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Topic: Creation vs. Evolution.
Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Wed 05/23/12 11:26 AM
Maybe the 'christ like figure' topic is worthy of having a new thread created for it. It's not. The whole subject has been debunked countless times.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Wed 05/23/12 12:30 PM Edited by RKISIT on Wed 05/23/12 12:35 PM
lol....i knew you'd pick that one out.Even Odesyss story isn't all true.ok so 8 out of 10 ain't bad your not getting the point the stories of the others are similar to the story of jesus,i knew about the Horus story yeah it's false but my point in posting that is about the others.i'm pointing out that other religions before christianity had similar stories. Pick one, I'll rip it apart. I'm not going to do all of them. so you want to get into a wiki battle to discredit one another.Kind of lame ain't it. So you are going to post a link filled with BS about Jesus just being a copy of 10 figures from mythology and then say it's "kind of lame" for me wanting to show why those mythological stories are nothing like Jesus? That's really screwed up man. You need to learn how to be reasonable. If you already knew that your link was BS, you shouldn't have posted it. Spider i posted to show the similarities i didn't post it to say it was about Jesus,your defending Jesus like you met him for coffee or read a book he ACTUALLY wrote.Dam Spider relax it's just hocus pocus religious crap.You seem to forget your religion isn't the only one that exist.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 05/23/12 12:31 PM
Maybe the 'christ like figure' topic is worthy of having a new thread created for it. It's not. The whole subject has been debunked countless times. Really? Says who? You?

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Wed 05/23/12 12:37 PM
Maybe the 'christ like figure' topic is worthy of having a new thread created for it. It's not. The whole subject has been debunked countless times. Really? Says who? You? Credible historians. Not frauds and hucksters like Gerald Massey and Acharya S. I know you don't believe me. That is perfectly fine. I want to argue about the validity of the Christ myth theory like I want to argue that frozen dog poo is a workable substitute for chocolate ice cream.

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Wed 05/23/12 12:40 PM
Spider i posted to show the similarities i didn't post it to say it was about Jesus,your defending Jesus like you met him for coffee or read a book he ACTUALLY wrote.Dam Spider relax it's just hocus pocus religious crap.You seem to forget your religion isn't the only one that exist. Similarities that don't exist. But then you get all butt hurt and cry that I'm being "kind of lame" when I point out that those similaries don't exist and were invented from thin air in an attempt to discredit Christianity and discourage people from believing. Why do you care if people become or stay Christians? Why do you hate Christianity so much that you would knowingly push historical lies?

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Wed 05/23/12 12:47 PM Edited by RKISIT on Wed 05/23/12 12:52 PM
Spider i posted to show the similarities i didn't post it to say it was about Jesus,your defending Jesus like you met him for coffee or read a book he ACTUALLY wrote.Dam Spider relax it's just hocus pocus religious crap.You seem to forget your religion isn't the only one that exist. Similarities that don't exist. But then you get all butt hurt and cry that I'm being "kind of lame" when I point out that those similaries don't exist and were invented from thin air in an attempt to discredit Christianity and discourage people from believing. Why do you care if people become or stay Christians? Why do you hate Christianity so much that you would knowingly push historical lies? uh i think your religion is one big myth so what's your point,if christians believe in their faith so be it. i'm not trying to convert people.As i stated your religion isn't the only religion and i believe all the other Deity driven religions are myth too.Not just christianity.I have made comments about Islam and Hebrew mythology also.It's all mythology so it all basically is lies.

massagetrade Joined Thu 02/22/07 Posts: 8505	Wed 05/23/12 12:56 PM
Maybe the 'christ like figure' topic is worthy of having a new thread created for it. It's not. The whole subject has been debunked countless times. Fair enough. I really meant "anything other than evolution-related", I just chose that topic because it seemed to motivate a lot of comments. I'm often guilty of going off topic, and normally not a topic-nazi, but I feel like these other pro-Christian, anti-Christian arguments could easily fill pages. I'm curious about people's thoughts on evolution.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Wed 05/23/12 01:26 PM
Maybe the 'christ like figure' topic is worthy of having a new thread created for it. I'll buy that for a dollar.

howzityoume Joined Mon 12/19/11 Posts: 149	Wed 05/23/12 11:23 PM Edited by howzityoume on Wed 05/23/12 11:41 PM
Spider i posted to show the similarities i didn't post it to say it was about Jesus,your defending Jesus like you met him for coffee or read a book he ACTUALLY wrote.Dam Spider relax it's just hocus pocus religious crap.You seem to forget your religion isn't the only one that exist. I'm butting in here because of your rude comment about my religion being hocus pocus religious crap. There's two theories here: 1) a supreme being just always exists 2) Matter continuously spontaneously creates itself, and life also spontaneously creates itself. Both are miraculous and statistically illogical, because where did the supreme being come from? But then how did matter and life form? Whatever you believe is hocus pocus , supernatural, unbelievable, but the fact is that matter exists and life exists, therefore a miracle has occurred that is statistically impossible. The fact that miracles do occur in our lives, that the bible does prophesy the future, that many humans on earth have had some close encounter with the spiritual world starts to push the logic of miraculous beginnings in the favour of a creator. Call it "religious crap", its more logical than "atheistic miracles" which you believe in.

