Topic: God's Extra Credit
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Sun 02/26/12 04:45 PM
I was recently engaged in a conversation with a friend.

Amidst it, he mentioned the Great Flood.
Which, of course, is one major thing discussed here a lot.
That and incest, Adam, Eve, and a serpent.

However..

He said something that struck me as both odd and fitting..

What if the early writers..
..gave God extra credit?

I mean, sure we can sit here and say the "entire" Bible is true.
Or you can delve deeper and take Peter Pan's ideal of seeking the original context instead of fifth generation translations; but, all-in-all, what if God had, in actuality, nothing to do with the 'Flood' at all?

Hear me out for a second.

Let's denote some facts as to the major contradiction that most atheists have with the Flood.

1. Only parts of Asia were "affected" by a massive flood.
2. Civilizations on other continents weren't affected either.

So.

Using these simple facts.

What if, by some chance, the Aboriginals (later to be known as the Indians) were given, let's say some sort of sign. Whether it be a Chief having a "vivid" pot dream, or a voice that spoke to them.

For some reason or another; which is yet to be unknown; those people suddenly left Asia moved North, headed across the then small channel between NE Asia and Canada, and spreading across what we now call the Americas.

..but what if that reason, was in actuality a premonition?

Now, the absence, which in those days, might have gone entirely unnoticed by others who resided on the continent during those days; however, when a massive meteor comes crashing into the ocean and the tsunami left in its wake, which did devastate a good portion of Asia, would have almost been seen as an "act of God", because it is, indeed, a rare occurrence.

After said destruction, people would have wondered over to see this chaos, and, ultimately, also noticed that now 50-100,000 "Indians" were now "obliterated" even though, in fact, they had left prior too.

Even if we narrow it down further and say, that this Noah character, had indeed built some massive Arc, because of a similar premonition; it somewhat, with obviously some room to criticize, would in fact fit both scenarios.

Whether the Aboriginals called their God "Jubilee", or they called him "God"; the fact remains, that something told one peoples to leave, and one told this crazy dude to build an "Arc".

Some odd years later, seashells are found on the mountains.
The original Aboriginals have all but "faded" to some cause or what not, but left behind "artwork" etched into rocks that depict a "burning rock plummeting from the sky".

So, what if.. by this, self-created logic...

Noah was, in fact, a little on the crazy side..
..and the entire situation was "falsely" recorded as an act of God?

Granted, you could say God was the cause of said meteor if you wish; it wouldn't change, in retrospect, the overall affected result.

I mean, if you were God, and such an act caused more people to believe in you; why prove them wrong? Why deny it?

Now of course I can't, in all honesty, say this "is" what happened, as it's just a theory I created with a friend's choice wording; but, could it not be possible to all just be a misunderstanding?

After all, God didn't "speak" to everyone, nor did "Jesus"; and even some of them even stated it was only through their "faith" did they actually feel God's "presence"...

So, if such is true, it doesn't; overall; belittle God's power, but it was Man, himself, that gave him just that much more..

..God's extra credit..

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Sun 02/26/12 05:03 PM
personally I think God's hand in creating the universe was somewhat incidental and s/he had and has little to do with the forces of nature and beings that evolved....so I definitely think the flood was an environmental event

but God did not "plan" it and it was not a punishment - it was a force of nature in a universe where God exists as reinventor of our souls and as the goodness between us

I don't think God created the universe like a child with a can of play doh - environmental & physical conditions existed - have existed infinitely across time & space as has this collective conciousness called God

I know

I'm weird
jmho

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Sun 02/26/12 10:57 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Sun 02/26/12 11:49 PM
Cowboy...will close with this cause I have to run :

Pray and ask God to show You that God is ONLY ONE Supreme Being.


GOD IS Only ONE ENTITY.



OTHERWISE, you are believing in more than one God..cause your

believing that God is just some title over "one Family of

entities" ,is not the true definition of God....

again...To you, ONE GOD means just One God as a "FAMILY"........

and that is NOT what the bible teaches us about God at all!!!

Instead...

The bible teaches us thast GOD IS ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING....

PERIOD.

ONE ENTITY!!!

PERIOD.


THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY !!!


PERIOD !!!



Pray..ask God to show you the Truth.....cause again...only God can

do this..not man.

Nite now.


:heart::heart::heart:

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sun 02/26/12 11:02 PM

Cowboy...will close with this cause I have to run :

Pray and ask God to show You that God is ONLY ONE Supreme Being.
Only.



OTHERWISE, you are beliving in more than one God..cause God is

not just a title over ONE family of entities.....no...God is

ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING ONLY.

Pray..ask God to show you the Truth.....cause again...only God can

do this..not man.

Nite now.


:heart::heart::heart:



..what in the Heavens are you talking about? o.O

I'm not believing in any God let alone more than one. :O

..'Twas just a theory I had..

I'm not an Aboriginal (obviously) they'd been dead for, meh, what? 20-30,000 years now? o.O

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Sun 02/26/12 11:22 PM
Edited by Peter_Pan69 on Sun 02/26/12 11:22 PM


Obviously meant for the other thread? Eh?



Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sun 02/26/12 11:23 PM



Obviously meant for the other thread? Eh?





..I'm guessing? o.O

lol

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Sun 02/26/12 11:25 PM




Obviously meant for the other thread? Eh?





..I'm guessing? o.O

lol



Nah, you knew. It's addressed to Cowboy.

I suspect you just wanted to rant a bit.





Eerie, huh?




Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sun 02/26/12 11:29 PM

Nah, you knew. It's addressed to Cowboy.

I suspect you just wanted to rant a bit.





Eerie, huh?






..I know its to Cowboy.. but..

..he's not said a word in here.:O

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Sun 02/26/12 11:36 PM
Oooooooops....wrong thread......laugh :tongue:



flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou


Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Mon 02/27/12 06:35 AM

Oooooooops....wrong thread......laugh :tongue:



flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou




lol

I was wondering..

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Mon 02/27/12 12:26 PM

I think its fair to say that faith, itself, is Gods xtra credit.

I also beleive the bible to be manmade and not Godmade. Grain of salt, knowwhatimean?



I know exactly what you mean.

But it seems most would rather read the Bible with a lb of sugar instead a grain of salt...



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Mon 02/27/12 03:58 PM



I think its fair to say that faith, itself, is Gods xtra credit.

I also beleive the bible to be manmade and not Godmade. Grain of salt, knowwhatimean?



I know exactly what you mean.

But it seems most would rather read the Bible with a lb of sugar instead a grain of salt...




I like that too. Hopefully you mean a spoonful o sugar as it seems youre tottering on gluttony.



I meant what I said and you correctly interpretted it...



Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Tue 02/28/12 08:46 AM
Explains the "hyperactivity" with God, too..

:O

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 02/28/12 11:04 AM

Cowboy...will close with this cause I have to run :

Pray and ask God to show You that God is ONLY ONE Supreme Being.


GOD IS Only ONE ENTITY.



OTHERWISE, you are believing in more than one God..cause your

believing that God is just some title over "one Family of

entities" ,is not the true definition of God....

again...To you, ONE GOD means just One God as a "FAMILY"........

and that is NOT what the bible teaches us about God at all!!!

Instead...

The bible teaches us thast GOD IS ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING....

PERIOD.

ONE ENTITY!!!

PERIOD.


THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY !!!


PERIOD !!!



Pray..ask God to show you the Truth.....cause again...only God can

do this..not man.

Nite now.


:heart::heart::heart:



"God" is not an entity. God is a word used to show authority. Jesus is our God. Jesus referred to his father as HIS God. And we are referred to gods eg., know ye not that ye are gods, I have said ye are gods, ect". But then comes along a verse that says "even the demons know there is one God, and tremble". So how could there be one God if Jesus is our God, his father is his God, and we are gods? Because again "god" is a word used to show authority, it is the ruler. We are the rulers of this planet in comparison to the animals and what not. And is why Jesus, his Father, and the Holy Ghost are ONE God but yet three different beings.

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Tue 02/28/12 11:43 AM
Hey now.

This isn't about your "One Entity" bickering, lol.

Whether he's one, two, five, 12, or 3 entities.

Got nada to do with this topic. :O