O' Wandering Seeker... Release Jesus from the Cross that you have built upon his Word. Remove from him the nails you have placed upon his hands and his feet as did the masses in the time of the Romans.

For Jesus obeyed the Father. Yet you would ask that man obey you and obey Jesus as do you (indeed you have nailed him again upon the Cross).

I say to you O' Seeker that Jesus has gone to the Father.

The Cross is empty and contains him not. The Grave is empty and he is not to be found there..
Christ has Risen.

Roll aside the Stone of Adam and see O' Seeker... Jesus is not within the grave for he has gone to the Father (as was fortold)...

Christ walks the Earth in the Flesh.

The Son of Man stands before you in Glory... As was foretold...

Yet you see it not for your blind clinging to the Son of God.

I ask no such thing. I care not someone obey me or believe me. I'm here doing just as this forum is for, expressing my beliefs on the subjects at hand. And following discussions that are born of that.



Yes Jesus does. Jesus walks beside each and everyone of us.

That's all this forum is for, expressing our different religious/spiritual views on different subjects/topics. This is so we can get to know one another on a deeper level then just an "Hi my name is...". Because on a general note, "religious/spiritual" views plays a big part in who we are and who we could/would be suitable for. As for not conflicts to appear later on down the road.

This forum isn't for being right or being wrong, teaching or specifically learning "unless one is willing to learn of another's spiritual views".

The only time there is specifically teaching/learning is when speaking of a specific organized belief. Speaking of what a specific teaching(s) teach. But outside of that, your own personal walk with a spiritual belief is only here for sharing unless one chooses to learn it.

Cowboy do you believe we are in Revelations?

I do believe so. Don't necassarily know how far we are into it or anything of that specifics. But things in the world are turning more and more towards the prophecies of revelations.

Cowboy...so according to your theory if child molestation was someone's spiritual belief then you yourself would be ok with that and embrace them and would be willing to learn of their spiritual child molestation beliefs and practices and spread it to others

this thread address the opposite, it asks if someone has a right to believe in child molestation or anything as a spiritual belief and inject that belief into society without justification and without taking responsibility for the consequences

those that believe in Gods also believe that it's ok to kill torture and torment others because of what they believe and inject this mentality into society with no justification beyond the delusion of Faith

No, never said that. They would have full choice to have that belief, if they wanted to, sure. Didn't say I agree with these other belief, but is not my decision on weather other's believe in them or not. So yeah, if someone's belief had something to do with child molestation, they would have just as much right to have that belief as I do mine. But since for some reason you mention such a dark example, outside of spiritual beliefs, these people would then also have to deal with the law and everything for having such a practice.



Someone has the right to BELIEVE in anything. This does not include the actions that may or may not follow there after. A belief and action is two totally different things. And besides that, we're talking about a PERSONAL belief, with a PERSONAL belief taht is not injecting anything into sociaty, for again it is personal.



Again, never said I condone to these kind of actions. But they have just as much right to believe in that stuff as you have not to. You keep forgetting something Funches. Not believing in something is in fact believing in something. You don't believe in say "Christianity", thus your belief is that Christianity is false. If you have the right to believe something is false, someone has the right to believe it's true. Again, not condoning to all the different beliefs, but everyone has their own right to believe in any thing they dang well please.

Cowboy...when you post...you are injecting your belief into society....or do you also believe that everything posted on Mingle2 instantly become "Government Classified Material"

if you claim that your belief is personal...then keep it to yourself ......but if you decide not to keep it to yourself then you are injecting it into society ....and you should also be willing to take responsbiblity for doing so

this is why your belief in a God that kills humans anytime it choose to do so is the same as you injecting into society that it's ok to kill torture and torment humans for what they believe in

when someone kills in the name of God or because of God....you are partically responsible

Still not injecting anything into sociaty. This particular forum is for just that, sharing your spiritual/religious beliefs. Sociaty is injecting themselves with our beliefs by coming to this forum and reading the shared beliefs stated in this forum.



Again, that is what this forum is for, getting to know one another on a more PERSONAL level then "Hi my name is....".

I am absolutely not responsible for anything anyone else does. That's like saying the movie "Hell Raiser" is responsible for someone killing another person. We are all only accountable for our OWN actions, not what someone else does.

So yeah, lets go with your perspective here. If you wish to blame "religion" for the monsterous things that go on in this world, we should then ban any violent movie and or anything that "promotes" any form of violence. For it's influencing our younger generation(s) to do monsterous things in this world.

Can you say Bull Crap? lol. Each and every person is accountable for their own actions, this includes but not limited to what they allow to influence them to do whatever actions is in question.

if the producers of "Hell Raiser" and all those that were involved with the advertisment and/or promotion claim that the movie was a religion and commanded that it followers practice what was portrayed in the movie as being religious truth and used faith as justification ...then all of those involved would also be responsibile for the consequences

the same with the promotion of Gods as being truth with no proof beyond faith that they are...you are also responsible for the consequences .....

Then follow the advise that exists within your book.

You have stated you are a Child of God. Yet you have stated that Jesus is your God.

Neither can be if the other is true.

For Jesus is the Son of God and not the Father.

You then become the son of a son.

I also am a Child of God yet Jesus is my Brother.

I am the Son of Man...

But not the first born of my Father.

hopefully "Child of God" and "Brother to Jesus" is being used metaphorically ....because if not, then this is going to start a whole new incest debate

No they would not be responsible Funches. YOU can not go to prison for someone else murdering someone. That is because only YOU are responsible for YOU and no one elses actions.

Jesus was only a child of God when he took on the form of a servant and was in the manner of a man. You will never find a reference to the Word being the son of God and Jesus is the Word in the flesh.
And besides that, lets look at who created man.


Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


Jesus is OUR father, he is the one whom created us. We are not brothers and sisters with Jesus Christ. You will never find a passage Jesus says OUR father or OUR God, says HIS father, HIS God, ect.

No one is a brother to Jesus Christ, Jesus is our God, Jesus is our creator. We are not equal to Jesus.

You and I are equal, you and anyone else in this world are equal, me and anyone else in this world is equal. Not one of us is greater then the other. Money doesn't make you greater, power doesn't make you greater, we are all equal.

Jesus Christ is greater then each and everyone of us and greater then anyone that has or will walk the face of this Earth.

Cowboy it's funny how you forgot to include "Child of God"...because didn't you claim that you are a "Child of God"....so please do tell how God and not your human Father impregnated your Mother's egg and you popped out .....

or were you perhaps speaking ...er.....metaphorically?

My "dad" impregnated my mother's egg, not my "father". And only through what my "Father" has created could my "dad" do that.

that makes you a "Child of Dad" ...not a Child of God

it appears you have some anger issues with "Dad"