howzityoume Joined Mon 12/19/11 Posts: 149	Wed 05/23/12 11:28 PM
Here are some similar messiah stories that predate Jesus if you think the stories are false about them just check out each one then you'll see that the small paragraphs matches the whole story.Of course you'll claim it false even though they were stories about Jesus like figures just like Jesus was a story. Logically, if the flood story is true, most nations on earth would have some remembrance of it, and there would be myths and stories about it. Most nations do claim to be descended from a certain son of the man on the boat that survived the great flood. Yes the bible came afterwards, so you do make a logical point, nevertheless the worldwide flood myths strengthen the possibility of the truth of the flood story, not weaken it. My bad, I thought you were talking about flood stories, now I see you were referring to Messiah stories. Anyway it is interesting that the biblical flood comes up in ancient tradition across many cultures.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Thu 05/24/12 01:34 AM Edited by RKISIT on Thu 05/24/12 01:54 AM
Spider i posted to show the similarities i didn't post it to say it was about Jesus,your defending Jesus like you met him for coffee or read a book he ACTUALLY wrote.Dam Spider relax it's just hocus pocus religious crap.You seem to forget your religion isn't the only one that exist. I'm butting in here because of your rude comment about my religion being hocus pocus religious crap. There's two theories here: 1) a supreme being just always exists 2) Matter continuously spontaneously creates itself, and life also spontaneously creates itself. Both are miraculous and statistically illogical, because where did the supreme being come from? But then how did matter and life form? Whatever you believe is hocus pocus , supernatural, unbelievable, but the fact is that matter exists and life exists, therefore a miracle has occurred that is statistically impossible. The fact that miracles do occur in our lives, that the bible does prophesy the future, that many humans on earth have had some close encounter with the spiritual world starts to push the logic of miraculous beginnings in the favour of a creator. Call it "religious crap", its more logical than "atheistic miracles" which you believe in. I'm getting ready for work and i think you're full of crap cause you seem to just limit yourself to 1 BS logical answer(in your own mind) and it's a myth.There are more options than just your logical fantasy claim.Theres the infinite universe,theres that matter as a whole has always existed,yes it isn't eternal as individual matter but as a whole it's always existed.You just limit yourself to God and throw science in the mix to a religion that once believed atoms didn't even exist. You use science to TRY and link it to your myth if you manipulate it enough YOU may end up believing it.Remember science has been proving science wrong and physics has been proven physics wrong.Your DNA crap you THINK may only lead to a creator but you do know that everything in DNA is found here right on earth and in the universe.A creator just didn't go "poof there it is" we are a mixture of elements and chemicals not desert sand.You're right where did the creator come from? To believe man came from dust instead of life coming from water isn't a miracle it's stories from dumba s s uneducated Hebrews that stole most of their religion from the babylonians,sumerians..etc.As for your christian beliefs your religion along with islam had a habit of using threats to get peoople to convert.So take your theories and your religion and shove'em.Spider ain't no better he didn't even know Darwin was once a christian.He thinks he's smart cause all his answers are a type and click away.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Thu 05/24/12 02:04 AM
It's just sad to see science that was once labeled evil by christians is now being used to try and prove their myth is an existing myth.

