claims.

And I do.

They are outlandish and unsupported. They are apparently your opinion.

So if you are going to make such claims,(or opinions) you should (or may want to) elaborate more.

How and why will it go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and how and why will it cause the end of mankind?




These I confirm are not outlandish claims JeannieBean which MetalWings claims. As a matter of fact it is quit a controverial topic and has been for over a decade or maybe two by now. In a college Bio-Ethics course about 12 years ago, our paper was to write on cloning, on where we stand ethically. Dolly was hitting the news back then in regards to human cloning being next after a sheep was cloned.

For about 10 years I have not followed up on this subject at hand but heard of or seen an article here or there or a documentary on headway in cloning to what it is today. JeannieBean I have to agree with Metalwings for all he has stated is indeed supported!


Thanks. JB doesn't understand the topic. She makes these types of statements in most of the science threads because she doesn't have any knowledge on the subject. She doesn't realize that people like you can spot the difference.


I understand the topic just fine, and the topic is not about me.

You continue to always make the topic about me and insist on posting your unqualified opinions about me and what you think I do or do not understand. You don't realize that I can spot antagonism when I see it.

Forum rule number one, You can discuss the message or topic, but not the messenger - NO EXCEPTIONS.

Back to the topic:(and your posted opinions)

I think your OPINIONS ARE OUTLANDISH. They are not supported by science. They are just opinions and not even solid opinions.




My statements would be considered completely reasonable to anyone with any knowledge of the subject, as was just proven.

Your statements that they are outlandish is just your usual form of thread hijacking because you know of no science, trend, or research to say anything pertinent.

You can also spot aliens striking during 9/11 but I don't think it proves how good your mind works.

My opinions are supported by science as you would know if you bothered to read any of the support information I posted.

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Tue 04/03/12 05:57 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 04/03/12 06:05 PM








Synthetic biology will probably go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

Very few humans are even aware of it's existence.

It could also be the end of mankind.



I doubt both of those statements very much.

It will not go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and it will not be the end of mankind.


But this is an actual science event and you have proven many times that science is not your cup of tea.


I can still strongly disagree with your outlandish claims.

And I do.

They are outlandish and unsupported. They are apparently your opinion.

So if you are going to make such claims,(or opinions) you should (or may want to) elaborate more.

How and why will it go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and how and why will it cause the end of mankind?




These I confirm are not outlandish claims JeannieBean which MetalWings claims. As a matter of fact it is quit a controverial topic and has been for over a decade or maybe two by now. In a college Bio-Ethics course about 12 years ago, our paper was to write on cloning, on where we stand ethically. Dolly was hitting the news back then in regards to human cloning being next after a sheep was cloned.

For about 10 years I have not followed up on this subject at hand but heard of or seen an article here or there or a documentary on headway in cloning to what it is today. JeannieBean I have to agree with Metalwings for all he has stated is indeed supported!


Thanks. JB doesn't understand the topic. She makes these types of statements in most of the science threads because she doesn't have any knowledge on the subject. She doesn't realize that people like you can spot the difference.


I understand the topic just fine, and the topic is not about me.

You continue to always make the topic about me and insist on posting your unqualified opinions about me and what you think I do or do not understand. You don't realize that I can spot antagonism when I see it.

Forum rule number one, You can discuss the message or topic, but not the messenger - NO EXCEPTIONS.

Back to the topic:(and your posted opinions)

I think your OPINIONS ARE OUTLANDISH. They are not supported by science. They are just opinions and not even solid opinions.




My statements would be considered completely reasonable to anyone with any knowledge of the subject, as was just proven.

Your statements that they are outlandish is just your usual form of thread hijacking because you know of no science, trend, or research to say anything pertinent.

You can also spot aliens striking during 9/11 but I don't think it proves how good your mind works.

My opinions are supported by science as you would know if you bothered to read any of the support information I posted.


There you go again. Talking about me. "your, your, you, you, your mind, you"..." blah blah blah.

You can discuss the message or topic, but not the messenger - NO EXCEPTIONS.

and I didn't see anything about "aliens" in the entire thread so where did that come from?

Your opinions ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY SCIENCE.

You are making predictions about what YOU THINK might or could "probably" happen in the future.

So please, I'm interested in hearing your detailed science fiction horror stories about how synthetic biology will be the end of mankind.

and how it will go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind....And I'm curious, ...according to who?


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Tue 04/03/12 06:03 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 04/03/12 06:04 PM
Just because you base your opinions on some science about synthetic biology that does not mean that the science supports your opinions. I enjoy your creative imagination and you do have a right to your opinions but I have a right to strongly disagree with them.

It ain't gonna happen.

Synthetic biology will not be the end of mankind, and it will not go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

So lets just agree to disagree.


