Cheaper for whom?

US...

Or the unborn spirit waiting for a Mother to open the Gate into the Green Vally?

So they might grow.

I dont think there is anything that will 'solve' everything when it comes to those issues.

I dont think anyone here wants to see burkas mandated.

I just think that when you speak of mandates out of peoples pockets, they feel a right to speak up about whether they wish to cover that expense for others or not.

I think a system in which those who can afford 1.50 a day to prevent pregnancy(but nt stds, in the case of pills) cover the costs for said pills and those who cant afford that 1.50 have access to programs where they can temporarily receive it

is the most JUST policy we could implement

You those who can afford them pay for them and those can't have access.
Who's to say who can and can't afford them?
Doesn't planned parenthood offer free BC to those who can't afford them?

Actually, all men have to do is walk in a clinic and ask for prophylactics and they are handed to them for free. Women are handed a prescription for the pill no the pills themselves. Men do not have to prove income to ask for the contraception choice and are handed them for free. Women have to prove income to see the doctor and get the prescription that they have to pay for.

yes

as I said, at about 1.500 a day,, MOST people can afford them

this is true, men require no medical check up just to put a raincoat on

and women do require a check up before being prescribed a medication that will be altering their system,,,,,,

The cost dependent upon what type of oral contraception or other contraception the female requires or needs. The type of oral contraception may be different if the female needs the prescription for something other than birth control and can get pricey.

from a woman of (very) modest means:

being an adult, and sexually active doesn`t give anyone the right to ask for free shi*. pardon my language.

i believe in responsibility and self-reliance. wtf happened to that brand of thinking?

LOL, just remembered the saying 'No glove, NO LOVE'

lol,, dont hold back,,,lol

anyway, I think the brand of thinking making this an issue is prevention in the long haul

preventing 'unwanted' children from being conceived and/or born


whether such prevention is a worthy investment for society at large to make it freely available, regardless of income, is what makes it an issue,,,

and the 'equality' issue due to men being able to get their raincoats free at a clinic,,,,,


'if they can do it why cant we,,,' is kind of the equality slogan in modern culture,,,,

right? I totally get that.

I dont know in this day and age, why women continue to lay down with irresponsible or selfish men and take the chance of creating a life with them,,,,,

or why men chose to lay down with women of similar character and take that chance


we take more care with our outward appearances (clothes, hair, etc,,) as people than we do with the issue of human life,,,,its sad really

or how a woman can have MULTIPLE abortions,,,beats me
or a man have multiple children with multiple women and not take care of any of them?

or women continue to lay with such men KNOWING this,,,?

the world is a crazy place.


I was with ONE irresponsible man, because I happened to marry him and thought I was too old to conceive

but I thankfully had/have a support system and a lot of love to give a child and had I not, I would have chosen the adoption system over stopping that beautiful life in its tracks,,,,

I honestly don't understand why women if they are getting BC for sex and cant afford it why they cant go ask for condoms too. They can get those for free.......and yes they should be responsible and pay for their own contraception.....

Actually, there are times when I consider myself even luckier with my way of life than usual - One of the biggest drawbacks (I will never have kids without going far out of my way) is One of the greatest gifts in the other hand.

Yet I have an opinion on that point... Both partners share the fun, but only one partner bears costs and risks? Now c'mon, Nobody in his right mind can think of that as a partnership, can you? And to those that can't afford the pill, it should be given free (but actually, even in the "quasi-socialist, unbearable for Society" geman healthcare system, that is not a fact - health insurance here covers the neccessary checkups, but not the pill itself). As you stated above, each unwanted pregnancy costs the society more than free contraceptives for a whole bunch of women for their whole life, not counting what it costs both mother and child for life - and I'm not talking about money here...

as the partner who could get knocked up...i know that i count on myself more than anyone else for prevention. partnership or no.

a very good post.

What happened to men using condoms as well? Just because a woman is on birth control, it doesn't mean a guy should stop using a condom. Why not expect responsibility from both sides.

And I think it's more of an issue lately of wanting birth control covered by an insurance plan that the employee pays into. When the religious issues get in the way, some want to pick and choose what insurance companies will cover.

All i can say is i believe the one who can get pregnant should take more responsibility than the one who can't.Are you really gonna just say "hey dude you take responsibility"?I really don't understand why a woman would do this when she is the one that gets pregnant.If he doesn't agree it's easier for a woman to run away with her dress up than it is for a man with his pants down.

Unless you're unaware of how things work, you know that it does take two to make a baby. So why shouldn't both take responsibility? Besides, wouldn't preventing STDs be a good idea as well?

in an ideal world, they would BOTH take responsibility

but in this world, We can only control ourself and our actions
and FEW people take realistically the potential of sex to create a life when they lie down together in a world where the sex itself is such a 'necessity',,,,,

so men who do not wish to become fathers should be taking precautions
and women who do not wish to become mothers should be taking precautions as well

I'm quite aware i have a son that lives with me,but i'm talking about the woman should take a little more precaution.