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Thu 05/24/12 02:17 AM
Spider i posted to show the similarities i didn't post it to say it was about Jesus,your defending Jesus like you met him for coffee or read a book he ACTUALLY wrote.Dam Spider relax it's just hocus pocus religious crap.You seem to forget your religion isn't the only one that exist. I'm butting in here because of your rude comment about my religion being hocus pocus religious crap. There's two theories here: 1) a supreme being just always exists 2) Matter continuously spontaneously creates itself, and life also spontaneously creates itself. Both are miraculous and statistically illogical, because where did the supreme being come from? But then how did matter and life form? Whatever you believe is hocus pocus , supernatural, unbelievable, but the fact is that matter exists and life exists, therefore a miracle has occurred that is statistically impossible. The fact that miracles do occur in our lives, that the bible does prophesy the future, that many humans on earth have had some close encounter with the spiritual world starts to push the logic of miraculous beginnings in the favour of a creator. Call it "religious crap", its more logical than "atheistic miracles" which you believe in. I'm getting ready for work and i think you're full of crap cause you seem to just limit yourself to 1 BS logical answer(in your own mind) and it's a myth.There are more options than just your logical fantasy claim.Theres the infinite universe,theres that matter as a whole has always existed,yes it isn't eternal as individual matter but as a whole it's always existed.You just limit yourself to God and throw science in the mix to a religion that once believed atoms didn't even exist. You use science to TRY and link it to your myth if you manipulate it enough YOU may end up believing it.Remember science has been proving science wrong and physics has been proven physics wrong.Your DNA crap you THINK may only lead to a creator but you do know that everything in DNA is found here right on earth and in the universe.A creator just didn't go "poof there it is" we are a mixture of elements and chemicals not desert sand.You're right where did the creator come from? To believe man came from dust instead of life coming from water isn't a miracle it's stories from dumba s s uneducated Hebrews that stole most of their religion from the babylonians,sumerians..etc.As for your christian beliefs your religion along with islam had a habit of using threats to get peoople to convert.So take your theories and your religion and shove'em.Spider ain't no better he didn't even know Darwin was once a christian.He thinks he's smart cause all his answers are a type and click away. Here's something for you to ignore... "You just limit yourself to God and throw science in the mix to a religion that once believed atoms didn't even exist." Hebrews 11:3 King James Version (KJV) 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. (hint: atoms) You seem to be confused about the difference between what people say vs what is written in the Bible. I am well aware of how people have used misinterpretations and/or outright lies to persuade people into believing all kinds of crazy things. But, for a non-Christian to do it, well, that just proves to me that most people who claimed to have read the Bible, really haven't. Do you also realise that the Bible does not specify a world-wide flood? (feel free to claim it was just a joke and run from this challenge)

howzityoume Joined Mon 12/19/11 Posts: 149	Thu 05/24/12 02:22 AM
It's just sad to see science that was once labeled evil by christians is now being used to try and prove their myth is an existing myth. It's even sadder to see that you do not welcome religion's embrace of science which is the very lack that Christians are normally criticised for. Your approach surprises me, it's like your atheistic belief systems are threatened when Christians delve into science and therefore all you can resort to is needless insults. It's an enlightening approach, enlightening to me that is.

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Thu 05/24/12 02:30 AM
It's just sad to see science that was once labeled evil by christians is now being used to try and prove their myth is an existing myth. It's even sadder to see that you do not welcome religion's embrace of science which is the very lack that Christians are normally criticised for. Your approach surprises me, it's like your atheistic belief systems are threatened when Christians delve into science and therefore all you can resort to is needless insults. It's an enlightening approach, enlightening to me that is. Present facts. Get insults in response... Present insults. Get whining little pansies...

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Thu 05/24/12 02:37 AM Edited by RKISIT on Thu 05/24/12 02:38 AM
It's just sad to see science that was once labeled evil by christians is now being used to try and prove their myth is an existing myth. It's even sadder to see that you do not welcome religion's embrace of science which is the very lack that Christians are normally criticised for. Your approach surprises me, it's like your atheistic belief systems are threatened when Christians delve into science and therefore all you can resort to is needless insults. It's an enlightening approach, enlightening to me that is. No science threatens christianity well actually the whole Abrahamic Religion Trilogy thats why it was considered evil.Science has embraced Deity believers but now it has came to a point where they are trying to use it to prove their is NO other option but God did it.Example of this would be you.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Thu 05/24/12 02:45 AM
Spider i posted to show the similarities i didn't post it to say it was about Jesus,your defending Jesus like you met him for coffee or read a book he ACTUALLY wrote.Dam Spider relax it's just hocus pocus religious crap.You seem to forget your religion isn't the only one that exist. I'm butting in here because of your rude comment about my religion being hocus pocus religious crap. There's two theories here: 1) a supreme being just always exists 2) Matter continuously spontaneously creates itself, and life also spontaneously creates itself. Both are miraculous and statistically illogical, because where did the supreme being come from? But then how did matter and life form? Whatever you believe is hocus pocus , supernatural, unbelievable, but the fact is that matter exists and life exists, therefore a miracle has occurred that is statistically impossible. The fact that miracles do occur in our lives, that the bible does prophesy the future, that many humans on earth have had some close encounter with the spiritual world starts to push the logic of miraculous beginnings in the favour of a creator. Call it "religious crap", its more logical than "atheistic miracles" which you believe in. I'm getting ready for work and i think you're full of crap cause you seem to just limit yourself to 1 BS logical answer(in your own mind) and it's a myth.There are more options than just your logical fantasy claim.Theres the infinite universe,theres that matter as a whole has always existed,yes it isn't eternal as individual matter but as a whole it's always existed.You just limit yourself to God and throw science in the mix to a religion that once believed atoms didn't even exist. You use science to TRY and link it to your myth if you manipulate it enough YOU may end up believing it.Remember science has been proving science wrong and physics has been proven physics wrong.Your DNA crap you THINK may only lead to a creator but you do know that everything in DNA is found here right on earth and in the universe.A creator just didn't go "poof there it is" we are a mixture of elements and chemicals not desert sand.You're right where did the creator come from? To believe man came from dust instead of life coming from water isn't a miracle it's stories from dumba s s uneducated Hebrews that stole most of their religion from the babylonians,sumerians..etc.As for your christian beliefs your religion along with islam had a habit of using threats to get peoople to convert.So take your theories and your religion and shove'em.Spider ain't no better he didn't even know Darwin was once a christian.He thinks he's smart cause all his answers are a type and click away. Here's something for you to ignore... "You just limit yourself to God and throw science in the mix to a religion that once believed atoms didn't even exist." Hebrews 11:3 King James Version (KJV) 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. (hint: atoms) You seem to be confused about the difference between what people say vs what is written in the Bible. I am well aware of how people have used misinterpretations and/or outright lies to persuade people into believing all kinds of crazy things. But, for a non-Christian to do it, well, that just proves to me that most people who claimed to have read the Bible, really haven't. Do you also realise that the Bible does not specify a world-wide flood? (feel free to claim it was just a joke and run from this challenge) so you're taking a verse and claiming it to be about atoms,thats what everyone else does.Takes a verse and interprets it their way.You didn't do anything different.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Thu 05/24/12 02:47 AM
Anyways i gotta go to work it was fun...cya.