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Tue 04/03/12 10:06 PM
Edited by WholesomeWoman on Tue 04/03/12 10:10 PM









Synthetic biology will probably go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

Very few humans are even aware of it's existence.

It could also be the end of mankind.



I doubt both of those statements very much.

It will not go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and it will not be the end of mankind.


But this is an actual science event and you have proven many times that science is not your cup of tea.


I can still strongly disagree with your outlandish claims.

And I do.

They are outlandish and unsupported. They are apparently your opinion.

So if you are going to make such claims,(or opinions) you should (or may want to) elaborate more.

How and why will it go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind and how and why will it cause the end of mankind?




These I confirm are not outlandish claims JeannieBean which MetalWings claims. As a matter of fact it is quit a controverial topic and has been for over a decade or maybe two by now. In a college Bio-Ethics course about 12 years ago, our paper was to write on cloning, on where we stand ethically. Dolly was hitting the news back then in regards to human cloning being next after a sheep was cloned.

For about 10 years I have not followed up on this subject at hand but heard of or seen an article here or there or a documentary on headway in cloning to what it is today. JeannieBean I have to agree with Metalwings for all he has stated is indeed supported!


Thanks. JB doesn't understand the topic. She makes these types of statements in most of the science threads because she doesn't have any knowledge on the subject. She doesn't realize that people like you can spot the difference.


I understand the topic just fine, and the topic is not about me.

You continue to always make the topic about me and insist on posting your unqualified opinions about me and what you think I do or do not understand. You don't realize that I can spot antagonism when I see it.

Forum rule number one, You can discuss the message or topic, but not the messenger - NO EXCEPTIONS.

Back to the topic:(and your posted opinions)

I think your OPINIONS ARE OUTLANDISH. They are not supported by science. They are just opinions and not even solid opinions.




My statements would be considered completely reasonable to anyone with any knowledge of the subject, as was just proven.

Your statements that they are outlandish is just your usual form of thread hijacking because you know of no science, trend, or research to say anything pertinent.

You can also spot aliens striking during 9/11 but I don't think it proves how good your mind works.

My opinions are supported by science as you would know if you bothered to read any of the support information I posted.


There you go again. Talking about me. "your, your, you, you, your mind, you"..." blah blah blah.

You can discuss the message or topic, but not the messenger - NO EXCEPTIONS.

and I didn't see anything about "aliens" in the entire thread so where did that come from?

Your opinions ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY SCIENCE.

You are making predictions about what YOU THINK might or could "probably" happen in the future.

So please, I'm interested in hearing your detailed science fiction horror stories about how synthetic biology will be the end of mankind.

and how it will go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind....And I'm curious, ...according to who?




You are welcome MetalWings and I sympathize greatly with you. I note as well you have been more than kind and patient with JeannieBean in her statements.

JeannieBean you have side-tracked this interesting wonderful topic and made it actually all about you not as you say otherwise, it is the other way around. There was actually nothing to disagree with him about either in all you write from what he has posted in all these threads. Science is not your forte and my advice it is best not to do what you are doing but to leave a topic you do not understand. If anything it makes you look bad and not MetalWings.

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Tue 04/03/12 11:12 PM
Synthetic biology will probably go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

Very few humans are even aware of it's existence.

It could also be the end of mankind.


I was certainly unaware of it. The last I read it wasn't from "scratch", but rather was more like borrowing pre-existing ingredients...

:wink:

So, a complete new self-replicating organism? Very interesting.

creativesoul's photo
Tue 04/03/12 11:28 PM
Although I'm not at all knowledgable on the specifics of the matter, doesn't an organism require some sort of self-regulating homeostasis? Has that been acheived?

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Wed 04/04/12 07:25 AM

Although I'm not at all knowledgable on the specifics of the matter, doesn't an organism require some sort of self-regulating homeostasis? Has that been acheived?


It's alive.

The dramatic achievement is that they can write a DNA sequence from scratch with a computer program and convert it to real DNA. This means that we now have the ability to make a genome say anything we want. The first living, growing, replicating creature in the world made entirely of human made synthetic DNA is called Snythia.

Oddly, Genetic Engineering appears to be considered a field of biology. The new field of Synthetic Biology is a field of Engineering where the process is just considered technology.

Here is a little Youtube cartoon that describes the process. The film was apparently made before the final process was successful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXQhJPdlElY

It's not theoretical any more.

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Wed 04/04/12 07:49 AM

Synthetic biology will probably go down as the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

Very few humans are even aware of it's existence.

It could also be the end of mankind.


I was certainly unaware of it. The last I read it wasn't from "scratch", but rather was more like borrowing pre-existing ingredients...

:wink:

So, a complete new self-replicating organism? Very interesting.


Here is an interesting take on the discovery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=Lsr-pjGZzLk