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Thu 05/24/12 02:52 AM
Spider i posted to show the similarities i didn't post it to say it was about Jesus,your defending Jesus like you met him for coffee or read a book he ACTUALLY wrote.Dam Spider relax it's just hocus pocus religious crap.You seem to forget your religion isn't the only one that exist. I'm butting in here because of your rude comment about my religion being hocus pocus religious crap. There's two theories here: 1) a supreme being just always exists 2) Matter continuously spontaneously creates itself, and life also spontaneously creates itself. Both are miraculous and statistically illogical, because where did the supreme being come from? But then how did matter and life form? Whatever you believe is hocus pocus , supernatural, unbelievable, but the fact is that matter exists and life exists, therefore a miracle has occurred that is statistically impossible. The fact that miracles do occur in our lives, that the bible does prophesy the future, that many humans on earth have had some close encounter with the spiritual world starts to push the logic of miraculous beginnings in the favour of a creator. Call it "religious crap", its more logical than "atheistic miracles" which you believe in. I'm getting ready for work and i think you're full of crap cause you seem to just limit yourself to 1 BS logical answer(in your own mind) and it's a myth.There are more options than just your logical fantasy claim.Theres the infinite universe,theres that matter as a whole has always existed,yes it isn't eternal as individual matter but as a whole it's always existed.You just limit yourself to God and throw science in the mix to a religion that once believed atoms didn't even exist. You use science to TRY and link it to your myth if you manipulate it enough YOU may end up believing it.Remember science has been proving science wrong and physics has been proven physics wrong.Your DNA crap you THINK may only lead to a creator but you do know that everything in DNA is found here right on earth and in the universe.A creator just didn't go "poof there it is" we are a mixture of elements and chemicals not desert sand.You're right where did the creator come from? To believe man came from dust instead of life coming from water isn't a miracle it's stories from dumba s s uneducated Hebrews that stole most of their religion from the babylonians,sumerians..etc.As for your christian beliefs your religion along with islam had a habit of using threats to get peoople to convert.So take your theories and your religion and shove'em.Spider ain't no better he didn't even know Darwin was once a christian.He thinks he's smart cause all his answers are a type and click away. Here's something for you to ignore... "You just limit yourself to God and throw science in the mix to a religion that once believed atoms didn't even exist." Hebrews 11:3 King James Version (KJV) 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. (hint: atoms) You seem to be confused about the difference between what people say vs what is written in the Bible. I am well aware of how people have used misinterpretations and/or outright lies to persuade people into believing all kinds of crazy things. But, for a non-Christian to do it, well, that just proves to me that most people who claimed to have read the Bible, really haven't. Do you also realise that the Bible does not specify a world-wide flood? (feel free to claim it was just a joke and run from this challenge) so you're taking a verse and claiming it to be about atoms,thats what everyone else does.Takes a verse and interprets it their way.You didn't do anything different. Predictable... So, how would you interpret that verse? As something to run from?

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Thu 05/24/12 03:02 AM Edited by RKISIT on Thu 05/24/12 03:06 AM
Do you also realise that the Bible does not specify a world-wide flood? The bible is a book on how you want to interpret it,thats why it's not reliable cause it' leaves people open to interpretation and to make money off of it cause of that. .Dude i don't have no more time for this back and forth **** i think your beliefs are a joke and you think my atheism bluntness is a joke so anyways enjoy your day i really have to go back to work.